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Patriots Pregame Thread 2025 Patriots @ Cryami - Early thoughts

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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Consistently losing to bad teams is the surest sign that you’re a bad team.

What set 2023 on apart from the previous, post Brady years is that we started regularly losing to bad teams. Even in 2022, we won the games we were supposed to win.

The Raiders might not be bad, but they’re not likely good. The Dolphins are a bad team.

As much as were expected to lose in Florida in September, this game is a must win for this fan. I want to wash off the bad team stink so bad.
 
Miami fans are looking at this as a must-win game; they play at Buffalo the following Thursday.

The Dolphins open the week as 1½-point favorites.




Nothing is decided after one week of an NFL season. Teams can have a bad game, and still have four months to rebound from it. We overreact because it's the only new data point we have after an offseason of anticipation.​
But in the Miami Dolphins' case, Sunday didn't seem like a one-off. They just might be bad this season.​
No team looked worse than the Dolphins in the first set of games on Sunday. The were absolutely outclassed by an Indianapolis Colts team that practically nobody is picking to make the playoffs. The Colts got an easy 33-8 win, shutting out the Dolphins until the final minutes and gaining 418 yards of offense against a thin Miami defense.​
If the Dolphins looked that bad against the Colts, is it going to get much better?​





The Miami Dolphins next game is against the New England Patriots at Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens. They must win against the Patriots, and if they lose that game and start with two losses on the year, Mike McDaniel’s seat will almost certainly get extremely hot.​
But if they win then they may still have a chance to do something this season and it is a short week as well as the Miami Dolphins will travel to Buffalo week three on Thursday Night Football to play the Bills in what will be a “legacy game” for Tua Tagovailoa who is coming off a two interception game and a lost fumble to the Colts so you know he wants to do well against the Patriots and Bills. That is how I feel about the Dolphins’ week two game being a must-win for the team.​


Tua Tagovailoa had a horrible day for the Dolphins — more on that later — but what made Tagovailoa’s struggles even more frustrating was the fact that former New York Giants quarterback Daniel Jones was making Miami’s defense look like Swiss cheese all afternoon.​
Jones finished the day with 22 completions on 29 attempts for 272 yards and a touchdown throw. He had a 115.9 passer rating. Honestly, Jones’ numbers were good, but they would have likely been even better had the game been a close one, as Indianapolis played a conservative game in the second-half after taking a 20-0 lead into halftime.​
The Dolphins tried to cobble together a hodge-podge group of cornerbacks — signing veterans Jack Jones and Rasul Douglas late in training camp. Well, it was too-little, too-late for Miami and their total lack of urgency at the position may be the coup de grâce on the 2025 season if they continue to play like they played against the Colts for the rest of the year.​


It is my belief that Mike McDaniel no longer wants to coach the Miami Dolphins.​
A leader exhibits a strong sense of accountability. A leader demonstrates resilience in the face of adversity. A leader fosters a positive work environment for those around him.​
A head coach in the National Football League is supposed to be a leader. A head coach in the National Football League is not supposed to swiftly and forcefully throw his players under the bus following an embarrassing loss — yet that is exactly what Miami Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel did following his team’s 33-8 defeat at the hands of the Indianapolis Colts during Week One of the 2025 NFL season.​
McDaniel’s opening remarks while speaking with the media during his postgame press conference on Sunday exemplify why — in my opinion — Miami’s head coach would rather attempt to preserve his reputation in order to get another job in the NFL after he is inevitably canned as the Dolphins head-man-in-charge than take accountability for his part in the embarrassment encountered by his club following Sunday’s drubbing.​
I think there was a lot of preparation for Week One and I don’t think it looked it. What does that mean? It means that guys let Week One, and the bells and whistles of the season starting, get the best of them. My job is to prevent that.”​
Shocking…​
McDaniel continued, “I did my best. Not good enough.”​



 
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I will not wager fake coins on the Patriots
I will not wager fake coins on the Patriots
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Run the ****ing ball, keep the fish defense honest. Yesterday mcdaniels ran 18 times and threw 46. i think he believes he still has Tom Fing Brady as his qb, not a kid that has play a total of 14 games in the nfl
 
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I see another loss for us. Playing down in Miami has never been a great spot for us. They got their asses kicked and will have every motivation to get their **** together. Will we?

Maye clearly isn’t ready to shoulder the load so it’s a reliance on our defense to force some turnovers.
 
Run the ****ing ball, keep the fish defense honest. Yesterday mcdaniels ran 18 times and threw 46. i think he believes he still has Tom F in Brady as his qb, not a kid that has play a total of 14 games in the nfl
Actually 14 called run plays. The other 4 were Maye slides to nowhere. Dropped back 57 times to pass. That's a tick more than 80% pass. That's insanity.
 
As much as we see this as a get right game for us, guaranteed they view it exactly the same for them.
Tua looks like Tom Brady every time he plays us, but......I'm thinking that was against the BB style Defenses who rarely blitzed, so he was always way too comfortable against us, we haven't been a good 4 man rush team in a very, very long time. I can only imagine we will blitz him more than BB did. One worry however is how badly we got burned on the blitz yesterday, so perhaps Vrabs will be gunshy in that regard.
I want a win, but until I see us actually win a game in Miami, I don't think I can pick us to win a game in Miami.
 
As bad as Miami looked unfortunately Pats aren’t a team to take advantage. Plus we all know how it goes down there.
 
I see another loss for us. Playing down in Miami has never been a great spot for us. They got their asses kicked and will have every motivation to get their **** together. Will we?

Maye clearly isn’t ready to shoulder the load so it’s a reliance on our defense to force some turnovers.
They got their asses kicked because they were absolutely wretched.
 
Nothing from Sunday or the preseason should lead anyone to think the Patriots will go down to Miami and win, especially if fragile Gonzalez doesn't take off the skirt. No Gonzalez for the 17th time in his short career - Tua throws for around 300 and Miami wins by 7-10 points
 
Run the ****ing ball, keep the fish defense honest. Yesterday mcdaniels ran 18 times and threw 46. i think he believes he still has Tom F in Brady as his qb, not a kid that has play a total of 14 games in the nfl

Right...when slow poke Stevenson running 1.7 yards a carry is gonna win us vs unleashing our gunslinger QB

I think we will make it more competitive but unfortunately start 0-2 due to our luck down there
 
Nothing from Sunday or the preseason should lead anyone to think the Patriots will go down to Miami and win, especially if fragile Gonzalez doesn't take off the skirt. No Gonzalez for the 17th time in his short career - Tua throws for around 300 and Miami wins by 7-10 points
Tua kind of sucks. But he doesn’t suck against us. We routinely make him look like a superstar.
 
Really hope Waddle is is 50/50 if Gonzo ain't going kinda evens things out.
 
Should we get some other running back or add additional support in form of a full ack for rham .

I want them to babysit Maye and not allow him more than 25 passes a game. I just feel this season is a wash too to get maye to focus on fundamentals , mechanics and. Get the feel of the game. But too much losing will also develop bad habits. Not sure how to get out of this .

Looks like if you have a good developmental prospect do not start him for first 2-3 years in which case we should not draft such players at number 3.

Looks like 2024 draft is an all-time bust..
 
Actually 14 called run plays. The other 4 were Maye slides to nowhere. Dropped back 57 times to pass. That's a tick more than 80% pass. That's insanity.

It seemed to me that the Raiders defense was favoring the run. Very disappointed that we couldn't get anything going with Wilson and Campbell on the left side.

No effective play action.
 
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