Final round cuts (Non-Patriots)

[Snake Eyes]

I'd highly doubt that he'd be willing to be retained on the kind of cheap, backup deal that it'd take for him to stay after next season though. He's obviously going to want to have the opportunity to compete for a starting job somewhere else, as anyone would want in his situation. Just like you, I'd probably rather that he stayed on as a backup past next season, but I think the odds of that happening are pretty slim.

In the meantime, I also think that Belichick should bring in another developmental project to start to prepare for Mallett leaving/being traded, etc. We could use someone else on the PS in my opinion.

The Cowbolys signed my binkie, Alex Tanney, to theirs, now I don't have a backup QB binkie

 

[AzPatsFan]

I'd highly doubt that he'd be willing to be retained on the kind of cheap, backup deal that it'd take for him to stay after next season though. He's obviously going to want to have the opportunity to compete for a starting job somewhere else, as anyone would want in his situation. Just like you, I'd probably rather that he stayed on as a backup past next season, but I think the odds of that happening are pretty slim.

In the meantime, I also think that Belichick should bring in another developmental project to start to prepare for Mallett leaving/being traded, etc. We could use someone else on the PS in my opinion.

So do I. But at least the economics are not impossible any longer. That is why TFB wisely cut his salary for his remaining years to $8-10 million/year. Brady is implicitly saying I want to retire a Patriot. Even if you have to bring someone in to develop alongside of me. I think Tom he is even implicitly admitting that he would accept platooning or backup for a year or two.

Brady does not want to become the itinerant "old guy" having to play his last years elsewhere like Manning, Unitas, Namath, Favre, and Montana had to do.

It also makes it financially possible to attract, or hold, a talented "new guy" paying him up to $12 million a year, while the "new guy" proves himself. The sum of Brady and the new guys compensation would be about $20 million/year total, and not much different than what teams are paying franchise QBs, like Manning, Flacco, Brees, Cutler etc, today.

 

[supafly]

The Cowbolys signed my binkie, Alex Tanney, to theirs, now I don't have a backup QB binkie

Yeah, I'd fully be on board with bringing in some additional competition for the all-important QB2 spot. There's a possibility we can find someone later on in the draft next April and/or through a UDFA.

 

[captain stone]

QB Greg McElroy signed to Bungles' PS. Too bad.

 

[Avenger]

Raiders cut Wilson, too bad they are keeping McGloin, played in BO'B's offense last year

 

[Snake Eyes]

So do I. But at least the economics are not impossible any longer. That is why TFB wisely cut his salary for his remaining years to $8-10 million/year. Brady is implicitly saying I want to retire a Patriot. Even if you have to bring someone in to develop alongside of me. I think Tom he is even implicitly admitting that he would accept platooning or backup for a year or two.

Brady does not want to become the itinerant "old guy" having to play his last years elsewhere like Manning, Unitas, Namath, Favre, and Montana had to do.

It also makes it financially possible to attract, or hold, a talented "new guy" paying him up to $12 million a year, while the "new guy" proves himself. The sum of Brady and the new guys compensation would be about $20 million/year total, and not much different than what teams are paying franchise QBs, like Manning, Flacco, Brees, Cutler etc, today.

How do you know Brady isn't saying "between myself and my wife we have plenty of money so that's really not that important to me, I want to WIN a few more SBs, and am willing to take a pay cut to do it"?

Brady looks great, even at 36 it doesn't look like his game is deteriorating, if BB has good receiving talent for him to work with and protects him with a 1st class O-line (NOT like we have now, I'm talking about the kind of O-line that can neutralize the Lion's D-line) there's no reason he can't play for several more seasons.

Also, your argument is also assuming we've found the next Aaron Rogers to pass the torch to, and while you claim to see improvement in Mallett we haven't seen him carry the team in a game, which Rogers did against Dallas in 07 (he nearly duf them out the hole farve got them into).

Right now the strategy should be to support and build around TFB while developing cheap QB talent with potential, seeing if anything sticks to the wall.

 

[manxman2601]

Da'rick Rogers to the Colts' PS.

https://twitter.com/ChrisBurke_SI/status/374521516378955776

 

[AzPatsFan]

How do you know Brady isn't saying "between myself and my wife we have plenty of money so that's really not that important to me, I want to WIN a few more SBs, and am willing to take a pay cut to do it"?

Brady looks great, even at 36 it doesn't look like his game is deteriorating, if BB has good receiving talent for him to work with and protects him with a 1st class O-line (NOT like we have now, I'm talking about the kind of O-line that can neutralize the Lion's D-line) there's no reason he can't play for several more seasons.

Also, your argument is also assuming we've found the next Aaron Rogers to pass the torch to, and while you claim to see improvement in Mallett we haven't seen him carry the team in a game, which Rogers did against Dallas in 07 (he nearly duf them out the hole farve got them into).

Right now the strategy should be to support and build around TFB while developing cheap QB talent with potential, seeing if anything sticks to the wall.

Isn't that exactly what BB is doing? He took a talented 3rd rounder, who unexpectedly fell to him, is educating him in preseason games, hoping that he is un-needed in a real game, until he has a modicum of NFL training. Mallett was not ready 2 years ago, barely able to encompass the Playbook after the CBA/lockout shortened pre-season. Last season really his first, he had learned the playbook, but was unsure of himself, and it showed. This preseason he has growing confidence and lots of rough edges have been rubbed off, (footwork, reading the D, perfecting the long pass and when to use it, aiming low to prevent the INT, and preserve the health of the receiver, dispalying unexpected rollout mobility; and other rough edges like short dump off accuracy, short passes going TOO low, and 'touch' are are still being worked on, but he is accepting the Coaching and they ARE being worked on.)

