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BGC 2020 TE/PTP Thread

Discussion in 'Patriots Draft Talk' started by BaconGrundleCandy, Sep 14, 2019.

  1. scott99

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    I think it would be smart to double dip at TE, one VERY EARLY, no later than the first 3 rounds, and one late, maybe we find a Kittle late.

    That being said, I thought that at WR last year, and we didn't double dip (BIG mistake).

    I would say, the quality at TE is probably 10 deep.
     
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    This offense has a hard time developing rookies at the skill positions (Gronk and Hernandez notwithstanding) to be major contributors in year one. That’s just life in the E-P. It’s a hard offense and Brady is a demanding QB. I’d rather them draft a TE in the first two days and sign Henry as a FA. Kmet, if he’s still available on day two or Harrison Bryant later.
     
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    That should've been the plan last year too, especially if Gronkowski had kept his word and informed the FO about his plans "in a couple of weeks" after the super bowl like he said he was going to do...
     
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    He should have but the team should have also planned better, too.
     
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    Agree !
    One who can Block out of the later rounds would be nice and a pass catching in the third
    The FA‘s are probably demanding high salarys..
    Maybe a vet or oj howard or the guy from the Browns..
     
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    TE BRYCEN HOPKINS, PURDUE

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    Unquestionably.
     
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    I remember asking you why you thought that and got nothing?
     
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    Substandard pass sets.
     
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    How is it that you can watch a prospect, question a position change and only come up with "Substandard pass sets". No insight or explanation. Not trying to be a DH but c'mon man.
     
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    Maybe because MB can use his Body in the IOL better against big DT than fast OLB. I read that he shows quick feets for his Size and Weight, but maybe in the IOL he could be a tremendous run blocker and better pass protector because he is not always 1 vs. 1. (just guessing)
     
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    FAU TE Harrison Bryant

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    Harrison Bryant is TE1 for me in this draft and it's not close.

    It's just like last year with Irv Smith, people are underestimating blocking, catching and route-running when looking at prospects trying to find an all-around inline TE when they are just as scarce as trying to find a true low-post center in the NBA.

    You'll have to concede offensive production for blocking or vice versa with the diminishing use of TE in the college ranks.

    Crowning the NFL's best tight end | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

    With the rules in the NFL slanted with favoring the offense, it's better to find a TE who can contribute offensively and be a competent blocker, a plus if they're good/great at doing it.

    Look at Ravens (Hayden Hurst-1st rd/Mark Andrews-3rd rd) and Eagles (Zach Erzt-2nd rd/Dallas Goedert-2nd rd) as teams with multiple TEs.

    Hayden Hurst

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    Mark Andrews

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    Zach Erzt

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    Dallas Goedert

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    Even though Andrews and Erzt do not fit the traditional all-around mold of the Y TE, either because of size or blocking skills, they are considered as more valuable to their teams' TE corps because of their offensive contributions.

    NFL TE-Receiving Yards

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    Just draft the most balanced (catching/blocking/route-running) TE prospect as possible with the best value when using draft capital.

    And Harrison Bryant fits these traits the best of all the TEs in the draft, especially when our TEs cupboard, H or Y type, is totally empty.
     
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