PostGame Thread OFFICIAL POSTGAME THREAD: Patriots Beat the Giants 33-15 (10th Straight Win)

[denverpatsfan]

Bills ain't losing at home to Cincy.

 

[mayoclinic]

I'm not sure the Bills are capable of playing 2 good games in a row.

 

[mgteich]

(Yes, I know Tomlin got to and won a Super Bowl, but I mean more recent Tomlin.)

Tomlin is a top 10 coach and always has been.

Most teams would like to have that quality coach (and even the PIT level of wins since he's been there). Tomlin hasn't had a QB since Big Ben.

To put it another way,

we have had so many great things happen this year. However, consider the team with Josh and Drake not here, with say a Brissett level as our QB for the next 3 years. Would we consider Vrabel a great coach?

 

[denverpatsfan]

Tomlin is a top 10 coach and always has been.

Most teams would like to have that quality coach (and even the PIT level of wins since he's been there). Tomlin hasn't had a QB since Big Ben.

To put it another way,

we have had so many great things happen this year. However, consider the team with Josh and Drake not here, with say a Brissett level as our QB for the next 3 years. Would we consider Vrabel a great coach?

Good point. I would still say yes. He beat Brady and Bill in Foxboro with ****ing Ryan Tannehill.

 

[mgteich]

Bob outs self as closet Bills fan!
Ban Him, Ian!!!

Yes, for some, hating other teams is the hallmark of fandom.

For others, the Bills have never been hated (much like the giants). Hate is reserved for MIA, the jets and perhaps the raiders. With regard to KC, the emotion is simple envy.

 

[mayoclinic]

The Bills have honestly never been meaningful enough to hate, and aren't intrinsically loathsome to the same degree the Jetes and Phish, just kind of pathetic, even when winning the division.

 

[PatsFan2]

Bills ain't losing at home to Cincy.

Oh yeah Joe Burrow ain't going to Buffalo to kiss Josh Allen's rings...oh nevermind. That said: Joe Burrow is a very Clutch QB: I wouldn't bet against him even against Allen and Mahomes...Burrow is just that dam good.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Tomlin is a top 10 coach and always has been.

Most teams would like to have that quality coach (and even the PIT level of wins since he's been there). Tomlin hasn't had a QB since Big Ben.

To put it another way,

we have had so many great things happen this year. However, consider the team with Josh and Drake not here, with say a Brissett level as our QB for the next 3 years. Would we consider Vrabel a great coach?

I disagree with this 100%
I think Tomlin is a good leader and mentor
I do not think he is a good coach at all, in fact I think he’s the most overrated coach of our time.
When the rubber hits the road, and he has to make adjustments or manage in game decisions he is truly awful.
I know many Steelers fans, 9 out of every 10 wanted him fired years ago for the reasons I stated.
He will be a hot commodity if Pitt moves on, which is truly baffling to me.

 

[dliverey44]

Bob outs self as closet Bills fan!
Ban Him, Ian!!!

I would rather come out of the closet as gay rather than a Bills fan. Or is that the same thing?

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

Bills ain't losing at home to Cincy.

Pretty sure you said the same about the Colts last weekend.
And the Eagles not losing another game prior to the Bears loss.
There’s been others as well.
Think I will take your prediction with a grain of salt.
I think Burrow is 2-0 in Buffalo.
Bills have been incredibly inconsistent this year.
Bengals could most certainly win this game.

 

[BobDigital]

Come one guys! I'm not a Bills fan!

(Yells and jumps from the top of their house through a folding table in WWE style in frustration)

Pff, me a 'Bills fan? Forget about it...

 

[BobDigital]

Yes, for some, hating other teams is the hallmark of fandom.

For others, the Bills have never been hated (much like the giants). Hate is reserved for MIA, the jets and perhaps the raiders. With regard to KC, the emotion is simple envy.

No... I hate KC. I don't much like Kelce as he was always kind of a **** IMO and think they as an organization have no bottom line. They for almost a decade have unapologetically made a woman beater their star WR in one form of another. I dislike how favored they are by the NFL and refs (this is not fan colored glasses but provable with data). Also their fans are terrible. Pat fans got a lot of hate around the NFL for being 'smug'. But here is the thing. All we did during our dynasty years was say we have the best team in the NFL, and the best organization overall. And we were. Top to bottom. Owner, Coach, QB. I'm sorry if that rubbed other fans the wrong way but it was the truth. When we were bad we embraced that too the last few years. Where did that so called smugness go? But KC fans? They can be a very toxic fan, particularly in their stadium. Not as bad as the Eagles or Ravens fans... but the next tier down. Add that to all the other problems in their organization and their unwillingness to hold their team accountable for anything and yes. I hate KC.

Hate for me is as fellows.

#1 Baltimore #2 Eagles #3 KC. My top 3. The Jets are #4... Because they will never be good enough to be #1 at anything except maybe in blowing draft picks and ruining players. Colts and MIA are the next rung down. But i don't hate Colts fans really or Miami fans. But the Colts are just such a ***** organization that cheated and played victim while being a whine bully.

