OFFICIAL 2024 League Cutdown Day Discussion

[signbabybrady]

That’s not really true. That example would expose a weakness of Bentley that is hidden by having good players in front of him.
For example if Barmore and Judon draw double teams and that lets Bentley run free as a blitzed, he benefited from who he was playing with.
In Bentleys case, since he can’t cover anyone, being part of a better front 7 limits the need for him to cover 1 on 1 or helps him compensate because there is a good rush. If there is no pass rush and that exposes his cover skills that’s showing you his weakness.

Ok we get it you think Bentley is barely average or worse. I disagree and think he's much better than that.

 

[DaBruinz]

Is that a yes or no?

It's unlikely he'd agree to be traded to the Pats to begin with. Then there is the whole contract issue.. He was a 3-4 year deal. I think the Pats have signed 1 player (Godchaux) who is 30 years or older.

The Pats CUT or didn't re-sign 8 players who were 30+. 3 others retired. They chose not to try and sign Gilmore.. It's unlikely this GM/Coaching combo is going to bring in a 36yr old Tackle.

 

[Ring 6]

Mills, Phillips and Wilson were back-ups.. Did you even bother to look at how many snaps they got?

The Pats replaces Wilson with McMillan. Phillips is replaced by an ACTUAL Free Safety in Hawkins.

No. Judon hasn't been replaced. But he was gone a majority of last season. Yet the Pats had the 15th Scoring defense.

You're acting like Barmore's blood clots happened in March and not August. How could they have replaced him?


Here is what the Pats got back from injury for their defense: Gonzalez. Marcus Jones. McMillan, Isaiah Bolden, Daniel Ekuale

They also have an improved Keion White who is replacing Guy. An improved Alex Austin.

So, while you lament what they've lost, you completely ignore what they added.

Yeah. They lost Steven and Bill. That happens when there is a coaching changeover.. Are you saying that Mayo and Covington can't handle things?


Your ignorance is astounding, Ring. Always has been.. Typical dumb response from you putting words in other people's mouths. Per usual, you want to add a player for the sake of adding a player with ZERO thought to anything beyond your nose.

Those 3 played about 900 snaps which is the equivalent of a starter.

McMillan has played 419 snaps in FOUR YEARS.
Hawkins played himself off 2 teams last year and signed for basically the vet minimum
How does Keion White replace Guy if he has to replace Judon and doesn’t play inside the G?
Alex Austin, Isaiah Bolden I mean you are just listing names they have not been good nfl players.

As far as your last comment, first, are you capable of speaking to another person without trying to insult them? Every post you write includes talking down to people and calling them names. Some of those people may have also given you money when you begged for it.
You responded to someone wanting Williams that he misses games. If that was t saying we are better off without him please clarify why you said that.
I will venture to say that 100% of everyone who knows anything about football would conclude our team is better if we got him.

 

[Ring 6]

Ok we get it you think Bentley is barely average or worse. I disagree and think he's much better than that.

Don’t put words in my mouth.

Bentley has strengths and weaknesses. He plays physically, yet he misleads plays from time to time. He takes advantage of mistakes, but is well below typical MLB speed/agility/mobility and he struggles in coverage.
He is a good player to give in your defense. He is a complementary player not a star. If he is your best player, you are in trouble.

 

[DaBruinz]

Those 3 played about 900 snaps which is the equivalent of a starter.

So, they were PART-TIME players. AT BEST.

McMillan has played 419 snaps in FOUR YEARS.
Hawkins played himself off 2 teams last year and signed for basically the vet minimum
How does Keion White replace Guy if he has to replace Judon and doesn’t play inside the G?
Alex Austin, Isaiah Bolden I mean you are just listing names they have not been good nfl players.

More BS from you, Ring. You clearly don't watch the games anymore.
McMillan played 453 snaps in 2020 and 527 snaps in 2022. Just more proof you only bother with what YOU think is factual and not what actually IS.

As far as your last comment, first, are you capable of speaking to another person without trying to insult them? Every post you write includes talking down to people and calling them names. Some of those people may have also given you money when you begged for it.
You responded to someone wanting Williams that he misses games. If that was t saying we are better off without him please clarify why you said that.
I will venture to say that 100% of everyone who knows anything about football would conclude our team is better if we got him.

You're the last one to be talking about "insulting" people. That's your MODUS OPERANDI and has been for YEARS.

I'd venture that the MANAGEMENT of the Patriots don't share your opinion on Williams. Otherwise, they'd have signed a player like Gilmore, who would be an UPGRADE at the CB position. But why bother with facts when you can just spew the way you do, Ring.

Back to oblivion with you..

 

[Real fan 02]

lol my kids used to love seeing the Fung wa bus.

Lol.. they went out of business for shady business practices

 

[Ring 6]

So, they were PART-TIME players. AT BEST.


More BS from you, Ring. You clearly don't watch the games anymore.
McMillan played 453 snaps in 2020 and 527 snaps in 2022. Just more proof you only bother with what YOU think is factual and not what actually IS.


