Damar Hamlin Updates

[Steve102]

Been thinking of having a political debate.

This seems like the perfect thread to do it in.

When you gif search for "for fu*ks sake" this is the first one that comes up. So here ya go, my man.

 

[reflexblue]

That's very encouraging given all the ominous talk about brain damage.

I don't believe it. Last night he was on his stomach on a ventilator and still sedated. Its hard to believe that he went from that condition to being up and walking around.

 

[Palm Beach Pats Fan]

We would know it if he had even regained consciousness by now, I would think. It hasn't happened.

 

[crawhammer]

He's obviously not walking around. Who said that?

 

[Kasmir]

He's obviously not walking around. Who said that?

This:

Colts safety Rodney Thomas was a high school teammate of Damar Hamlin, and drove to Cincinnati to visit him in the hospital. “He’s doing good,” Thomas said. “He’s building up strength so he can walk out of that room.” Has no doubt he’ll pull through. “I 100% believe that.”

Read that carefully and it sounds like wishful thinking that could still apply to him remaining n a coma.

 

[crawhammer]

This:

Read that carefully and it sounds like wishful thinking that could still apply to him remaining n a coma.

That's a bit odd but he doesn't say Hamlin's actually walking right now. The first step is breathing independently. Walking isn't even on the radar yet.

 

[jdlboot14]

Just saw Taylor's comment on what McDermott said on the field - "I need to be in the hospital with Damar, not coaching this game".
That's really impressive.
Makes me more peaved at some of the ex-players (now talking heads) that have tried to make this into a social-reform issue, as if the "NFL" is just a cyborg out to get them, and players aren't cared about. It's made up of a lot of coaches, gm's and owners that feel, and act like Sean. And the players are being given a chance to become the 0.01% of the richest people in the world. Everything has its accepted risk. But, don't compare playing a dangerous game to risking your life for the country. All the young men & women in the military who literally face death regularly make next to nothing for their sacrifice, but no one is crying for them on tv. Sorry for the political statement, but its truth.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I had read about this, but did they seriously play on?



Obviously that's before my time but not sure if there's anyone in here who knows more about it.

It's not entirely clear to me what happened, but here's an article that notes he collapsed late in the fourth quarter. It might be paywalled.

HUGHES SUFFERED A HEART ATTACK (Published 1971)

autopsy shows that Detroit player C Hughes suffered heart attack that was unrelated to playing and could have occurred at any time; ins and other benefits for Hughes family noted

www.nytimes.com

 

[mgcolby]

Bart Scott was being a clown

Was?

 

[Nikolai]

Just saw Taylor's comment on what McDermott said on the field - "I need to be in the hospital with Damar, not coaching this game".
That's really impressive.
Makes me more peaved at some of the ex-players (now talking heads) that have tried to make this into a social-reform issue, as if the "NFL" is just a cyborg out to get them, and players aren't cared about. It's made up of a lot of coaches, gm's and owners that feel, and act like Sean. And the players are being given a chance to become the 0.01% of the richest people in the world. Everything has its accepted risk. But, don't compare playing a dangerous game to risking your life for the country. All the young men & women in the military who literally face death regularly make next to nothing for their sacrifice, but no one is crying for them on tv. Sorry for the political statement, but its truth.

A funny(?) sidenote, but on my first deployment to Afghanistan as a dirty lower-enlisted, we figured out that, given the hours we worked and our pay, most of us were making less than $5/hour, less than most fast food joints at the time.

Then again, we were Army, a gnarly bunch...our opposable thumbs could barely handle simple tasks. I doubt any of us could flip burgers without dropping them, and I'm sure one of us would have had third degree burns within the first shift on the deep fryer

Thinking back on it, maybe we WERE paid appropriately

 

[Ian]

 

[aluminum seats]

This:

Read that carefully and it sounds like wishful thinking that could still apply to him remaining n a coma.

1000%. He’s just saying generic stuff about he’s a strong guy/he’s a fighter/he’s getting stronger. It means nothing.

 

[Chevy]

Was Costco having a special?

 

[Free_Pacman]

This:

Read that carefully and it sounds like wishful thinking that could still apply to him remaining n a coma.

Yes, there’s exactly a zero percent chance he’s walking around or even extubated. The fact that they had to prone him (I.e. lay him on his stomach) mostly likely means he has ARDS- essentially a massive inflammatory reaction in the lungs to a toxic stimulus. In the setting of a recent cardiac arrest, my first thought would be aspiration would be that inciting stimulus.

He’s almost certainly not out of a “coma.” After a hypoxic brain event (when the brain goes without oxygen), typically patients will stay DEEPLY sedated a couple of days to essentially “rest the brain”.

Over the next day or so, they (the ICU) will mostly likely turn off sedation and try to get a better sense of his brain function and if any meaningful recovery is possible.

Regardless, the situation appears to me to be extremely grave, but fingers crossed he can have some meaningful recovery.

 

[Tunescribe]

I had read about this, but did they seriously play on?



Obviously that's before my time but not sure if there's anyone in here who knows more about it.

Ian, I posted about this in the "NFL other games" thread. I watched that game live (on TV) with my dad; Bears at Detroit -- Oct. 24, 1971. Hughes collapsed and was attended by trainers/doctors on the field before hurriedly being rushed off on a wheeled gurney. My dad, a coach, said, "This doesn't look good." Up to that point in league history an incident like this WAS unprecedented and I recall how scary it felt seeing what can only be described as panicked first responders.

They didn't appear to have an ambulance on site the moment it happened, or did and couldn't get it on the field. The game continued and Hughes passed in the hospital 50 minutes after it ended. I will assume the sad distinction of being the only person here to see both that and the Hamlin incident occur in real time.

Edit: I forgot to add that Hughes was a wide receiver and caught one pass in that game (a 32-yarder per profootballreference.com). I thought he might've been hit by **** Butkus directly before passing out on the field but could be wrong.

 

[Jlaff]

Sounds like you let some wrongthink speculation creep in with that tweet Ian. A medical professional saying commotio cordis only a "'possible' explanation"?

Come on everyone, let's say it together:

 

[PatsWSB47]

Sounds like you let some wrongthink speculation creep in with that tweet Ian. A medical professional saying commotio cordis only a "'possible' explanation"?

Come on everyone, let's say it together:

He didn't want to go into a cause but he didn't name anything else but commotio cordis as a possible explanation did he? Obviously they have to look for other possible contributing factors but ts not wrongthink speculation. From what I've seen reported so far, most medical people are suspecting it. I'd heard of it in the past and even described it early in this thread. I work in the medical field along with my wife. In fact I worked in the CCU today and the consensus was it was probably cordis with everyone talking about it the break room.

 

[Ian]

Sounds like you let some wrongthink speculation creep in with that tweet Ian. A medical professional saying commotio cordis only a "'possible' explanation"?

Come on everyone, let's say it together:

That was a Tweet from the NFL's chief medical officer giving his thoughts. That was the extent of any thought I took in posting it when it popped up in the Twitter column.

 

[VectorPrime]

literally every single person who uses the “NPC” meme is an insufferable conspiratorial piece of shi.t who never sees a dumb twitter meme they won’t immediately retweet or a crazy YouTube video that they don’t actually watch but since it has a crazy title they’ll share it and the irony of it all is completely lost on them. And I mean literally every single one of them.

 

[VectorPrime]

“QUESTION AUTHORITY!” i scream as I make the 146,863 “like” on a tweet with a low res .jpg of a Despicable Me Minion that’s “Just Asking Questions” about the Jews