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Buffalo (h) and Miami (a) sandwiched in between 4 bad teams; NO, LV, Wash, Indy.

With winnable games with LA, Giants, jets, Pitt, Denver still to go, there is a lot of season left.

4 or 5 wins in those 6 games sets them up in decent shape to finish strong.
BB is winless against Josh McDaniels the HC FYI. I don't think this time it will be any different.
 
The pats offense has arguably the worst WR duo in the NFL. Parker & Juju have combined for 36 targets 21 receptions 189 yards 0 TDs 2 INTs 49.4 passer rating. Their OL is mediocre with no RT & their best linemen in Onwenu has regressed from last year. Stevenson is averaging 2.7 YPC. With Judon & Gonzalez out the pats don't have one probowl caliber player on the entire roster. They are 28th in the NFL with a -42 point differential.

They are one of the bad teams.
Can we trade juju for a seventh rounder and absorbing 9 million cap hit. So 5 million for 1.5 years for the next team.

Same goes for Parker . At this point I would much rather roll the dice with Boutte, Douglas and Thornton and hope 1 of them pan out. It's useless trotting out the veterans . Bourne, Henry are enough.
 
Every one of those teams score more than the Pats, except the Giants. I guessed 8 wins before the season. I've dropped that to 7, if we're lucky. Too bad we don't play ARI, CHI & CAR.

What do we get for winning? Lets just go out and compete and ball out. Protect themselves from serious injuries. The guys in the locker room don't have any confidence in Mac. There is no rallying around him. Subliminally, they told us everything when he got slammed, pushed and hardly did anyone on offense step in to have his back. He is dunski!
Need a retooling. We have some nice pieces on Defense. Offense needs a rebuild. Drake Mayo reminds me of Sam Donald, I am for JJ-McCarthy or RILEY LEONARD. Mac can't compete with the Josh Allens. If you want to stick with Mac, you will have to use all your money on skill position players and not have enough to build the rest of the team.
 
Winnable games is a term I wouldn’t associate with this team. The offense is a complete joke, they just lost their two best defenders, there’s no game I would favor them in at this point, not even against the Jets.
 
If only the results of the first 4 games dictated what will happen in the rest of the games, there would be no reason to watch
We've seen this play before: start slow; then win a few games against back-up or rookie QBs or teams w/ key players injured; then end w/ a losing record in Dec-Jan. Only constants are Mac at QB and BB at HC. It's not working.
 
We've seen this play before: start slow; then win a few games against back-up or rookie QBs or teams w/ key players injured; then end w/ a losing record in Dec-Jan. Only constants are Mac at QB and BB at HC. It's not working.
That’s why they play the games.
 
I think if the Pats somehow pull it all together - Jack Jones and Jonathan Jones come back and fill in for Gonzalez, and Gonzalez comes back in around a month - Uche steps up to help fill the void of Judon, Flowers comes off PUP and helps out as well - either Mac or Zappe discover how to be an at least average QB - Stevenson rediscovers himself and the OL solidifies in the run game - Juju gets it together and Pop sees the field more - IF the Pats can accomplish all of the above, then I could see them beating the Saints, Raiders, Colts, Giants, Chargers, Steelers, Broncos and Jets. The Commanders, maybe. Bills, Dolphins and Chiefs probably not. In this scenario I'd say a 9-8 finish is possible.

If they only achieve some of the above, probably more like 7-10. If they stay as they are and don't realize much/any improvement, maybe only 4-13.
That was 9 "ifs".
 
Agreed! The availability of Jon & Jack are still uncertain.. so I'm expecting the defense to take a step backwards. I don't understand why there isn't seemingly any attempt to get a proven vet at CB.. let me guess greedy Williams wanted 1.5 and BB said no 1.4 and that's that!


This team was absolutely loaded at defensive back...

