Are we a quarterback away from being good?

[Nunchucks]

We need a qb and two OTs.

 

[State]

QB (legit vet, or 1st rounder ready to play)
LT/RT (new franchise LT, and RT - if Onwenu moves back to RG)
WR (legit #1, re-sign Bourne, + 2 more with real talent)
RB (3rd down change of pace)
TE (new threat to replace Gesicki)

This is spot on. That’s why last year’s draft when we went defense with Marty Mapoo in the third round after Gonzalez and Keion White in the first two rounds was a farcical GM move by BB.

 

[NFL Mystique]

Not taking a QB because the team has many holes doesn't make sense to me.

QB is the most important position in sports.

 

[Tunescribe]

Not taking a QB because the team has many holes doesn't make sense to me.

QB is the most important position in sports.

A quarterback can't function well with too many needs around him. Your team is in the process of slowly realizing that.

 

[NFL Mystique]

A quarterback can't function well with too many needs around him. Your team is in the process of slowly realizing that.

I realize that.

But when is there going to be a QB class like this again? And how do you know the Patriots will be able to grab one?

 

[Tunescribe]

I realize that.

But when is there going to be a QB class like this again? And how do you know the Patriots will be able to grab one?

I probably am the wrong person to ask that question since I'd want the Pats to trade down for multiple early picks, maybe one of which could still be a quarterback.

 

[PancakeBlockPaul]

Doesn't matter if we get a QB, receiver(s), Long Snapper, or Gunner....if we do not focus on getting multiple elite linemen. Everything else is secondary. Who was the last elite tackle we drafted? Solder? Says a lot...

 

[50-yard-line]

The Jeudy ship has sailed love Calvin Ridley but the Jags might retain him 24 Great year to double dip @ WR some good ones will be available.

Why? Denver extend him?

 

[JohnJH]

We need a qb and two OTs.

And some weapons on offense.

 

[JohnJH]

This is spot on. That’s why last year’s draft when we went defense with Marty Mapoo in the third round after Gonzalez and Keion White in the first two rounds was a farcical GM move by BB.

I'm also skeptical of the Keion White pick.

 

[JohnJH]

Tyreek hill made Tua elite. If Marvin Harrison is like that , draft the beast. Maybe 2 -3 stud wide receivers make any qb QB- elite.

I agree with your general premise, but without an OL, the QB won't have the time to throw to elite WR's.

 

[Wozzy]

They are not a QB away being even an "ok" team.

If Zappe plays simply "good," we're going to find out to end this season.

 

[Wozzy]

Are you finally warming up to the "magic quarterback" narrative?

Saying QB's don't have magic powers is not the same as saying a team can win with bad QB play.

It's saying the difference between elite QB's at the top is almost negligible, in exact similar conditions they'd be almost indecipherable.

QB's are the most important position in football, they're also entirely overrated by most fans.

 

[Nunchucks]

The patriots are probably a robust 7 and 6 with decent qb play.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I'm skeptical of this. Not impressed with the OL. The defense can best be described as well coached, rather than talented. I think you can make an argument to trade down and spread out the draft value. I know those top QBs are tempting and sometimes QB can hide a lot of flaws but I'm not thrilled with the roster and I'd accept a lesser QB to build up the OL, DL and running game. Hell, if we can build the line enough I'd keep rolling with Zappe In my mind the key to take a step forward with this roster is the left side of the line, not so much QB.

Depends on the QB which in turn is at the mercy of his receiving and play calling.

Mahomes or a healthy Joe Burrow instantaneously makes this a playoff team.

But as we've seen lately in KC, WRs need to catch the ball or the QB will have a harder time

 

[1960Pats]

I realize that.

But when is there going to be a QB class like this again? And how do you know the Patriots will be able to grab one?

The NCAA coaches stopped training pocket QBs for the NYFL and started using running QBs that help them keep their jobs. That resulted in less pocket QBs, which is what you still need in the NYFL to win.

 

[1960Pats]

Depends on the QB which in turn is at the mercy of his receiving and play calling.

Mahomes or a healthy Joe Burrow instantaneously makes this a playoff team.

But as we've seen lately in KC, WRs need to catch the ball or the QB will have a harder time

Is it me or are there more drops in the NYFL these days? It seems like it.

 

[1960Pats]

Saying QB's don't have magic powers is not the same as saying a team can win with bad QB play.

It's saying the difference between elite QB's at the top is almost negligible, in exact similar conditions they'd be almost indecipherable.

QB's are the most important position in football, they're also entirely overrated by most fans.

At first when I saw that last line I thought it was a contradiction, but I understand what you meant. The problem is that in the case of Brady it's impossible to overrate what he's done in the game.

The second line makes no sense at all though. The top QBs are clearly not the same. Tom proved that too.

The only people that we know are interchangeable in the NYFL are the coaches. The myth that coaches make players was also disproved by Brady. It's clearly the other way around.

 

[RIpats88]

The patriots are probably a robust 7 and 6 with decent qb play.

If that is our "best" .500 is that good enough for fans?

I see a lot of posters taking victory laps that with decent play we would've a middling .500 team as if that is good.

Unless we are just happy building rosters that go .500 for the rest of Bills tenure. Ignoring how the league has changed because bill is "smaht for not getting elite receivers!"

 

[RIpats88]

Depends on the QB which in turn is at the mercy of his receiving and play calling.

Mahomes or a healthy Joe Burrow instantaneously makes this a playoff team.

But as we've seen lately in KC, WRs need to catch the ball or the QB will have a harder time

Its no coincidence that Burrow goes down and Browning is putting up numbers with chase/Higgins

And that Mahomes is struggling without Hill while Tua looked like a good QB once the got....Hill.

A good QB does improve things. BUT it's 11 guys on offense and all pieces must work together.

But Without an improved OL or one elite receiving talent the ceiling of this team will never be high.

How some fans can look at the offensive talent of top teams in the league and then look at ours and say we are a QB away is beyond me.