BTW, Mallett's play provided the winning points in two of the four preseason games and would have done so more easily if Tebow's running around and throwing picks; and generally being in-effective for major portions of three games didn't require one Tebow score, really a Quinton Sims long TD given that the defender fell down, while trying to tackle Sims.

By comparison, Tebow never led the team on a single "long march" all preseason, even as there were occasional fluke plays leading to scores. Where as Mallett led the team on at least 14 of the "long marches", including missed FGA.

I think you are getting PRECISELY what you asked for.

 

[manxman2601]

BTW, Mallett's play provided the winning points in two of the four preseason games and would have done so more easily if Tebow's running around and throwing picks; and generally being in-effective for major portions of three games didn't require one Tebow score, really a Quinton Sims long TD given that the defender fell down, while trying to tackle Sims.

By comparison, Tebow never led the team on a single "long march" all preseason, even as there were occasional fluke plays leading to scores. Where as Mallett led the team on at least 14 of the "long marches", including missed FGA.

I think you are getting PRECISELY what you asked for.

You're cherry picking there a bit on the pre-season TDs. Mallett badly missed on two (Boyce and Dobson) and on the long Boyce TD got lucky when a defender fell down.

I like Mallett and just think he's in need of reps to become a good QB. I don't think it necessarily helps Mallett's cause to hold him up against Tebow and his pre-season.

 

[ausbacker]

Rams cut suspended starting LB Jo-Lonn Dunbar

Undersized sure but is anyone willing to chance on Dunbar? He could be an obvious upgrade on Spikes in the passing game.

 

[Brady6]

I’m not sure if this has already been discussed, however I was curious what everyone thought of Terry Hawthorne? He had some injury issues in college including a head injury, but he is 6’0, 195 Lbs. and he ran a 4.31 40 at the combine.


Terry Hawthorne | Illinois, CB : 2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

 

[Brady6]

Da'rick Rogers to the Colts' PS.

https://twitter.com/ChrisBurke_SI/status/374521516378955776

Not a good fit for that kid in my opinion, he needs to be with a veteran QB and no nonsense HC. He would have been a decent fit for a team like Denver, or New Orleans. As I said in a previous post I didn’t think we were a good fit because of all the youth he could share his bad habits with.

 

[fumbrunner]

Brian Waters signed with the Cowboys. Too bad he wasn't open to coming back here. Really wanted to stay close to home, sitting out all of last year.

 

[Ring 6]

So do I. But at least the economics are not impossible any longer. That is why TFB wisely cut his salary for his remaining years to $8-10 million/year. Brady is implicitly saying I want to retire a Patriot. Even if you have to bring someone in to develop alongside of me. I think Tom he is even implicitly admitting that he would accept platooning or backup for a year or two.

That is simply a ridiculous statement with no basis in fact that you just made up.

Brady does not want to become the itinerant "old guy" having to play his last years elsewhere like Manning, Unitas, Namath, Favre, and Montana had to do.

How do you know that? I'm pretty certain he would rather start somewhere else than be humiliated by your hair brained platooning scheme.

It also makes it financially possible to attract, or hold, a talented "new guy" paying him up to $12 million a year, while the "new guy" proves himself. The sum of Brady and the new guys compensation would be about $20 million/year total, and not much different than what teams are paying franchise QBs, like Manning, Flacco, Brees, Cutler etc, today.

Brady didn't take less so he could be replaced, he took less so there was more money to spend on the rest of the roster to win SBs.

 

[captain stone]

I’m not sure if this has already been discussed, however I was curious what everyone thought of Terry Hawthorne? He had some injury issues in college including a head injury, but he is 6’0, 195 Lbs. and he ran a 4.31 40 at the combine.


Terry Hawthorne*|*Illinois,*CB*:*2013 NFL Draft Scout Player Profile

He's gotta be better than Justin Green on the PS, or Marquise Cole on the 53.

 

[captain stone]

Brian Waters signed with the Cowboys. Too bad he wasn't open to coming back here. Really wanted to stay close to home, sitting out all of last year.

Wow. I did not know that until just now. Too bad that Bill didn't retain Waters' rights;
he might've been able to squeeze a late-round pick from the Cowchips for him.

 

[ATippett56]

He's gotta be better than Justin Green on the PS, or Marquise Cole on the 53.

Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Strong durability concerns with a history of bumps and bruises, including a serious concussion in 2012.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

Wow. I did not know that until just now. Too bad that Bill didn't retain Waters' rights;
he might've been able to squeeze a late-round pick from the Cowchips for him.

They carried him for an entire offseason. There was no good reason to think he was ever going to unretire, AND it would mean carrying a decent amount of cap room with no guarantee of a return on the investment.

 

[captain stone]

Terry Hawthorne, CB, Illinois, NFL Draft - CBSSports.com - NFLDraftScout.com

Too bad for Hawthorne. I'm surprised then that PitsDirt drafted him in the 5th round.
Is that the same reason for Justin Green's suckage?

 

[captain stone]

They carried him for an entire offseason. There was no good reason to think he was ever going to unretire, AND it would mean carrying a decent amount of cap room with no guarantee of a return on the investment.

I was unaware that if Waters was placed on some sort of Did Not Report list that his salary
was still charged to the cap.