It is not normal to lose your top 4 corners weeks into a season. Then the cherry on top was losing Judon, Godchaux and Barmore

This team cannot sustain anymore injuries... we've had an entire seasons worth of crippling injuries in the first month
 
This team was absolutely loaded at defensive back...

It is not normal to lose your top 4 corners weeks into a season. Then the cherry on top was losing Judon, Godchaux and Barmore

This team cannot sustain anymore injuries... we've had an entire seasons worth of crippling injuries in the first month
Yes!! It's like a curse... Marcus, Jack, Jon, now gonzo.. this is crazy. Can you ever remember a time we were this decimated by injury? Barmore is always hurt so no suprise.. but judon. Now that's tough!

We are done to having to rely on Wade and myles Bryant. At this point either elevate one of the JAGs they signed or gp after a proven veteran... gonzo is lost for the season torn labrum. If we loose come Sunday then I can see guys starting to think about the off season. Playoffs are out the equation right now IMO.
 
This team was absolutely loaded at defensive back...

It is not normal to lose your top 4 corners weeks into a season. Then the cherry on top was losing Judon, Godchaux and Barmore

This team cannot sustain anymore injuries... we've had an entire seasons worth of crippling injuries in the first month
I’ve never seen a team literally playing a game without their top 4 corners, just horrible luck at the position.
 
Hopefully we either entirely figure out an identity or tank.

I don’t want another middling 8-9 season that keeps coaches from being fired and QB’s from being moved on from.
 
I am going to the game in LV. Tickets were ridiculously expensive. I just hope we are getting healthy at the right time. If Shaun Wade and Myles “Away” Bryant are out there, we aren’t beating anyone.
 
It’s all about turnovers.
No. It’s about the inability to score, which is the job of the offense. That’s because we have a middling QB behind an inconsistent OL with a glaring weakness at RT for a second straight season (FU, Bill), WRs that are easily contained because they pose little vertical threat, and no X receiver that can stretch the field to open the middle.

Is Tyquan Thornton a bust?
 
I am going to the game in LV. Tickets were ridiculously expensive. I just hope we are getting healthy at the right time. If Shaun Wade and Myles “Away” Bryant are out there, we aren’t beating anyone.
I'm getting myles Away trade marked LOL.. I gave him that name.. @captain stone . Thayis great LV has a beautiful stadium. I hope you enjoy yourself! However BB is a very intelligent man he must know those 2 at CB isn't going to cut it!
 
No. It’s about the inability to score, which is the job of the offense. That’s because we have a middling QB behind an inconsistent OL with a glaring weakness at RT for a second straight season (FU, Bill), WRs that are easily contained because they pose little vertical threat, and no X receiver that can stretch the field to open the middle.

Is Tyquan Thornton a bust?
We have lost games because of turnovers.

It is way too early to judge Thornton career.
 
I predicted 9-8. After Judon's likely season ender and Gonzalez being out for a while, an underperforming OL and Juju, a bad running game and Jones looking subpar anyway I think that prediction is looking a little optimistic...
 
No. It’s about the inability to score, which is the job of the offense. That’s because we have a middling QB behind an inconsistent OL with a glaring weakness at RT for a second straight season (FU, Bill), WRs that are easily contained because they pose little vertical threat, and no X receiver that can stretch the field to open the middle.

Is Tyquan Thornton a bust?
Is why I asked the question? Why isn't Douglas playing more. All he does is make plays when given the opportunity. So far juju is apparently hurt he's too good a player to perform the way he is. Parker is washed. KB is the only one who fights. I'm sure he probably wishes he was still in SF right now under Shanahan. Why isn't Boutte involved? All he did was make plays week 1.. is BB still holding him being out of bounds against him. Let's be honest the O line sucks right now. We have no running game whatsoever.. on 3rd and 1 why isn't Montgomery more involved? He's the only change up RB we have on the roster. On Thornton.. the only thing I can hope he provides is someone to carry coverage and stretch the defense. Other than that low expectations IMO.
 
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