You're the last one to be talking about "insulting" people. That's your MODUS OPERANDI and has been for YEARS.

I'd venture that the MANAGEMENT of the Patriots don't share your opinion on Williams. Otherwise, they'd have signed a player like Gilmore, who would be an UPGRADE at the CB position. But why bother with facts when you can just spew the way you do, Ring.

Back to oblivion with you..

Part time players matter.

McMillan played 169 snaps on defense in 2020
Zero in 2021. 250 in 2022 and zero in 2023. So it would seem you are talking BS.

So you accept that you insult people regularly. Ok. And you are wrong about me, I’ve never insulted anyone on this board that wasn’t in response to them throwing the first insult.

I suppose the management of the patriots doesn’t agree with me on much given that they have had the worst off season I’ve ever seen and are putting this abomination of a roster on the field.
But they surely would agree we are better with Williams on the team. He is probably the best LT in the NFL and we will likely have the worst. The problem is Kraft won’t let them spend the money it would take.

I see you still don’t know the meaning of a fact.

 

[sb1]

Can he play on the OL? I remember when he blocked his own teammate (Wynn?) on a play. Impressed. Sign the beast

 

[Toofy]

Vikings have also cut lewis cine... That's surprising. So lots of 1st round draft whiffs across the board in the league.

Chiefs seem to have struck gold in last few drafts and no wonder are due for 3 peat. Something similar to pats 2009- 2011 drafts.

 

[captain stone]

C/G Matt Hennessy & CB Josh Jobe interest me the most.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Can he play on the OL? I remember when he blocked his own teammate (Wynn?) on a play. Impressed. Sign the beast

I remember they had him at PR for a play in that wind game in buffalo. Bizarre decision with a predictable finish lol

 

[sb1]

Guess the switch to WR didn’t pan out in Baltimore. Saw nothing from him in Pats camp that showed any potential as a WR in this league.

 

[dliverey44]

He was available as a free agent for quite awhile and we did not make an effort to sign him, so I take that as they view him as worse than Lowe.

This was about Geron Christian, but given that he is familiar with the system and played a lot of LT for the Browns when Wills got hurt he would probably be a good signing.

 

[hornetfb85]

Guess the switch to WR didn’t pan out in Baltimore. Saw nothing from him in Pats camp that showed any potential as a WR in this league.

Hey, there’s our 4th quar…

 

[mgteich]

This was about Geron Christian, but given that he is familiar with the system and played a lot of LT for the Browns when Wills got hurt he would probably be a good signing.

I think that we should add two LT's and cut one of the three, including Lowe within a week.
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The comparison for signing a player is to compare to no one. We need two LT's and we have one of the 53.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I think that we should add two LT's and cut one of the three, including Lowe within a week.
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The comparison for signing a player is to compare to no one. We need two LT's and we have one of the 53.

This is the worst offensive line ever! I doubt lowe is qualified to work as a wal mart greeter because he is too slow and lazy for the job!!!!

 

[DaBruinz]

Guess the switch to WR didn’t pan out in Baltimore. Saw nothing from him in Pats camp that showed any potential as a WR in this league.

He's a developmental project at WR. Remember how long it took Edelman?

 

[mgteich]

This is the worst offensive line ever! I doubt lowe is qualified to work as a wal mart greeter because he is too slow and lazy for the job!!!!

I agree. Not having a LT makes the line the worst ever, and the team the worst ever.

 

[Brick27]

Not that it would be a miracle cure, but would love to add someone hardheaded as a blocking TE or undervalued positional guy who is more of a throwback FB.

Basically just someone who could be an A-Hole out there on offense and add a different layer. Make up for some of the shortcomings of the OL and be an extra guy on the edge and move around for help, or just add some physicality since they can’t hitch their wagon on high end talent. A sh*t disturber or “Back in my day..” player.

Instead they have three finesse TEs, not a lot of physicality in the run game, and definitely not a run game equipped to support the huge question mark of the passing game. Just a thought. With 53 spots on an untalented team, there is room for anything. With everything in life and business, if you can’t be “better than”, maybe try to be “different than”.

 

[mgteich]

This is the worst offensive line ever! I doubt lowe is qualified to work as a wal mart greeter because he is too slow and lazy for the job!!!!

We all knew that the OL would take time to even be able to protect the QB.
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That being said, I like 4/5 of the OL, and don't think that thry are terrible at all. And yes, there will likely be additions next year.
LG- (Strange)-Sow-[Jordan or Leverett until Strange is back]
C- Andrews-Leverett
RG- Onwenu-Robinson
RT- Okorafor-Wallace (with Wallace probably starting after some experience)
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LT-A TOTAL FAILURE with Lowe as starter and no backup.

Hopefully, we'll sign one 2nd or 3rd string vet and a 3rd string backup, both NFL quality players, but probably much below average. We might even sign a backup OG/C as an upgrade to Jordan.