Discussion in 'NFL Football Forum' started by stevedogc, Nov 26, 2018.
Your post doesn't make sense
I don't think Rodgers is competitive with Manning. For all of Manning's short comings at the end of games they were typically in the playoffs. But Manning could get it done in the 4th quarter during the regular season. Rodgers can't even do that. Not to mention when Rodgers has a bad defense he has losing seasons, with ironically the 15-1 year being the lone exception. Manning had 5 or 6 winning seasons with his defense ranked low 20's or worse.
I just don't put Rodgers in that category. Fun to watch, great arm but turtles in the biggest of moments in not so big games..
Currently this year the Packers defense is ranked 16th in points and 12th in yards. Rodgers also currently has what would be a record setting 20-1 TD-int ratio.
How are they 4-6-1?
Rodgers is not better than Brady. Among other reasons, I don't expect Rodgers to be playing football at Brady's level at age 41. Or at all for that matter. He has taken quite a few serious injuries in recent years and QB's don't age well playing the game like he does.
2015: Packers 27 Seahawks 17 (10-6)
2016 Playoffs: Packers 34 Cowboys 31 (13-3)
Both of these were 4th quarter comebacks (albeit it as small as can be, one point comebacks) against teams with a winning record by Rodgers, so this stat is false.
The ball-washing of Rodgers is insufferable and the fact that those two games are his only comebacks of such nature indeed emphasize he's not as clutch as people think but there's no need to spread fake stats to prove that point.
Brady is clearly better, more clutch, etc. than Rodgers, let's always remember to use the mountain of real stats to make this case instead of needing fake ones.
No. The stat says trailing BY MORE THAN 1
Reading is fundamental
The original post of this thread, which I am replying to.
Reading is fundamental
There is a link to the research.
That link is not in the original post.
The majority of people in the thread are replying the original post, which is incorrect.
I was taking about the fact not whether a poster misquoted it.
You said "reading is fundamental" for a fact that was not posted anywhere in the original post to be read which is completely illogical.
Not going to waste more posts to explain this to you.
You said the stat was made up. It’s not.
Sorry you don’t have a sense of humor.
The original post is a made up stat. My post is a response to that.
The end. (OK, I wasted one more post on this)
The real stat is real. The end.
He's actually 1-22 against winning teams when trailing at the start of the 4th quarter. They talked about it this morning. However, this is a glaring stat that continues to be ignored.
I disagree. Aside from Rodgers first few years when he had Jennings, Nelson and Finley in their prime, the Packers always had some glaring weakness they couldn't overcome but the media chose to ignore. Finley deteriorated and had to retire. Running game was very inconsistent and then became non existent. The defense has always been terrible.
But I do agree about the GM. Ted Thompson was the most overrated GM in the league and was running it into the ground like Balke in SF. Coaching is debatable from week to week as Rodgers has missed quite a bit of throws when the game is on the line that has nothing to do with McCarthy.
Green Bay needs a real owner and restore order. I don't feel bad at all for Aaron Rodgers because he knew what he was getting into when he signed that extension.
Joker's forum portfolio is full of classics, but goddamn this post is pure poetry!
Seattle's record was 0-1 at the time of that comeback in 2015.
And the only comeback Rodgers had against a winning team was not in 2016, that was a blowout win with a near comeback by Dallas. His only true 4QC against a winner was the Dez Bryant non-catch game in 2014.
At the time that stat was originally posted it was in an Atlanta Falcons forum during their SB year, and the number then was 0-35 in games against winning teams.
I think they might have been talking about regular season only, so I decided to check the info in pro football reference. What I found was the list of all of Rodgers' 4QC's, which right now stands at 13 (that ties him with Ryan Tannehill). Here they are;
Aaron Rodgers's Career 4th quarter comebacks and game-winning drives | Pro-Football-Reference.com
One other thing to consider is that Rodgers also had many failed comebacks against teams without winning records. God only knows how many times he failed to do that.
I don’t think anyone was wondering about those three.
I wouldn’t think of putting Roethlisberger is in the same class here as Brees or Rodgers, though I agree he is right below them. Warner deserves strong consideration if McNabb, Luck, Ryan, and Newton made the cut.
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