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Are we ruling out a double dip at the position? Any late round lottery type? Any great pure blocking TEs that may be late round / UDFA potentials?

Based on my very inexperienced review/research it seems like all the top 10 TEs are great at one and meh at the other (blocking / receiving).

Kmet looks great but I get the Troy Niklas vibe from him.

Albert O looks like Ebron 2.0

Again I could be 100% wrong..very early on research.

I think it would be smart to double dip at TE, one VERY EARLY, no later than the first 3 rounds, and one late, maybe we find a Kittle late.

That being said, I thought that at WR last year, and we didn't double dip (BIG mistake).

I would say, the quality at TE is probably 10 deep.
 
I think it would be smart to double dip at TE, one VERY EARLY, no later than the first 3 rounds, and one late, maybe we find a Kittle late.

That being said, I thought that at WR last year, and we didn't double dip (BIG mistake).

I would say, the quality at TE is probably 10 deep.
This offense has a hard time developing rookies at the skill positions (Gronk and Hernandez notwithstanding) to be major contributors in year one. That’s just life in the E-P. It’s a hard offense and Brady is a demanding QB. I’d rather them draft a TE in the first two days and sign Henry as a FA. Kmet, if he’s still available on day two or Harrison Bryant later.
 
This offense has a hard time developing rookies at the skill positions (Gronk and Hernandez notwithstanding) to be major contributors in year one. That’s just life in the E-P. It’s a hard offense and Brady is a demanding QB. I’d rather them draft a TE in the first two days and sign Henry as a FA. Kmet, if he’s still available on day two or Harrison Bryant later.
That should've been the plan last year too, especially if Gronkowski had kept his word and informed the FO about his plans "in a couple of weeks" after the super bowl like he said he was going to do...
 
That should've been the plan last year too, especially if Gronkowski had kept his word and informed the FO about his plans "in a couple of weeks" after the super bowl like he said he was going to do...
He should have but the team should have also planned better, too.
 
I think it would be smart to double dip at TE, one VERY EARLY, no later than the first 3 rounds, and one late, maybe we find a Kittle late.

That being said, I thought that at WR last year, and we didn't double dip (BIG mistake).

I would say, the quality at TE is probably 10 deep.

Agree !
One who can Block out of the later rounds would be nice and a pass catching in the third
The FA‘s are probably demanding high salarys..
Maybe a vet or oj howard or the guy from the Browns..
 
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TE BRYCEN HOPKINS, PURDUE

Buyer beware of: Drops

They’re bad, and it’s not like it flared up in one year or one game. Hopkins' hands have been consistently bad throughout his entire career, as you can see below.

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Of the tight ends who were targeted at least 65 times this past season, none dropped over 10% of their catchable passes. There’s really not much more to add here — it’s now going to be up to personal preference. Do you want a guy who will get open consistently but will have a ton of drops, or a more reliable tight end who might not separate well?

Buyer beware on these 2020 NFL Draft prospects | College Football and NFL Draft | PFF
 
I said it a while back and I will say it again, Becton will be a better guard in the pros than a tackle.
I remember asking you why you thought that and got nothing?
 
Substandard pass sets.
How is it that you can watch a prospect, question a position change and only come up with "Substandard pass sets". No insight or explanation. Not trying to be a DH but c'mon man.
 
Maybe because MB can use his Body in the IOL better against big DT than fast OLB. I read that he shows quick feets for his Size and Weight, but maybe in the IOL he could be a tremendous run blocker and better pass protector because he is not always 1 vs. 1. (just guessing)
 
FAU TE Harrison Bryant

1. HARRISON BRYANT, FAU (AGE: 21.8)
Where he ranks: According to our model, Bryant is the best small-school tight end prospect to come out since at least 2015. He ranks just slightly ahead of Dallas Goedert in that regard.

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Why he ranks here: The single most predictive metric for a tight end prospect is yards per route run average, and Bryant easily dominated that statistic. His 2019 season (3.04 yards per route run) was the best we've ever recorded during the PFF College era, and his 2018 season (2.62) ranked sixth-best. Even though his age-19 season in 2017 failed to qualify (only 151 routes run), it was equally as impressive (2.74). Our second-most predictive metric is receiving yards in a tight end's final season, and Bryant's 1,004 yards last season led the class.

Ranking the top four rookie tight ends for dynasty leagues | College Football and NFL Draft | PFF (paywall)
 
I'd be surprised if him & Trautman aren't top 2-4 after I'm done.

Harrison Bryant is TE1 for me in this draft and it's not close.

It's just like last year with Irv Smith, people are underestimating blocking, catching and route-running when looking at prospects trying to find an all-around inline TE when they are just as scarce as trying to find a true low-post center in the NBA.

You'll have to concede offensive production for blocking or vice versa with the diminishing use of TE in the college ranks.

While many have focused on how difficult it’s been for NFL franchises to scout the receiver position in recent years, another position has seen a similarly dismal track record over the past decade. There simply aren’t a lot of true difference-makers as the tight end position in today’s NFL, even though teams consistently go searching for them early in the draft. Here are all the first-round picks at the position over the past decade.

Crowning the NFL's best tight end | NFL News, Rankings and Statistics | PFF

With the rules in the NFL slanted with favoring the offense, it's better to find a TE who can contribute offensively and be a competent blocker, a plus if they're good/great at doing it.

Look at Ravens (Hayden Hurst-1st rd/Mark Andrews-3rd rd) and Eagles (Zach Erzt-2nd rd/Dallas Goedert-2nd rd) as teams with multiple TEs.

Hayden Hurst

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Mark Andrews

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Zach Erzt

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Dallas Goedert

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Even though Andrews and Erzt do not fit the traditional all-around mold of the Y TE, either because of size or blocking skills, they are considered as more valuable to their teams' TE corps because of their offensive contributions.

NFL TE-Receiving Yards

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Just draft the most balanced (catching/blocking/route-running) TE prospect as possible with the best value when using draft capital.

And Harrison Bryant fits these traits the best of all the TEs in the draft, especially when our TEs cupboard, H or Y type, is totally empty.
 
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