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    2020 Tight End Prospects- Targeting the Tight Ends

    2020 Tight End Prospects


    I feel most of the top TEs in the current NFL landscape do not fit the ideal image of a traditional Y-type (in-line blocker), but more of the F/H-type (move TE) even if they are the physical size of a Y-Type (Zach Ertz, Mark Andrews, Tyler Higbee).


    Zach Ertz

    NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Zach Ertz

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    The skill level of their football traits/techniques (catching/route-running/blocking) is more important than their athletic traits (size/height/strength/40-yds speeds) and contributes to higher overall offensive production and value for a team.

    This paradigm shift is why Harrison Bryant is TE1 in the draft, imo, because his draft profile is more aligned with that of most of the top NFL TEs, and offer a safer transition into the NFL than the other TE prospects.


    Harrison Bryant

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    2020 NFL Draft: Daniel Jeremiah identifies team fits for prospects
     
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    there is a lot of helium on trautman, especially considering he can’t block!

    I have kmet with a second round grade, if he runs well. Unfortunately, we traded our second round pick for a wooden Indian!

    if Bryant runs a 4.6 or better, he becomes immediately viable in our offense, especially considering how many deep seam routes our tight ends run.
     
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    I like Trautman and feel his blocking can improve. He's raw because he played in the Pioneer Football League, an FCS conference that doesn't offer football scholarships and the competition is closer to NCAA Division II level.

    Really, Trautman, Kmet, AsiAsi and Hopkins are all probably Day 2/3 TE prospects that I'm okay with drafting because they offer potential offensive talents.

    IMO, they're harder to project a smooth transition to the NFL TE position which is why I prefer Harrison Bryant over them.
     
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    Hunter Bryant Size matches up with AH... Double Dip TE please
     
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    Harrison Bryant's < 31" arms (at 6'4-3/4) is disappointing.
     
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    Tape doesn’t lie.. Hunter Bryant is still the best move TE in this class. Albert O that 40 time just doesn’t show up on tape
     
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    it does when looking at his 2018 tape. But in 2019 he suffered from bad qb play.
     
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    Agreed, personally I’d rather them swing for the fences with Trautman who had a great week at the senior bowl, but would definitely be ok with Bryant who is more polished.
     
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    Thaddeus Moss has a fractured foot that requires surgery, didn’t work out and dude looked like he was gonna run a 5.40 anyway:p

    7th rounder?
     
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    trautman’s 3 cone time was off the charts.

    however going from division 3 to the nfl means he might be injured a lot early in his career due to the physicality of the nfl players.
     
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    Yeah, he wasn't going to run fast, but his blocking and hands are good. His injury will drop him some in the draft, though, he still could contribute to our bad TE group if we pick him.
     
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    Trautman moved well in drills. Great on the sled. Wish he did a lil better in the 40 but he had a really nice combine. 3C was :eek:
     
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    Right, was expecting a better 40 for sure. Both Bryants ran about where they were expected to which was 4.70ish which is good for their size.
     
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    Albert O probably secured a Day 2 draft position today with his 40-yards time. He does have good hands, even though his route-running and blocking is inconsistent, and that could be enough if a team can envision a way to use him effectively with their offense.

    Cole Kmet did good overall today, also, especially at his weight. Harrison Bryant didn't test high athletically but did well in the field drills which matches what he displayed on his tape. Hunter Bryant did well in the field too. Devin Asiasi still looks like an intriguing inline prospect who I hope will be there in the 3/4 round.

    C.J. O'Grady also didn't test well athletically today. However, he did pretty well in the field drills, just as he did on his tape. He could be worth a flyer in the later rounds if his off the fields issues checkout and are okay.

    Some of the top TEs don't test well athletically in individual components (<4.6 40-yds dash, vertical/broad jump or 3-cone) when you look at their draft profile but are well-rounded football players and very productive in the league.

    *C.J. O'Grady did test okay in the vertical/broad jump and not too bad in the 3-cone.

    *Dalton Keene and Josiah Deguara tested well athletically overall and probably increased their draft stock.

    Josiah Deguara is being pretty underrated with how well he looks on film.
     
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