Patriots Lose Two OTAs Due To Rule Violation

[Pape]

@Pape

My wonder is who dropped the dime?.. 20 mins past the meeting time frame...

If that was any other coach would have slid.. must've been a veteran I'd imagine.. lol

NFLPA independent observer from what ive read

 

[DaBruinz]

@Pape

My wonder is who dropped the dime?.. 20 mins past the meeting time frame...

If that was any other coach would have slid.. must've been a veteran I'd imagine.. lol

It was stated that it was an NFLPA observer. Not anyone affiliated with the team.

 

[Real fan 02]

It was stated that it was an NFLPA observer. Not anyone affiliated with the team.

Oh ok wow! Thanks for that information.

 

[Zuma]

It was stated that it was an NFLPA observer. Not anyone affiliated with the team.

Idk…not sure I believe that 100%. i think it’s a disgruntled millennial having issues with Judge’s douche-baggery.

 

[Brotherblues]

It was stated that it was an NFLPA observer. Not anyone affiliated with the team.

Is that something that exists though? Guys unaffiliated with the team walking around the facilities with a "NFLPA OBSERVER" badge and getting access to all the meetings?

 

[Pape]

Is that something that exists though? Guys unaffiliated with the team walking around the facilities with a "NFLPA OBSERVER" badge and getting access to all the meetings?

to monitor OTAs and practices for violations? i believe it

 

[TBR]

Joe Judge reportedly at center of Patriots' offseason rule violation

This is a long thread already so sorry if someone already added this link

Patriots coaches who go to New York always seem to end up screwing the Patriots in overblown "cheating" scandals it seems.

 

[Real fan 02]

Is that something that exists though? Guys unaffiliated with the team walking around the facilities with a "NFLPA OBSERVER" badge and getting access to all the meetings?

Yeah.. I believe there is. It became more apparent a few years ago during training camps across the league. As the 2 a days were so grueling it had to be changed ,and rules implemented enforced. So NFL and NFLPA visited teams across the league during camp. I'm sure it has to be in the CBA

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Idk…not sure I believe that 100%. i think it’s a disgruntled millennial having issues with Judge’s douche-baggery.

You realized Millennials are in their 30’s now right?

 

[Zuma]

You realized Millennials are in their 30’s now right?

Ok. The newer version then.

 

[UGAPatsfan]

Ahh yes…Gen z

 

[upstater1]

@Pape

My wonder is who dropped the dime?.. 20 mins past the meeting time frame...

If that was any other coach would have slid.. must've been a veteran I'd imagine.. lol

Sigh, people, why not read Mike Reiss' piece? This happened at rookie camp right after the draft. Stop with the rumor mongering of Boston sports media. Read Reiss instead.

 

[upstater1]

to monitor OTAs and practices for violations? i believe it

It wasn't for OTAs!!! It was from rookie camp!

 

[DaBruinz]

Is that something that exists though? Guys unaffiliated with the team walking around the facilities with a "NFLPA OBSERVER" badge and getting access to all the meetings?

I'm not sure how much access they have to meetings, but more than one article mentioned that it was NFLPA observer and that this was a common thing.

 

[Pape]

It wasn't for OTAs!!! It was from rookie camp!

6 or one half dozen, take your pick... its all the same thing...

 

[upstater1]

6 or one half dozen, take your pick... its all the same thing...

No, it's not the same. People are saying 30+ year old veterans are ratting out Judge because they hate him.

So it's not the same if this was rookie camp.

This is just the typical Boston media winding people up, knee-jerk reactions to incorrect rumors.

 

[Pape]

I'm not sure how much access they have to meetings, but more than one article mentioned that it was NFLPA observer and that this was a common thing.

they dont actually have to be in a meeting..."hey Siri, start a timer" or "Hey Siri, whats on the official Patriots schedule today" ... that all it takes in some cases... i guess one could say play a game with stupid rules, win stupid prizes...

 

[Pape]

No, it's not the same. People are saying 30+ year old veterans are ratting out Judge because they hate him.

So it's not the same if this was rookie camp.

This is just the typical Boston media winding people up, knee-jerk reactions to incorrect rumors.

but it is... doesn't matter what you call it... rookie camp, otas, mini-camp... whatever... or who complained, if anyone actually did, is meaningless...

Its a mildly interesting story only because there's nothing else going on... its only 2 otas... so a little bit of perspective is needed here...

And please, if its true and not just made up BS because everyone wants to dog on Joe Judge (which is fine- everyone needs a boogieman i guess), point me to a credible source that states this was a retaliatory reaction by a player(s) against Joe Judge... everything else Ive read states otherwise...

 

[Kdo5]

Just an FYI:

Patriots OTA punishment goes beyond lost practices

The Patriots' punishment for an offseason meeting violation is going to cost the team - and coach Bill Belichick - more than two practices.

985thesportshub.com

"Per Bedard, the NFLPA complaint filed to the league reads, “Patriots’ Special Teams Coach Joe Judge directed special teams players to be at the Club’s facility longer than the maximum of four hours permitted during Phase Two of the Club’s program.”

“It’s noted that Belichick, on April 19, forwarded to all coaches – Judge is named – the reminder about the four-hour window by the management council,” Bedard adds.

Reiss added that “the complaint was specific to meetings/workshops that weren’t on the official schedule of the four-hour workday sent to players for May 1, May 2 and May 4.”

It's on JUDGE since he's cited SPECIFICALLY..

So it’s not exactly Bill’s fault. But Bill has to know this guy is an absolutely shmuck. He basically promoted him after being one of the guys who rode this offense into the ground last year.

Unsurprisingly he is already screwing things up.

 

[cmasspatsfan]

Jeff Howe wrote that an NFLPA rep was in the building, noticed the meeting posted on the schedule and told the team that could give off the impression that the meeting was mandatory. The team then self reported the violation to the NFL.