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Patriots Pregame Thread Pre-Game thread - 2025 AFC Championship at Denver Broncos

Pregame Discussion ahead of the LIVE game day discussion thread. The actual Game Thread will Open an hour ahead of kickoff.
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I expect that Farmer will be activated. We need the body for the rotation at high altitude.

I also expect Jennings to be activated.
So WHO are your 1., 2., & 3. To be cut from the 53 man roster if they “activate” all 3 of these guys?

1. Farmer (DT) - - - - - - -> __________
2. Jennings (RB) - - - - - - -> __________
3. Hollins (WR) - - - - - - -> __________

AND…. what status could you put them in so they aren’t waiver wire candidates for another team **.
**(I don’t think playoff teams can claim, but maybe others ???. Or do I have that backwards? )
 
The pro Bronco stuff is incredible. They are a juggernaut that can't be beaten. JFC I have never heard this type of high level wall defending ever.

Hearing now the Broncos D-line is gonna destroy the Pats O Line. Sb 59 redux apparently.
 
They hate us, cuz they AIN'T us.

Does this mean KC & Vegas like us now?

……well ok, maybe they just hate the Donkeys more.

And I guess SD & LA got over-voted by Rams fans who want an easy victory over Denver.
 
The pro Bronco stuff is incredible. They are a juggernaut that can't be beaten. JFC I have never heard this type of high level wall defending ever.

Hearing now the Broncos D-line is gonna destroy the Pats O Line. Sb 59 redux apparently.
The Broncos have a very good defensive line.

The Patriots have just come off of two teams with better defensive lines.
 
So WHO are your 1., 2., & 3. To be cut from the 53 man roster if they “activate” all 3 of these guys?

1. Farmer (DT) - - - - - - -> __________
2. Jennings (RB) - - - - - - -> __________
3. Hollins (WR) - - - - - - -> __________

AND…. what status could you put them in so they aren’t waiver wire candidates for another team **.
**(I don’t think playoff teams can claim, but maybe others ???. Or do I have that backwards? )

1.) Swinson
2.) CJ Dupre
3.) Chism
 
So WHO are your 1., 2., & 3. To be cut from the 53 man roster if they “activate” all 3 of these guys?

1. Farmer (DT) - - - - - - -> __________
2. Jennings (RB) - - - - - - -> __________
3. Hollins (WR) - - - - - - -> __________

AND…. what status could you put them in so they aren’t waiver wire candidates for another team **.
**(I don’t think playoff teams can claim, but maybe others ???. Or do I have that backwards? )
Swinson
D'Ernest
Sherrfield (unless they have him for a futures contract)
 
I vote for Minor and Johnson
 
The Broncos have a very good defensive line.

The Patriots have just come off of two teams with better defensive lines.

I see the wildcard here being our D-line vs. their O-line which is better than Houston's and LA's. If we can't get to Stidham it will be a long day. And at that altitude, the longer our D stays on the field, the worse it will get for them. It's absolutely imperative to get our defense off the field as quickly as possible on every Denver offensive drive. Otherwise, they'll be gassed out by the beginning of the 3rd quarter, if not beforehand.
 
The only road game that gives me pause about this game is our game against Baltimore. Lamar Jackson went down early and we still needed two late TDs to win. What gives me some comfort from that game is that Baltimore was playing for their lives and they were playing like a 12 win team rather than an 8 win team.
 
I see the wildcard here being our D-line vs. their O-line which is better than Houston's and LA's. If we can't get to Stidham it will be a long day. And at that altitude, the longer our D stays on the field, the worse it will get for them. It's absolutely imperative to get our defense off the field as quickly as possible on every Denver offensive drive. Otherwise, they'll be gassed out by the beginning of the 3rd quarter, if not beforehand.
McD coached there. I am sure he has many tricks up his sleeve to keep the players fresh. Plus the Pats have some really good depth along the D line, which the Bills didn't have. That is going to be a huge factor.
 