I wish i could hate the Broncos and NYG... but they are more just fierce rivals. Though it does grind my gears a bit Denver fans LOVE to point out cheating of other teams while not admitting to any of their own BS. I don't think Giants fans do that more than any other fan base but it is kind of a thing in Denver for some reason.

As for the Bills... Their fans are silly... but honesty I kind of feel a little bad for them. 4 SBs in a row in no wins... Wasting one of the best long term cores of all time that any team had... then they get Josh Allen and he looks like he will be wasted too. This is a team and fan base that should have won at least 1 super bowl by now but probably more... and just seems unable to get out of their own way EVER. It is almost too pathetic to watch really.

 

[TommyD4207]

Bills ain't losing at home to Cincy.

Pinned. Just in case your wrong streak continues.
It's been an epic run.

 

[The Gr8est]

No... I hate KC. I don't much like Kelce as he was always kind of a **** IMO and think they as an organization has no bottom line. They for almost a decade have unapologetically made a woman beater their star WR in one form of another. I dislike how favored they are by the NFL and refs (this is not fan colored glasses but provable with data). Also their fans are terrible. Pat fans get a lot of hate around the NFL for being 'smug'. But here is the thing. All we did during our dynasty years was say we have the best team in the NFL at, and the best organization overall. And we did. Top to bottom. Owner, Coach, QB. I'm sorry if that rubbed other fans the wrong way but it was the truth. When we were bad we embraced that too the last few years. Where did that so called smugness go? But KC fans? They are not just smug, they are absolutely toxic. They can be a very toxic fan, particularly in their stadium. Not as bad as the Eagles or Ravens fans... but the next tier down. Add that to all the other problems in their organization and their unwillingness to hold their team accountable for anything and yes. I hate KC.

Hate for me is as fellows.

#1 Baltimore #2 Eagles #3 KC. My top 3. The Jets are #4... Because they will never be good enough to be #1 at anything. Colts, MIA are the next rung down. But i don't hate Colts fans really or Miami fans honestly. But the Colts are just such a ***** organization that cheated and played victim while being a whine bully.

I wish i could hate the Broncos and NYG... but they are more just fierce rivals. Though it does grind my gears a bit Denver fans LOVE to point out cheating of other teams while not admitting to any of their own BS. I don't think Giants fans do that more than any other fan base but it is kind of a thing in Denver for some reason.

As for the Bills... Their fans are silly... but honesty I kind of feel a little bad for them. 4 SBs in a row in no wins... Wasting one of the best long term cores of all time... then they get Josh Allen and he looks like he will be wasted too. This is a team and fan base that should have won at least 1 super bowl by now but probably more... and just seems unable to get out of their own way EVER. It is almost too pathetic to watch really.

It always bothered me that Kelce was portrayed as a top TE like Gronk.

Kelce is only a receiver, Gronk was the complete package receiver and devastating blocker.

Maybe the best ever.

Kelce is NOT close to Gronk.

 

[PatsFan2]

It always bothered me that Kelce was portrayed as a top TE like Gronk.

Kelce is only a receiver, Gronk was the complete package receiver and devastating blocker.

Maybe the best ever.

Kelce is NOT close to Gronk.

Yeah in statue: but even though I kind of hate him Kelce is way more durable.

 

[DoubleDeluxe]

It always bothered me that Kelce was portrayed as a top TE like Gronk.

Kelce is only a receiver, Gronk was the complete package receiver and devastating blocker.

Maybe the best ever.

Kelce is NOT close to Gronk.

Doesn’t bother me at all.
The TE position has changed so much over the last few years.
Kelce is a big slot WR, and a really good one, he’s going to the HOF.
Him and Gronk are the same in position name only, and yes I prefer all around TEs and would take Gronk over Kelce all day, but Kelce has been great at what he does.

 

[PatsFan2]

Pretty sure you said the same about the Colts last weekend.
And the Eagles not losing another game prior to the Bears loss.
There’s been others as well.
Think I will take your prediction with a grain of salt.
I think Burrow is 2-0 in Buffalo.
Bills have been incredibly inconsistent this year.
Bengals could most certainly win this game.

Wouldn't it be something if The Bengals win that Division. I see why they brought Joe Burrow back now: the Steelers and Ravens both Stink. lt wouldn't shock me if they end up in a tie on Sunday.

 

[PatsFan2]

Doesn’t bother me at all.
The TE position has changed so much over the last few years.
Kelce is a big slot WR, and a really good one, he’s going to the HOF.
Him and Gronk are the same in position name only, and yes I prefer all around TEs and would take Gronk over Kelce all day, but Kelce has been great at what he does.

Exactly and they're a lot of Kelce type TE's in the League Today. I hope we get one next year.

 

[Uptown]

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@Clonamery I’m aware that it’s been discussed at nauseum, but I truly felt the need to get my point across. No pun intended..

 

[Uptown]