Some news on Chad Jackson

[PATRIOT64]

Jackson is no Bethel -YET-. Bethel has played 5 healthy seasons in the NFL and has done nothing, his career so far is a bust. Jackson played a limited role in his rookie season which alot of players do and then was injured for the next one. 2 seasons under his belt and he has barely played. I wouldnt call that a bust yet his career is far from over and he has yet to really play. He could very well go on to have a great career on another team now that he is healthy. Nobody has gotten a chance to see what hes got yet, Bethel has shown what hes got for 5 seasons and is now playing in the CFL for the Toronto Argonauts. Thats a bust. I bet Jackson has a good NFL career and will not be a bust.

That depends on what team Chad ends up at,If he goes to a team with promise and a team that is expected to challenge for the title soon,then yes he has a shot to become something other than putrid

But if he is stuck with a bad team like Atlanta or San Francisco then he would be hard pressed to succeed

 

[Bill 4 Prez]

Can you imagine Jackson starting opposite Ocho Cinco with Carson Palmer throwing him the ball? Hes working out with the Bengals on wednesday.

IMO he is going to catch on with some team and make the pats regret letting him go. He IS good, he just doesnt have the attitude or discipline that the Pats organization demands. He would thrive in a place like Oakland or Cincy.

Can't you just get off this guy, I know you've liked him from the start but I'm starting to believe you just like him too much and you like for him overshadows what reality is, he has produced nothing and if he can't play with Brady who can he play with, plus he had a bad injury, he may have lost a little which really can set a guy like him back.

 

[PATRIOT64]

Jackson is no Bethel -YET-. Bethel has played 5 healthy seasons in the NFL and has done nothing, his career so far is a bust. Jackson played a limited role in his rookie season which alot of players do and then was injured for the next one. 2 seasons under his belt and he has barely played. I wouldnt call that a bust yet his career is far from over and he has yet to really play. He could very well go on to have a great career on another team now that he is healthy. Nobody has gotten a chance to see what hes got yet, Bethel has shown what hes got for 5 seasons and is now playing in the CFL for the Toronto Argonauts. Thats a bust. I bet Jackson has a good NFL career and will not be a bust.

I guess then you think if Matt Cassel went to start as QB on another team that he might fit in better with ,that he would become something like the next Joe Montana?

Same kind of thinking if you ask me

 

[BRiZ]

Can't you just get off this guy, I know you've liked him from the start but I'm starting to believe you just like him too much and you like for him overshadows what reality is, he has produced nothing and if he can't play with Brady who can he play with, plus he had a bad injury, he may have lost a little which really can set a guy like him back.

not really ill be following his career closely, i am very interested in watching him play, i really think we made a mistake letting him go. He was never given a chance here he only played his rookie season. How can you judge a player on their rookie season only? Wait till he plays a couple full seasons in the NFL before we throw around the bust label.

 

[BRiZ]

I guess then you think if Matt Cassel went to start as QB on another team that he might fit in better with ,that he would become something like the next Joe Montana?

Same kind of thinking if you ask me

Jackson has scored 5 TDs in his rookie season and one full preseason playing only a half or so every game, maybe a total of 2 full games. He has produced on the field in his limited looks, hes had more positive plays than negative plays. Cassel has like 5 INTs in his whole career and 0 TDs, he has done nothing positive, i wouldnt expect him to go to another team and play good. Jackson i would expect to go to another team and play well.

 

[Patslifer]

Jackson has scored 5 TDs in his rookie season and one full preseason playing only a half or so every game, maybe a total of 2 full games. He has produced on the field in his limited looks, hes had more positive plays than negative plays. Cassel has like 5 INTs in his whole career and 0 TDs, he has done nothing positive, i wouldnt expect him to go to another team and play good. Jackson i would expect to go to another team and play well.

Your in denial. I think the next stage is anger?

 

[ALP]

I can't imagine Jackson starting opposite Ocho Cinco because T.J Who's your mama is pretty damn good. And that other guy Chris Henry is better than him at this point of their careers.

As much I'm rooting for Jackson to make it in the NFL, he probably won't. I would be surprised if he caught on with a team and ended up as a #1 or #2 reciever.

i wont be surprised at all...

he didnt make our team b/c BB finally decided to be fair, and gave the spots to those who showed most promise on the field....and chad just wasnt one of those guys....and BB got tired of holding him for his potential...especially with the rookie defensive spots he had to give to help the team in the future...


if we didnt have such a good draft i gaurantee u that chad jack would still be with us today, and would have turned one an above average reciever

 

[BRiZ]

Your in denial. I think the next stage is anger?

im confused, i thought chad actually looked good when he was on the field playing, sure hes had a couple bad plays but every player does, he has shown he can be a scoring threat hes caught 5 TDs starting 1 game in his career and playing a handful of plays throught his rookie season and in one full preseason. That is actually pretty good for sure a small amount of playing time. If he had played a full season starting and was healthy i really believe he can be a 10-13 TD type player. I think he was cut because of his attitude and his inability to mesh with the players and coaches, which is too bad.

