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Game Day Thread 2018 Preseason G2: PHI @ NE

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Travis and Richards are abysmal and watching them play defense on this team makes me sad. I makes me wonder how bad David Jones must have been to not even make it to camp this season.

Jones was injured.
 
Burkhead is consistently unavailable once he gets any sort of momentum. Rather have paid Dion if he's always going to be hurt.
Last season aside, Dion was not exactly the model of good health either. That said, I do agree that it’s troubling to see both of your two down specialists with knee issues before Week 1.
 
These articles support my assertions:

Brian Flores' 'Aggressive' Patriots Defense Shines on Day 2 of Minicamp

Patriots defense may be more aggressive under Brian Flores

Dont'a Hightower thinks Patriots defense will be faster, more aggressive in 2018


But, yeah sure, keep moving the goalposts all the way to China.

And please spare me the ******** that your opinion was backed up by "factual information." You didn't cite anything.
The facts are
Bill Belichick believes in a conservative defensive philosophy. This is even more prevalent when he has the best QB in the NFL.

Brian Flores came up through the staff and will engender the philosophy taught him and instructed to him to use by Bill Belichick.

Virtually every preseason the patriot have a blitz package work game. Doing it yesterday is not a signal things have changed.

You literally said he is calling a different defense, then in the next sentence said it was an insult to imply you don’t know defense is vanilla in the preseason.

You will just keep prolonging this because you know you are wrong and won’t admit it.
 
Last season aside, Dion was not exactly the model of good health either. That said, I do agree that it’s troubling to see both of your two down specialists with knee issues before Week 1.

It also gives Gillislee an undeserved opportunity to make the roster.
 
We basically need to draft cover guys who arent hitters in this new NFL.

That's how BB has been drafting and coaching for years. He wants guys who can breakdown and wrap up in the open field, not big hitters.
 
I had remembered that shortly after posting that. He was actually one of their most successful coaches since that last Super Bowl run, strange they fired him after one season lol...I'd blame crazy Al but he was dead by that point.

I thought he was going to turn Cleveland around because he had given the Raiders their best season in forever. I assumed the Raiders just didn't know what they were doing.

Oops
 
That's how BB has been drafting and coaching for years. He wants guys who can breakdown and wrap up in the open field, not big hitters.

Which makes last night encouraging for us. Yes, the flags were annoying as hell and I still don't know what the rule is, but it seems like Philly got almost all of the helmet penalties. Either we've got the right kind of guys and they're coached well on the new rule, or the sample size is too small and the rule is entirely unpredictable (which is also a very strong possibility).
 
I thought he was going to turn Cleveland around because he had given the Raiders their best season in forever. I assumed the Raiders just didn't know what they were doing.

Oops
Huey and Marvin Lewis in one division til the end of time, Ravens and Steelers lucked out there.
 
At least Brady and some of the starters looked good tonight. Richards still sucks dirty dog nuts

You can't mean mine...



...I don't have any.
 
The facts are
Bill Belichick believes in a conservative defensive philosophy. This is even more prevalent when he has the best QB in the NFL.

Brian Flores came up through the staff and will engender the philosophy taught him and instructed to him to use by Bill Belichick.

Virtually every preseason the patriot have a blitz package work game. Doing it yesterday is not a signal things have changed.

You literally said he is calling a different defense, then in the next sentence said it was an insult to imply you don’t know defense is vanilla in the preseason.

You will just keep prolonging this because you know you are wrong and won’t admit it.
Can't imagine anything will change that much. It's still Bill's defense like you said. When it comes down to it, Bill can nix any call he doesn't' like. I think McDaniels would have indefinitely been a larger loss than Patricia.
 
Dr. Chao who's been pretty accurate with injuries also said it's probably an achilles.

Thats because at no point in the game did they slow down the replay enough to see this:



All Chao and almost everyone else saw was Wynn blocking and then suddenly experiencing pain. This shot clearly shows the ankle injury.

But thank god we had time for Zolak drawing and joking with the two bozos downstairs.
 
Which makes last night encouraging for us. Yes, the flags were annoying as hell and I still don't know what the rule is, but it seems like Philly got almost all of the helmet penalties. Either we've got the right kind of guys and they're coached well on the new rule, or the sample size is too small and the rule is entirely unpredictable (which is also a very strong possibility).

What I'm saying is that, what BB has consistently coached Pats defenders NOT to do is now a 15-yard penalty. IOW, Pats defenders likely need a lot less coaching on the new rule than players on other teams since they've been taught for years to avoid that type of contact.

Enforcement is always fairly unpredictable, especially with new rules. However, my guess is that Pats players will end up being flagged far less often than players on other teams - and that in itself will inevitably become an issue that Pats-haters will scream about relentlessly.

Several years ago, the Pats finished a season as the least-penalized team in the league by a notable margin over the second-least-penalized team. That, of course, incited all sorts of spittle-flecked complaints about "ref bias" in favor of the Pats. What no one bothered to notice was that, nearly the entire difference in penalty counts between the Pats and the league average was accounted for by the Pats lack of "false start" and "offsides" flags - the penalties that are the least open to ref interpretation of the rules.

Anyway, the good news is that the perennial big-hitters on other teams who will likely be most affected by the new rule (and unpredictable interpretation/enforcement), are also frequently among the best defensive players on those teams. Many of those players may not be able to adjust their playing style and still retain their effectiveness.

Advantage: Patriots.
 
Thats because at no point in the game did they slow down the replay enough to see this:



All Chao and almost everyone else saw was Wynn blocking and then suddenly experiencing pain. This shot clearly shows the ankle injury.

But thank god we had time for Zolak drawing and joking with the two bozos downstairs.

Zolak was kind of annoying last night (moreso than usual) - and I didn't understand the Brady helmet thing. I think it looks cool.. like Future Tech version of Brady.. TB12 2.0
 
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