Boutte available for trade?

[upstater1]

I read exactly what you wrote. You touted Boutte’s success rate and then said it was comparable to Pickens’ success rate. So you were comparing the two WRs.

No that's absolutely NOT what I wrote. This is your problem. You read things incorrectly.

 

[Real fan 02]

It also seems like his team has over-played their hand.

It seems like the rest of the league just isn't buying what they are selling.

And, if we're being honest, the fact we didn't extend him ourselves kind of says a lot.

That's what it's looking like. Not sure who his representatives are.. but as I've said it's gotta be coming from his side letting NFL people know he's seeking a trade.. I believe Vrabel will do him a solid and trey to move him to a team with a QB in the NFC.. because if he doesn't go anywhere that doesn't have a QB he won't be in the league long.

 

[Rob0729]

And he produced in the first 2 playoff games when no one else did.

He went out early against Atlanta, by the way. His lack of production there was a natural consequence of not even playing 3/4s of the game. He also got a concussion against the Ravens. He returned in 2 weeks from the hamstring injury and missed only one game because of the concussion. Given the injuries, he played 13 games overall this year.

He was our downfield threat and if you project his numbers out to a full 17 games from 13, his numbers compare with downfield threat guys like Alec Pierce.

Pierce averages 42 receptions, 18.7 YPC, 50% success rate.

I'll say it again even though I've said it a bazillion times, the downfield guys are targeted less AND they also have a lower success rate.

Alec Pierce just signed a huge contract. His numbers are similar to Boutte's.

Then you should be excited. The Pats are going to get a first or second rounder for Boutte if they trade him.

Again, Giardi said people around the league see Boutte as a fourth WR on a good team with little upside.

And Pierce's numbers are not similar to Boutte. Pierce averaged 21.3 YPC. And had 22.3 YPC the year before. He had almost twice as many yards as Boutte.

Again, if you are right, the Pats are going to get a first or second day pick for Boutte. You are going to be disappointed when they get a conditional sixth though.

 

[Real fan 02]

Agreed. it’s a common thread at every position group.

That's the type of player style that wins in the postseason and Vrabel knows this first hand.. I equate this offseason to that of 2004.. when we reinforced the trenches with clock killin Dillon.. although he was a very accomplished back in Cincinnati he was a bull dozer.. with a real FB now and a blocking TE with an upgraded offensive line the running game should see significant improvements.. those rankings being 4th running the ball last season was a bit deceptive...

 

[PatsFan2]

And he produced in the first 2 playoff games when no one else did.

He went out early against Atlanta, by the way. His lack of production there was a natural consequence of not even playing 3/4s of the game. He also got a concussion against the Ravens. He returned in 2 weeks from the hamstring injury and missed only one game because of the concussion. Given the injuries, he played 13 games overall this year.

He was our downfield threat and if you project his numbers out to a full 17 games from 13, his numbers compare with downfield threat guys like Alec Pierce.

Pierce averages 42 receptions, 18.7 YPC, 50% success rate.

I'll say it again even though I've said it a bazillion times, the downfield guys are targeted less AND they also have a lower success rate.

Alec Pierce just signed a huge contract. His numbers are similar to Boutte's.

Minus that concussion Boutte would have had close to 1000yds last year. People are selling him short aroud here.

 

[Rob0729]

No that's absolutely NOT what I wrote. This is your problem. You read things incorrectly.

Let's look at Boutte's stats last year.

70% success rate with 16 YPC. See anyone else remotely like Boutte in the NFL? Only one other player, Pickens. That's it.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2025/receiving.htm#receiving::rec

I don't know why you'd respond like that.

I wrote that only Pickens has a similar success rate with high YPC. I provided the link that showed it.

I didn't say Boutte is Pickens.

Doubs better be better than Boutte or Eliot Wolf should be out of a job if he isn't.

As for Diggs, his YPC is 12!

That's a far cry from 16.7

I did not compare Pickens to Boutte.

I don't know how many times I have to say it.

I said the only guy in the NFL who has a similar ratio is Pickens.

The fact of the matter is that it is much harder having a huge success rate 20+ yards downfield than on short passes either WR screens or 10 yard dinks from the slot.

This is why normally you'd see a much higher success rate for players like Welker (60%) than Randy Moss (50%)

You repeatedly compare Boutte's success rate to Pickens and then deny it. I don't know if I can help you.

The success rate of Pickens who was targeted 137 times last year. Boutte was 47 times. On no planet was their success rate remotely the same no matter what your stat says.

 

[PatsFan2]

Then you should be excited. The Pats are going to get a first or second rounder for Boutte if they trade him.

Again, Giardi said people around the league see Boutte as a fourth WR on a good team with little upside.

And Pierce's numbers are not similar to Boutte. Pierce averaged 21.3 YPC. And had 22.3 YPC the year before. He had almost twice as many yards as Boutte.

Again, if you are right, the Pats are going to get a first or second day pick for Boutte. You are going to be disappointed when they get a conditional sixth though.

Rob: Boutte played in some $hitty Offenses also had Mac Jones for a QB. Clueless BB shut him down his Rookie year; like we couldn't use him. BB was trying to justify the can't separate Parker Trade.

 

[rkarp1]

Minus that concussion Boutte would have had close to 1000yds last year. People are selling him short aroud here.

there were 20 WR's that reached 1000 yards last season
1 of those 20, had less than 100 targets
that 1 WR, still had twice as many targets as Boutte saw