 

[PATRIOT64]

im confused, i thought chad actually looked good when he was on the field playing, sure hes had a couple bad plays but every player does, he has shown he can be a scoring threat hes caught 5 TDs starting 1 game in his career and playing a handful of plays throught his rookie season and in one full preseason. That is actually pretty good for sure a small amount of playing time. If he had played a full season starting and was healthy i really believe he can be a 10-13 TD type player. I think he was cut because of his attitude and his inability to mesh with the players and coaches, which is too bad.

I think it was SMY who said it best in her recent column that watching Chad play he looked like a beaten man with head down and slumped shoulders after missing a catch or messing up a play.

If you don't have confidence even after making a screwup you will get killed in today's NFL

Just look at all the great receivers who have bad games and miss big catches but ask for the ball to come their way again and attone for the earlier mistake.

Jackson apparently could not handle making errors,at least here and probably went into some kind of depression thing like I am not good enough for this team which is a finisher on a team like the Pats who are full of guys playing hard every play.

If he grows confidence and poise on another team and gets in synch with their QB then your boy has a chance to survive,if not then there is always the CFL or AFL

Best chance for him is probably hooking up with Chad Johnson and a very good QB in Palmer in Cincy

 

[Patslifer]

im confused, i thought chad actually looked good when he was on the field playing, sure hes had a couple bad plays but every player does, he has shown he can be a scoring threat hes caught 5 TDs starting 1 game in his career and playing a handful of plays throught his rookie season and in one full preseason. That is actually pretty good for sure a small amount of playing time. If he had played a full season starting and was healthy i really believe he can be a 10-13 TD type player. I think he was cut because of his attitude and his inability to mesh with the players and coaches, which is too bad.

Right, but that flaw is the same flaw that has turned countless players with all the physical tools into draft busts. People ignore mental strength and smarts when it comes to players. All people see is the physical tools. Its hard to believe a kid that big and ripped, is not the stud he was made out to be.

 

[BRiZ]

Right, but that flaw is the same flaw that has turned countless players with all the physical tools into draft busts. People ignore mental strength and smarts when it comes to players. All people see is the physical tools. Its hard to believe a kid that big and ripped, is not the stud he was made out to be.

true but you have to agree that the pats place a premium on intelligence, character, work ethic, and attitude moreso than other franchises. He might not be able to cut it here but elsewhere they arent so strict as the Pats organization. Chad may not have the mental makeup and character to make it in NE but i wouldnt assume that is going to be his downfall on many other teams.

 

[pinvin]

He is gone. Time to move on.

 

[Joker]

very succinct post...and absolutely correct...unfortunately, the Manchurian Menace, Patjew,is still with us...lurking like some kind of demented Peking Duck...waiting to pounce...I don't know about you, but THAT scares the bejeezus out of me

 

[nashvillepatsfan]

Slightly OT but how in hell do the Titans go into the season with a shaky QB and their two top receivers are Justin McCariens and Justin Gage?

Well, It's simply really. They have been doing it every year since about 1999. They really have become quite good at going into the season with no wr talent. Now yes, they did have Mason, but he was too good for them, so they let him go to Baltimore. As for the qb, he's really quite good late in the game. Too bad for him, he can't hit the broad side of a barn for the first 3 quarters.

sorry for the rant, but I'm stuck here, forced to watch that crappy team, and deal with their crappy fans.:disagreement:

 

[NYCPatsFan]

im confused, i thought chad actually looked good when he was on the field playing, sure hes had a couple bad plays but every player does, he has shown he can be a scoring threat hes caught 5 TDs starting 1 game in his career and playing a handful of plays throught his rookie season and in one full preseason. That is actually pretty good for sure a small amount of playing time. If he had played a full season starting and was healthy i really believe he can be a 10-13 TD type player. I think he was cut because of his attitude and his inability to mesh with the players and coaches, which is too bad.

I think some of you are ignoring or are not aware that the main man, Tom Brady, doesn't have confidence in him. Look up Reiss' comments and I think he mentions it somewhere in his notes in the last two/three days.

That, by far, IMO, is the most important qualification that a WR needs, especially if his QB is one of the best.