I didn't make this list. Its off Fakebook.

But, I've been saying forever that NE would not have win SB36 without Tuna building the foundation.
And I think Tuna's contributions are overstated just like his Pats HOF candidacy.
I've gone from not being high on the Vrabel/McDaniels hire to thinking we might just have the best braintrust in the NFL.

Payton is a good coach... But I don't know. I think we have a real big edge on gameplanning here. This is more of a gut read, but Payton has fallen short with much crazier rosters before.
I read somewhere that Sean Payton's career playoff record is 10-9. Like the coach himself, good, but nothing special. The thing that I respect most about Payton is his longevity. He's been good for a long time and I really respect that, BUT he hasn't been GREAT for a long time and people somehow forget that. Of the 3 coaches that are left besides Vrabel, I fear Payton the least. Just sayin'
 
I see the wildcard here being our D-line vs. their O-line which is better than Houston's and LA's. If we can't get to Stidham it will be a long day. And at that altitude, the longer our D stays on the field, the worse it will get for them. It's absolutely imperative to get our defense off the field as quickly as possible on every Denver offensive drive. Otherwise, they'll be gassed out by the beginning of the 3rd quarter, if not beforehand.
If our Third Down Offense put up another performance like Sunday: we'll be on the other end of this one. We gotta be over 50% on Third Downs and not below.
 
Swinson
D'Ernest Johnson
Sherrfield
(unless they have him for a futures contract)
I believe You don’t get to activate an IR guy onto the PS. So the 2 PS guys can’t be used.
Swinson (LB for a DT)
And Minor (CB), as you said in other post could (and more likely for a wr swap).

Still short one.
 
The Broncos have a very good defensive line.

The Patriots have just come off of two teams with better defensive lines.
I'd say Denver has a better line (pass rush wise) than both the Texans and the Chargers. But their coverage is more suspect.

Run defense somewhat more shaky as well (that is a light D line).
 
The week I have YET to hear a mediot mention that Denver had the 2nd easiest schedule this season and had to struggle mightily get their 14-3 record, while the Pats spent most of their 4th quarters running the ball and kneeling down. Meanwhile the Pats' easy schedule narrative is going full force.
 
And I think Tuna's contributions are overstated just like his Pats HOF candidacy.
I read somewhere that Sean Payton's career playoff record is 10-9. Like the coach himself, good, but nothing special. The thing that I respect most about Payton is his longevity. He's been good for a long time and I really respect that, BUT he hasn't been GREAT for a long time and people somehow forget that. Of the 3 coaches that are left besides Vrabel, I fear Payton the least. Just sayin'
Agree completely

The BB players on this years team are more impactful that the Parcells players on the 2001 team, not to mention Parcells wasn’t buying the groceries.
No one is, or should be, giving BB credit for laying the groundwork for 2025
 
I see the wildcard here being our D-line vs. their O-line which is better than Houston's and LA's. If we can't get to Stidham it will be a long day. And at that altitude, the longer our D stays on the field, the worse it will get for them. It's absolutely imperative to get our defense off the field as quickly as possible on every Denver offensive drive. Otherwise, they'll be gassed out by the beginning of the 3rd quarter, if not beforehand.

My experience, from when I first moved to Co Springs (spent 2.5 years there) was that I didn’t notice anything in casual activities, but sport was affected in anything beyond a short spurt of activity.
I Tried jogging my usual 2+ miles on first morning after driving there (thru AZ etc from CA, so I had a day - 2 of somewhat acclimitization along the way). I made it about 1/4 mile before wheezing and running out of air.

So from my experience I would say that the guys you absolutely need to worry about is not so much DL, but the DBs and S. You gotta rotate DL normally anyway. So not saying you don’t do that. Just I don’t think they will see the O2 affects so much.

AND Payton has already said somewhere in another game that he calls deep routes in 4Q when th3 other team is winded.
 
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