Black Monday thread: the NFL Coaching Carousel

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Rogers cap hit is a wash.

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Tom Pelissero
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The #Broncos are finalizing a deal with #Packers OC Nathaniel Hackett to make him their new head coach, per sources. Contract talks heated up Wednesday night. The #Jaguars planned to interview Hackett again today. Instead, Denver lands its top choice.

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Denver with another awful hc hire.

 

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Denver with another awful hc hire.

maybe, but it’s getting them Rodgers/adams. Ultimately they will be a better team in 2022

 

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Denver with another awful hc hire.

23rd ranked offense says no.

Plus Rodgers and Adams could follow.

 

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maybe, but it’s getting them Rodgers/adams. Ultimately they will be a better team in 2022

No, someone started a rumor that it’s getting them Rodgers and adams. There is an enormous chasm between “I’m hiring an offensive coordinator to be my head coach” and “we are trading for a top tier qb and signing his wr simply because we hired their oc”

 

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23rd ranked offense says no.

Plus Rodgers and Adams could follow.

How does where there offense is ranked have anything to do with whether the coach they hired is any good?
By that argument all the coaches the jete hired should be in the HOF.

 

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No, someone started a rumor that it’s getting them Rodgers and adams. There is an enormous chasm between “I’m hiring an offensive coordinator to be my head coach” and “we are trading for a top tier qb and signing his wr simply because we hired their oc”

Let's revisit this in a few months once Rodgers and Adams make up their minds as far as where they want to be in 2022. I wouldn't call Hackett an "awful hire" - he's an unknown at this point.

 

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Let's revisit this in a few months once Rodgers and Adams make up their minds as far as where they want to be in 2022. I wouldn't call Hackett an "awful hire" - he's an unknown at this point.

What do you think makes him a good hire? He spend the last 3 years as OC under a HC who runs the offense getting no more out of the offense than it did before he got there and before that coached himself out of jobs in Jacksonville and buffalo.
He’s not an unknown, he’s a guy with a track record, and it’s not impressive.

 

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How does where there offense is ranked have anything to do with whether the coach they hired is any good?
By that argument all the coaches the jete hired should be in the HOF.

Who knew that hiring an offensive coordinator for HC doesn't improve the offense?

What do the Jets have to do with the Broncos? Nothing.

 

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Who knew that hiring an offensive coordinator for HC doesn't improve the offense?

What do the Jets have to do with the Broncos? Nothing.

Why would it? They didn’t hire a GOOD OC they hired a slug.
Every team has an offensive coordinator, it’s not a novel idea.

Sorry, I’ll connect the dots, I know you are slow.
You think that a bad team on offense hiring someone who is an offensive coordinator makes him a good hire. The jete have made many hc hires that came from a side of the ball they sucked on. So your logic says they were good hires.
They were bad on offense and hired Gase, an OC. That didn’t mean he was a good hire, because he wasn’t.

 

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What do you think makes him a good hire? He spend the last 3 years as OC under a HC who runs the offense getting no more out of the offense than it did before he got there and before that coached himself out of jobs in Jacksonville and buffalo.
He’s not an unknown, he’s a guy with a track record, and it’s not impressive.

When all else fails manufacture BS.

The Packers were always top 10 out scoring opponents under Hackett.

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When all else fails manufacture BS.

The Packers were always top 10 out scoring opponents under Hackett.

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They were 15th is scoring the first year.
They were no better in his tenure than they have been since rodgers has been there.

 

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Why would it? They didn’t hire a GOOD OC they hired a slug.
Every team has an offensive coordinator, it’s not a novel idea.

Sorry, I’ll connect the dots, I know you are slow.
You think that a bad team on offense hiring someone who is an offensive coordinator makes him a good hire. The jete have made many hc hires that came from a side of the ball they sucked on. So your logic says they were good hires.
They were bad on offense and hired Gase, an OC. That didn’t mean he was a good hire, because he wasn’t.

Why would Denver want a better offense than 23rd with Mahomes and Herbert in their division?

They should hire you before making this huge mistake. NFL teams are missing out on your genius football knowledge.

 

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What do you think makes him a good hire? He spend the last 3 years as OC under a HC who runs the offense getting no more out of the offense than it did before he got there and before that coached himself out of jobs in Jacksonville and buffalo.
He’s not an unknown, he’s a guy with a track record, and it’s not impressive.

I didn't say he WAS good hire. Yes, Lafleur runs the offense in GB. Therefore, it's difficult to tell whether or not the offense's failings are strictly on the HC or OC. The whole purpose of getting Hackett is to lure Rodgers and Adams. That alone would make them an AFC powerhouse. And they can win a super bowl with a mediocre HC just like Denver did in 2015.

 

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They were 15th is scoring the first year.
They were no better in his tenure than they have been since rodgers has been there.

The Packers were 13 - 3.

Good call.

 

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Why would Denver want a better offense than 23rd with Mahomes and Herbert in their division?

They should hire you before making this huge mistake. NFL teams are missing out on your genius football knowledge.

No they should hire a good coach. They didn’t.

 

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The Packers were 13 - 3.

Good call.

Thanks, I see now you just don’t get it.

 

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I didn't say he WAS good hire. Yes, Lafleur runs the offense in GB. Therefore, it's difficult to tell whether or not the offense's failings are strictly on the HC or OC. The whole purpose of getting Hackett is to lure Rodgers and Adams. That alone would make them an AFC powerhouse. And they can win a super bowl with a mediocre HC just like Denver did in 2015.

Who said the sole purpose was to get Rodgers?
You are more likely to attract the player you want by hiring a good coach instead of a jag.

 

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Why would Denver want a better offense than 23rd with Mahomes and Herbert in their division?

They should hire you before making this huge mistake. NFL teams are missing out on your genius football knowledge.

I’m sure they would love to have a better offense. They need one. That is exactly why hiring this guy is a bad hire.

 

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