You may ask why he cannot be kept around as a ST guy like Washington. I think that is where his attitude and his work ethics might have played a role. But that's purely speculation because just like you, none of us have any priviledged insight or extra info on what exactly goes on.

 

[Sicilian]

Can you imagine Jackson starting opposite Ocho Cinco with Carson Palmer throwing him the ball? Hes working out with the Bengals on wednesday.

IMO he is going to catch on with some team and make the pats regret letting him go. He IS good, he just doesnt have the attitude or discipline that the Pats organization demands. He would thrive in a place like Oakland or Cincy.

Nothing helps turn around a young, undisciplined athlete like the finely tuned machines that are the Oakland Raiders and the Cincinnati Bengals

If he's going to get his career back on track, he's going to need to go someplace that isn't in constant flux and has a reputation for structure. New England didn't work because I don't think he fit the scheme, so now you need:

- A good QB to throw to him
- A stabile franchise
- A weak enough depth chart for him to get some early reps and build confidence
- A system that fits his strengths

Not impossible, but that certainly does make it harder.

 

[BradyToMoss]

Chad Jackson = Bethel Johnson

In fact thier careers almost mirror each other but then again at least Bethel had a few decent games - Chad NEVER had one

You're kidding me.

Bethel played 3 full seasons here in NE (he was healthy for the majority of those 3 full seasons), he played in 39 games and managed a whopping 2TDs.

Chad Jackson WAS HURT. Played in a total of 14 games (25 less than Bethel) and had one more TD (3).

Chad Jackson has more talent in his big toe than Bethel had in his entire frame.

Briz is correct. Chad Jackson has a future in this league and is going to play a long time in this league in the right system and florish. BB said it himself that he wouldn't be surprised if Chad moves on to another team "and plays well". It's just sad that we would rather have a CJ Jones instead of giving Chad one more season, I honestly don;t know what the team gained by cutting Chad now, where was the gain? It was all upside and they threw that opportunity away and a team like the Titans or Raiders or Jags are going to reap the benefits.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

Nothing helps turn around a young, undisciplined athlete like the finely tuned machines that are the Oakland Raiders and the Cincinnati Bengals

If he's going to get his career back on track, he's going to need to go someplace that isn't in constant flux and has a reputation for structure. New England didn't work because I don't think he fit the scheme, so now you need:

- A good QB to throw to him
- A stabile franchise
- A weak enough depth chart for him to get some early reps and build confidence
- A system that fits his strengths

Not impossible, but that certainly does make it harder.

That's pretty much what I said the other day in one of those other CJ threads...

Theoretically he could still make it, but the odds of finding his niche are stacked against him. No established QB's in Oakland and Tennessee, lots of dysfunctional egos in Cincy, instability and finger pointing all around. No veteran leadership. The choice he makes now will seal his fate, and in the end it really may not be his (or much of a) choice to make.

 

[MoLewisrocks]

You're kidding me.

Bethel played 3 full seasons here in NE (he was healthy for the majority of those 3 full seasons), he played in 39 games and managed a whopping 2TDs.

Chad Jackson WAS HURT. Played in a total of 14 games (25 less than Bethel) and had one more TD (3).

Chad Jackson has more talent in his big toe than Bethel had in his entire frame.

Briz is correct. Chad Jackson has a future in this league and is going to play a long time in this league in the right system and florish. BB said it himself that he wouldn't be surprised if Chad moves on to another team "and plays well". It's just sad that we would rather have a CJ Jones instead of giving Chad one more season, I honestly don;t know what the team gained by cutting Chad now, where was the gain? It was all upside and they threw that opportunity away and a team like the Titans or Raiders or Jags are going to reap the benefits.

They gained a roster spot for a guy they believe can help them now. There was no point keeping him if he doesn't fit the system... What makes you think the Titans or Raiders are in position to reap anything? Jags might be a decent fit if they're interested. He won't crack the roster in Cincy and those competing egos would swallow him whole.

Bill admires talent. But he builds winning rosters with football players. Chad is an athletically gifted receiver who stood out in college. It remains to be seen if he can play NFL football. Lots of gifted athletes can't...

 

[Displaced - Fan]

not really ill be following his career closely, i am very interested in watching him play, i really think we made a mistake letting him go. He was never given a chance here he only played his rookie season. How can you judge a player on their rookie season only? Wait till he plays a couple full seasons in the NFL before we throw around the bust label.

Yeah because the poor guy had no chance at all this training camp or preseason. He didn't have all of last year to study up and know the play book. The guy never got a chance. WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING!