2019 OTAs/Minicamp Thread

[Uptown]

Didn’t know where to post this.

 

[captain stone]

Offensive tackle is currently the Pats greatest need. Where is the parade of UDFAs and veterans trying out?

Good question. That's certainly what I would be doing if I had such a gaping hole in my depth chart, at whatever position it might be.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Slightly OT:

Damn... I feel terrible for the Foles family. God bless.

Jaguars' Nick Foles missing OTAs for personal reasons

'We're Here For Him': Nick Foles Skipping Jaguars' OTAs For 'Personal Reason'

Update:

Nick Foles' Wife Tori Announces She Had Miscarriage

Awful.

@captain stone I think you hit the "funny" emoji by mistake.

 

[zydecochris]

That's the hope...but that's all it is right now.


Fixed it for you.


Here's one list of free agent offensive linemen:

2019 NFL Free Agents Tracker

Not really much at all available at OT, even fewer with LT experience. Pats would probably be better-served either trading for one or waiting until Cut-Down Day.

There really isn’t much there, which explains perhaps the giant contract Brown got from Oakland. For LT, apart from Kali (widely regarded as an overpriced bust) one could argue that among the slim pickings, Veldheer (who retired from the Pats) Fleming and Waddle (both former Pats) are arguably the most promising. Slim pickings indeed.

 

[luuked]

Good question. That's certainly what I would be doing if I had such a gaping hole in my depth chart, at whatever position it might be.

Every year we hear how they are poorly managed in terms of roster, how many stiffs BB and Caserio drafted/signed and whatnot. And yet.. we have been to how many AFCCG in a row ? Through seasons of major injuries and also through years with remarkable health.

In other words, I am sure the people in charge know what they are doing. Does it suck that Veldheer retired ? Sure. Will this derail the train ? lol

 

[captain stone]

Awful.

@captain stone I think you hit the "funny" emoji by mistake.

Why isn't he there? That link provided no explanation.

 

[captain stone]

...Does it suck that Veldheer retired ? Sure. Will this derail the train ? lol

If All of Cannon, Wynn & Cachoo are healthy, then the train will not be derailed...

If they're not (and their lengthy injury histories are not encouraging), then I wouldn't be LOLing so soon.

 

[AlexB]

Why isn't he there? That link provided no explanation.

Emotional Foles caring for wife after miscarriage

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Why isn't he there? That link provided no explanation.

His wife had a miscarriage. May want to re-read the post; perhaps the link was edited back in.

 

[Nunchucks]

Every year we hear how they are poorly managed in terms of roster, how many stiffs BB and Caserio drafted/signed and whatnot. And yet.. we have been to how many AFCCG in a row ? Through seasons of major injuries and also through years with remarkable health.

In other words, I am sure the people in charge know what they are doing. Does it suck that Veldheer retired ? Sure. Will this derail the train ? lol

Coaching and the greatest QB of all time. Please stop trying to tell us that the Patriots are so much better at managing the roster. They do "okay" but with Brady and Belichick, ****ty roster moves can be overcome over and over again. We continue to see this happen.

 

[TomPatriot]

Every year we hear how they are poorly managed in terms of roster, how many stiffs BB and Caserio drafted/signed and whatnot. And yet.. we have been to how many AFCCG in a row ? Through seasons of major injuries and also through years with remarkable health.

In other words, I am sure the people in charge know what they are doing. Does it suck that Veldheer retired ? Sure. Will this derail the train ? lol

Didn't you get the Felger/Borges/Other Football Idiot text? It's all Brady.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Why isn't he there? That link provided no explanation.

Foles' wife had a miscarriage.

 

[captain stone]

Emotional Foles caring for wife after miscarriage

His wife had a miscarriage. May want to re-read the post; perhaps the link was edited back in.

Duly noted; emoji now changed to Sad.

 

[DaBruinz]

Thomas was 33 5/8 which is more than adequate

Not sure where it showed 33 5/8, but Thomas was 32.5 per RAS Metrics.

Also Here:
Daily Mailbag: The insanity of short arms

 

[DaBruinz]

There really isn’t much there, which explains perhaps the giant contract Brown got from Oakland. For LT, apart from Kali (widely regarded as an overpriced bust) one could argue that among the slim pickings, Veldheer (who retired from the Pats) Fleming and Waddle (both former Pats) are arguably the most promising. Slim pickings indeed.

Waddle signed a contract with the Bills. I hadn't heard that he'd been released.
Fleming re-signed with Dallas.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Not sure where it showed 33 5/8, but Thomas was 32.5 per RAS Metrics.

Also Here:
Daily Mailbag: The insanity of short arms

I guess the measurements are all BS. This one had 33.75

Joe Thomas | OT | Wisconsin - NFL Combine Results

 

[zydecochris]

Waddle signed a contract with the Bills. I hadn't heard that he'd been released.
Fleming re-signed with Dallas.

Yes, I was referring to the dearth of talent that had previously been available, let alone now. Brown signed for a king’s ransom. Fleming signed for 7.5M for crying out loud. I would guess that the Pats considered Veldheer an upgrade over Waddle as a backup OT, of course they had no idea he would retire, in hindsight perhaps we should have outbid the Bills for Waddle.

The point of my post was to directly respond to the question of why the Pats aren’t hosting a bunch of free agent OTs. One reason could be that they are comfortable with what they have. I was pointing out that an alternative explanation is that there really isn’t anyone worth hosting out there.

 

[AlexB]

Yes, I was referring to the dearth of talent that had previously been available, let alone now. Brown signed for a king’s ransom. Fleming signed for 7.5M for crying out loud. I would guess that the Pats considered Veldheer an upgrade over Waddle as a backup OT, of course they had no idea he would retire, in hindsight perhaps we should have outbid the Bills for Waddle.

The point of my post was to directly respond to the question of why the Pats aren’t hosting a bunch of free agent OTs. One reason could be that they are comfortable with what they have. I was pointing out that an alternative explanation is that there really isn’t anyone worth hosting out there.

Bills have brought in a lot of OL. It wouldn't shock me if Waddle gets cut out of camp - he just has 400k guaranteed.

 

[Ring 6]

If All of Cannon, Wynn & Cachoo are healthy, then the train will not be derailed...

If they're not (and their lengthy injury histories are not encouraging), then I wouldn't be LOLing so soon.

At this stage of the game you can’t honestly say with a straight face that you believe this team will have a problem that they won’t fix, adjust or work around that will keep it from contending and having a shot at a championship.
After all of these years of whining haven’t you realized that even when your whining isn’t misplaced, they overcome the issue?

 

[WaterfallJumper]

I guess the measurements are all BS. This one had 33.75

Joe Thomas | OT | Wisconsin - NFL Combine Results

I'm not a big fan of that site. It often differs from draftscout.com, mockdraftables, the Combine profile pages themselves, etc. I don't think it's the most accurate database, unfortunately.