Damar Hamlin Updates

[bormio]

Certainly a worry, but it looks like high quality CPR (strength, frequency of compressions) was performed almost as soon as Hamlin needed it, with restoration of pulse relatively quickly.

It's all rare, but one encouraging comparison would be Fabrice Muamba. He had CPR performed for 78 minutes when he collapsed and 15 shocks from an AED. He of course retired, but the 10 year anniversary came up and he gave an interview last year where he seemed normal.

At this point I'm a little worried he has ARDS given they flipped him prone. I've since heard some facilities are more liberal with the usage of intermittent prone positioning as prophylaxis.

To be fair, that was considered an amazing save, but does show what is possible

 

[PatsFanInVa]

How many times has that happened before? How many players have died?

Compared to:

How many football players have suffered permanent impairment from traumatic brain injuries?

We all tend to overreact to novelty and are really, really bad at assessing risk intuitively.

100% the case that novelty gets the headline. Add politics to novelty, and, this.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Again, the doctors are likely reviewing test results and looking at everything. However, we won't know unless they tell us, so there's no point in speculating beyond what medical experts have said.

I don't have a medical degree, and the ones here who do have already provided some limited insight for those of us obviously who are concerned about him. But I'd prefer to continue to limit the discourse in this thread and leave it for actual updates on his condition.

C'mon, Ian. There are a number of people on the board who have watched ER and House.

 

[mgcolby]

Look while I understand where you are coming from and share your frustration with the disturbing attempts to stifle open discussion, I want to make clear that I absolutely believe that the COVID vaccines have saved millions of at risk lives, particularly amongst the elderly.

That doesn't mean we should blindly accept the pronouncements of the US medical bureaucracy let alone liberal arts majors in schools mandating novel vaccines to young people without regard to risk vs benefit.

And if things have degenerated so much that someone's response is to say don't question the government because they know what's right, I ask you: which government? There is huge variability and instability in COVID vaccine policies for the young amongst governments around the world.

I grew up in the 60's; what happened to Question Authority, my brothers and sisters?

I'm vaccinated. All I have to say to that. And I agree I think it did a good job of saving those most vulnerable.

No disagreement from me.

 

[Noexcusesfornumber5]

How many times has that happened before? How many players have died?

Compared to:

How many football players have suffered permanent impairment from traumatic brain injuries?

We all tend to overreact to novelty and are really, really bad at assessing risk intuitively.

There is no answer at this point. I ask you in general as a football fan. Can we live without football this weekend? Nascar does it very successfully time and time again.

 

[mgcolby]

C'mon, Ian. There are a number of people on the board who have watched ER and House.

You missed the best one, "Slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night"... Slipping dude

 

[Ian]

I grew up in the 60's; what happened to Question Authority, my brothers and sisters?

This is a football board, not a political board. The rabbit hole starts out small and 100% of the time ends up big enough to drive a truck through. And I'm not trying to stifle discussion. This is a Damar Hamlin Updates thread - not a "Why did it happen to Hamlin?" thread. Again, I'm good with a little discourse, but the other discussion has occurred here so many times and I know how it ends. And it's never good.

So I'd rather skip another thread creating animosity over something that completely goes against the purpose of the board. The Mac vs Zappe threads are bad enough

 

[Steve102]

 

[sambam94]

Look while I understand where you are coming from and share your frustration with the disturbing attempts to stifle open discussion, I want to make clear that I absolutely believe that the COVID vaccines have saved millions of at risk lives, particularly amongst the elderly.

That doesn't mean we should blindly accept the pronouncements of the US medical bureaucracy let alone liberal arts majors in schools mandating novel vaccines to young people without regard to risk vs benefit.

And if things have degenerated so much that someone's response is to say don't question the government because they know what's right, I ask you: which government? There is huge variability and instability in COVID vaccine policies for the young amongst governments around the world.

I grew up in the 60's; what happened to Question Authority, my brothers and sisters?

sadly, we have become a polarized society, the libs will die on the "don't question anything about Covid vaccines" hill.
If anyone does, they are a stupid right winger. Funny how the poster that mentioned increased heart conditions since Covid was met with posters who automatically assumed they were blaming vaccines.

 

[Ian]

sadly, we have become a polarized society, the libs will die on the "don't question anything about Covid vaccines" hill.

People can question whatever they want. Again, we're just not going there in this thread.

 

[Guts]

Did we really derail this thread with political bs? ************ guys do better

 

[Ian]

I had read about this, but did they seriously play on?



Obviously that's before my time but not sure if there's anyone in here who knows more about it.

 

[bormio]

I had read about this, but did they seriously play on?



Obviously that's before my time but not sure if there's anyone in here who knows more about it.

Yes they did -but only about 30 seconds left in the game

Nothing will ever top the NFL playing as they laid JFK to rest in Arlington

 

[Ian]

 

[sambam94]

I had read about this, but did they seriously play on?



Obviously that's before my time but not sure if there's anyone in here who knows more about it.

there was 1:03 left in the game and they did finish.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

Jesus, people,

how many times does Ian have to ask you to take the medical science debates SOMEWHERE ELSE, NOT HERE

 

[moosekill]

Everyone is different, lots of people have preexisting conditions that could lead to something like this happening or at least make it more likely. Or it could simply be that one in a billion unlucky incident where everything went wrong and led to this outcome. All we can do is pray for him, and hope he recovers and can do whatever he wants to with his life.

 

[Boomer B]

Came here for the updates, got a Covid discussion.

 

[Steve102]

Did we really derail this thread with political bs? ************ guys do better

 

[Ian]