(Edited Title:) Writer thinks Zappe is winning the QB "battle"?

[Triumph]

Crabgrass?!? Really? If he cannot see over crabgrass, he really is too short.

The world is against Zappe.

 

[Ian]

The world is against Zappe.

I can’t think of anyone who is actively rooting for the kid to fail.

 

[Ring 6]

I'd put him in the top third. Not a lot of "great" backups out there currently, given a lot of the shake ups in recent years. That in and of itself has been interesting when you look at how a lot of guys who have risen and fallen.

I'd say Zappe's probably better than a high percentage of the #2s out there right now. Again, Taylor Heineke is the guy who keeps popping in my head there. But without looking at every name, aside from who I mentioned, I'm not sure who else would rank ahead of him.

It’s a tough task. Because Heineken for example has shown a level of competence over a lot more reps than Zappe. But being more known reduces the chance that he could be a hidden star.
I’d say in that example Zappe hasn’t shown me he is as good as Heineke but he also could possibly be better, so a chance at better than blah is more enticing then blah but could also be worse.

Judging Zappes okay so far I say game 1, meh, he was a rookie being held back with 15 pass attempts but didn’t throw up on his shoes. Game 2, again, limited but ok. Game 3 was good. Game 4 was awful.
A good first showing for a 4th round rookie but a long way to go to be a capable starting QB. The best part about Zappe is hope.

 

[Tunescribe]

@Tunescribe knock it off.

I'll make it official. Here you go:

Are you getting hit with a bunch of drive by's?

Nah, he's just another Mac hater with a guilty conscience.

 

[Triumph]

I can’t think of anyone who is actively rooting for the kid to fail.

It's so ridiculous.

First off, the Pats QBs are wearing red no contact jerseys. The NE defense is not coming after anybody like real NFL action. Some practices were with no pads at all. That has not prevented the Yahoo's from drooling over how well things are going thus far.

 

[Tunescribe]

It's so ridiculous.

Just get rid of the bathroom mirror. Then tell your sister no more back rubs and start doing your own laundry.

 

[RIpats88]

The media is trying to hard to fabricate this "QB battle!" they talked about it so much on felger and mazz when I tuned in for 10 minutes.

but fact remains Zappe JUST took his first snaps with the first team yesterday. and it was only for a couple plays. There is no real QB battle if one guy is consistently playing with/against the #1's and the other guy is with the #2's.

Until something changes in season Mac is your QB#1 and Zappe is your backup

 

[Triumph]

The media is trying to hard to fabricate this "QB battle!" they talked about it so much on felger and mazz when I tuned in for 10 minutes.

but fact remains Zappe JUST took his first snaps with the first team yesterday. and it was only for a couple plays. There is no real QB battle if one guy is consistently playing with/against the #1's and the other guy is with the #2's.

Until something changes in season Mac is your QB#1 and Zappe is your backup

Its already over.

Zappe is 2 inches shorter and cant see over the DL which is 2 inches taller than Jones.

 

[Triumph]

 

[Clonamery]

Heed his advice @RIpats88. If anyone knows what it's like to be a couple inches short of average, it's @Triumph.

 

[sb1]

The media is trying to hard to fabricate this "QB battle!" they talked about it so much on felger and mazz when I tuned in for 10 minutes.

but fact remains Zappe JUST took his first snaps with the first team yesterday. and it was only for a couple plays. There is no real QB battle if one guy is consistently playing with/against the #1's and the other guy is with the #2's.

Until something changes in season Mac is your QB#1 and Zappe is your backup

Agreed. And like any QB2 he should take at least a few snaps with the starting offense. Wouldn't want him to enter a game if needed completely cold never working with them at all.

I wonder how many Zappe lovers still think he ought to be the Patriots starter if the Patriots signed Lamar Jackson this offseason. My guess is zero.

 

[sb1]

It’s a tough task. Because Heineken for example has shown a level of competence over a lot more reps than Zappe. But being more known reduces the chance that he could be a hidden star.
I’d say in that example Zappe hasn’t shown me he is as good as Heineke but he also could possibly be better, so a chance at better than blah is more enticing then blah but could also be worse.

Judging Zappes okay so far I say game 1, meh, he was a rookie being held back with 15 pass attempts but didn’t throw up on his shoes. Game 2, again, limited but ok. Game 3 was good. Game 4 was awful.
A good first showing for a 4th round rookie but a long way to go to be a capable starting QB. The best part about Zappe is hope.

Yeah that's how I see it. 1 good game out of 4. 3 games where he didn't outright suck. That's fine for a backup. Totally unrelated but in that 1 "good game" I believe his passing numbers also led the league that week in YAC by his recievers. The one to Jonnu was the big one.

Cooper Rush and Mike White also had better stretches in their time as starters than Zappe did. But by keeping Zappe on the bench as QB2 everyone knows they're missing out on a future superstar...because Tom Brady came off the bench as a 6th round pick so everyone knows history gonna repeat itself!11! Or something. Lol

 

[SammyBlueCat]

1) keep an open mind
2) even if the outcome is not what you want, the Patriots NEED a quality back-up qb

 

[Triumph]

Heed his advice @RIpats88. If anyone knows what it's like to be a couple inches short of average, it's @Triumph.

You should know sand paper lips.

 

[Ian]

Its already over.

Zappe is 2 inches shorter and cant see over the DL which is 2 inches taller than Jones.

His release is still too low, and it is something he'll have to keep working on. At the same time, Zappe's a second-year player and he's still miles ahead of other guys we've seen at this point and he's had a solid start. So aside from that, not much to say negative about him. He's been playing well so far.

As I said, I’m curious to see how he performs these next few weeks in the preseason games. In theory, he should light it up compared to who he’ll be facing.

 

[Rob0729]

It is PFF, so you gotta take their numbers with a grain of salt. But they say that Mac Jones has the third fewest INTs that are deemed the QB's fault with 38.5%. That means they say 61.5% of his INTs were not his fault.

Again, I am puting the caveat that it is PFF.

 

[Ian]

Its already over.

Zappe is 2 inches shorter and cant see over the DL which is 2 inches taller than Jones.

 

[Ian]

Doing some digging - Drew Brees' was pretty good from that standpoint - not that I'm an expert by any means but for the people who have brought his name up:



Zappe can get there. He's just not there yet.

 

[captain stone]

It's so ridiculous.

First off, the Pats QBs are wearing red no contact jerseys. The NE defense is not coming after anybody like real NFL action. Some practices were with no pads at all. That has not prevented the Yahoo's from drooling over how well things are going thus far.

Yep.

The - or at least my - big question concerning Mac is: How well does he handle pressure/adversity?

The answer thus far in his Patriots career is: Not well, at all.

He never, Ever faced Any of that in college, or anywhere else in his tennis-playing, pre-teen-model life until he arrived in Foxborough.

His 2020 Alabama team would've wiped the floor with the 2021 & '22 NEP, either with or without him under Center. Fact.

Playing well in TC is > not playing well in TC, but that's as far as I go with that praise.

There is also no QB competition or controversy: Mac hasn't done anything to lose his #1 job, and Zappy hasn't done enough to take it from him either.

 

[captain stone]

It is PFF, so you gotta take their numbers with a grain of salt. But they say that Mac Jones has the third fewest INTs that are deemed the QB's fault with 38.5%. That means they say 61.5% of his INTs were not his fault.

Again, I am puting the caveat that it is PFF.

Yeah I don't know about that one either... Seems like at least half of his INTs were "WTFs?"