Vrabel's Staff Discussion Thread (Discuss related news here)

[dliverey44]

Is Vrabes going to draft Howard since he won the championship? lol

 

[n1997y]

Tell me about it.

You kids!

 

[n1997y]

My back hurts all the time, I never remember where I put my keys, I get up to pee several times a night, and I now have a yearly visit to the cardiologist.

So glad I know where my keys are!

 

[mgcolby]

It's still early, but we really don't have a choice. It's not like coaches are lining up to for the Pats.

And I'd rather have this than another year with Mayo.

It's still extremely early. Hell what is it 5 teams that don't have HC's at the moment? With that said. I would assume hiring Vrabel so quickly should give us a head start on interviews and making offers.

Although I disagree that coaches don't want to come here. I think with Vrabel in charge and Maye at QB, salary cap etc...it should be a program on the rise and I would think folks would be interested in coming here. But I admittedly do not know how coaches view Vrabel around the league.

 

[n1997y]

There isn't an issue with interviewing a number of real candidates, the issue is when you hire the 12th because a number turned you down.

And that number was eleven.

And eleven was that number.

 

[n1997y]

Brian Hoyer said if Josh called him to help coach Drake he’s not going to say no. So I do like that presence there. does Hoyers game resemble Mayes no not at all. But I think multiple voices like a Hoyer and say a former QB who was also known to rush a bit like say a Cam Newton I would like to have him have that multifaceted perspective.

I’m not worried how Mayes’ resembles Hoyer’s game. What is Hoyers’ game anyway? Whatever it is he’s certainly been around enough to have seen game from many perspectives. I think his last years with the Patriots he was being paid to be a coach in the locker room. No need for multiple voices, Hoyer has seen everything another voice could bring. And no way it would be good to bring Cam in! Except maybe for a fan appreciation nostalgia night.

 

[n1997y]

Like Brissett, Hoyer would be a bad mentor for Maye.

I don’t agree.

Why do you say that?

I think there’s a good chance Hoyer could teach much better QB than he could play.

 

[n1997y]

If the do decide Josh is the guy and they want to run E/P, Hoyer would be an interesting choice as an assistant/QB coach because he has played in E/P, WC and the spread offense. He knows the subtleties and the differences of the systems.

As it relates to Drake, think of Hoyer as a glorified translator.

I was thinking, maybe they hire some up and comer for OC and then hire Josh as special assistant to the OC. Same logic, hire Hoyer as special assistant to the QB coach. Let the nominal coaches deal with the formal administrivia and organizational support while the special assistants focus on football skills. Hopefully OL staff gets filled out quickly too.

 

[Grogan14]

I suspect the reason there is such radio silence on coordinator interviews is that Pats do not want it made public when they are turned down.
It was an embarrassment last year

 

[archstanton543]

I suspect the reason there is such radio silence on coordinator interviews is that Pats do not want it made public when they are turned down.
It was an embarrassment last year

Or they're waiting for the playoffs to be over or the Super Bowl bye week.

 

[Dec54]

Or they're waiting for the playoffs to be over or the Super Bowl bye week.

I prefer the positive attitude

 

[Huckleberry1]

From all reports Peter’s was a excellent hire.

Reports from whom?

 

[Huckleberry1]

This coordinator hiring period is giving me PTSD flashbacks from last year when all the top candidates came off the board whike the house burned in Foxboro.
Come on Vrabel don’t leave us with table scraps

Your posts are giving me flashbacks to last year when you didn’t want Jayden Daniels because “his articulation wasn’t very good “ during his Heisman acceptance speech.

 

[Huckleberry1]

You guys do realize that at least 4 teams haven’t even hired their head coaches yet, right? And that you can pick up and coming coaches from the college ranks as well, right?

You ***** about absolutely everything, it’s nauseating.

 

[Grogan14]

Your posts are giving me flashbacks to last year when you didn’t want Jayden Daniels because “his articulation wasn’t very good “ during his Heisman acceptance speech.

You are exaggerating what I said. I said I wasn’t sure about his leadership capabilities.
Lots of folks had concerns about his build and injury risk in nfl.
So far we were proven wrong.
Unlike many on this board I have no problem admitting when I am wrong

 

[Real fan 02]

He was OK. He needs to pick a better KR though.

He has an all pro returner in mighty mouse Jones whenever he's not on IR..

 

[Grogan14]

You guys do realize that at least 4 teams haven’t even hired their head coaches yet, right? And that you can pick up and coming coaches from the college ranks as well, right?

You ***** about absolutely everything, it’s nauseating.

Ivan its an opinion on a message board. No need to suffer physical symptoms from it. If you disagree I politely suggest you let it go in one ear and out the other or ignore
The angry hyper reactions are un necessary

 

[Grogan1980]

We live in such an instant gratification world now… And want to hear minute by minute updates on our interests… It’s hard to wait, but this is probably a case where we need to chill a while and trust that Vrabel has a plan (myself included). My only concern is that I hope it is (mostly) Vrabel’s plan and there’s not too much meddling.
Either way, we won’t know the real results of the process for months or even years… Meaning, he may put together a staff we think sounds not great, but the eventual results are fine.
We New England sports fans are a funny breed

 

[Huckleberry1]

You are exaggerating what I said. I said I wasn’t sure about his leadership capabilities.
Lots of folks had concerns about his build and injury risk in nfl.
So far we were proven wrong.
Unlike many on this board I have no problem admitting when I am wrong

I used your exact words. You called it his “articulation.” And it was one of the most idiotic comments I have ever seen, and I called you on it at the time. And while I’m glad you can admit you were wrong you never seem to learn from it. It’s a river of negativity.

 

[Stu Pidassle]

I suspect the reason there is such radio silence on coordinator interviews is that Pats do not want it made public when they are turned down.
It was an embarrassment last year

Operating based on fear of failure is not how to lead a team. With Vrabel in charge the Pats have a legitimate chance of getting anyone out there. Even if a candidate decides to go somewhere else it would not be a clown show, or stain on the organization.