NFL News OT: Dolphins Owner Steven Ross Suspended, Picks Forfeited, For Tampering With Brady, Payton

[Pape]

Revisionist history here. It’s very well documented that after the his 2017 MVP year he wanted a multi year deal, got a 1 year. After the 2018 SB he wanted what the Drew Brees deal, didn’t get it. He got 1 year. Then going into 2019 he knew he was only going to keep getting 1 year, incentive deals so he asked for the out clause. If Belichick and Kraft wanted Brady here, all they had to do was offer him a multi year deal which they never did.

and if he wanted to be here, all he had to do was call foxboro after the bucks offer, and say 2/50 is the offer...

he didnt.

 

[Ring 6]

Bud, why was he talking to Miami if he had no interest in going there lol.

Having interest and choosing the team are not the same thing. I would imagine the 5-11 record had something to do with it.

 

[Ring 6]

Stop doing the clown show routine. BB in 2017 and 2018 had the 2nd year voidable deals. You really think in 2019 with Brady another year older BB was all of a sudden offering the 2nd year as guaranteed? You really can't be that gullible. The Pats leaked to 2 year deal to Howe to save face, but gave no context to that deal.

Who said it was guaranteed? Why would Brady need it guaranteed? Did he think he would be cut? If he is scared of making it 2 years shouldn’t the team me.
Ironic that you call someone gullible based upon you creating the idea that the story was leaked. Facts that don’t fit your narrative are fake, and everyone believing the facts is gullible. Are you a politician?

 

[Boomer B]

and if he wanted to be here, all he had to do was call foxboro after the bucks offer, and say 2/50 is the offer...

he didnt.

What a load of BS. He had been negotiating with them for a new deal each year from 2017 on. He had always wanted the multi-year commitment. Kraft and BB knew that and never gave it to him. So now after 3 contract negotiations where he couldn't get a multi-year deal he was supposed to go back to them and say "hey, it's a multi year deal I got from the Bucs". The Pats had 3 years to do it and didn't. Then when he leaves they try to save face and tell the fans "well, he didn't come to us to match".

 

[Ring 6]

Fact is there are no reports that show 2/50 fully guaranteed. Which you said happened. You take the report as fact, but not the actual analysis in the actual report from the reporter? hhaha, who is also the one who reported that Brady wanted Multi year deals after 17 and 18 but was turned down? So odd that your story doesnt come close to lining up

I never said anything about fully guaranteed.
Again you make things up and attribute them to me so you can act as if you are right.
You are doing a great job debating that make believe person you are making up arguments and attributing to them. In the real world, not so much.

When did I ever say Brady didn’t want multi year deals? I’m sure he did. What’s your point?

 

[All3Phases]

Who said it was guaranteed? Why would Brady need it guaranteed? Did he think he would be cut? If he is scared of making it 2 years shouldn’t the team me.
Ironic that you call someone gullible based upon you creating the idea that the story was leaked. Facts that don’t fit your narrative are fake, and everyone believing the facts is gullible. Are you a politician?

You said the Patriots matched the Bucs offer. This isnt a matching offer

 

[Froob]

Having interest and choosing the team are not the same thing. I would imagine the 5-11 record had something to do with it.

He was talking to them multiple times through out the season lol. If it was truly about winning, it would have been down and over with quickly because Miami had one of the worst rosters in the NFL.

 

[Ring 6]

What a load of BS. He had been negotiating with them for a new deal each year from 2017 on. He had always wanted the multi-year commitment. Kraft and BB knew that and never gave it to him. So now after 3 contract negotiations where he couldn't get a multi-year deal he was supposed to go back to them and say "hey, it's a multi year deal I got from the Bucs". The Pats had 3 years to do it and didn't. Then when he leaves they try to save face and tell the fans "well, he didn't come to us to match".

So your argument is IF HE WANTED TO STAY he would have said I’m not going to let you match because I hate you for your earlier offers.
Genius.

 

[Boomer B]

Who said it was guaranteed? Why would Brady need it guaranteed? Did he think he would be cut? If he is scared of making it 2 years shouldn’t the team me.
Ironic that you call someone gullible based upon you creating the idea that the story was leaked. Facts that don’t fit your narrative are fake, and everyone believing the facts is gullible. Are you a politician?

Maybe because after the first year of the 2017 and 2018 deals he had to renegotiate? The 2nd year were dummy years for cap purposes. He didn't see those 2nd years. It's not that hard to see.

 

[All3Phases]

I never said anything about fully guaranteed.
Again you make things up and attribute them to me so you can act as if you are right.
You are doing a great job debating that make believe person you are making up arguments and attributing to them. In the real world, not so much.

When did I ever say Brady didn’t want multi year deals? I’m sure he did. What’s your point?

The patriots offered the same money as Tampa---Ring 6.

Here is the first thing you said. The money wasnt the same, as explained to you.

I cant stress this enough, no they didnt

Yes they did and they offered to match.

Then you said the above. Again, where is the match?

 

[Ring 6]

You said the Patriots matched the Bucs offer. This isnt a matching offer

I did not say that.

 

[All3Phases]

I did not say that.

Read above post

 

[Ring 6]

The patriots offered the same money as Tampa---Ring 6.

Here is the first thing you said. The money wasnt the same, as explained to you.


Yes they did and they offered to match.

Then you said the above. Again, where is the match?

50 million is 50 million

They offered to match and Brady said no thanks don’t bother. Directly to Kraft, in his home.

 

[Ring 6]

Read above post

You should read it. Because it doesn’t say they matched it.
It says they offered to and Brady said no, I’m gone.

 

[All3Phases]

50 million is 50 million

They offered to match and Brady said no thanks don’t bother. Directly to Kraft, in his home.

50 million is not 50 million. One was 50 million in his pocket today and the other was not. Understand guarantees, youve been exposed thoroughly

Revis signed here for 2/32 mil. How much did he make and how long did he play here for? 32 mil is 32 mil right?

 

[All3Phases]

You should read it. Because it doesn’t say they matched it.
It says they offered to and Brady said no, I’m gone.

SHow me the offer, its that simple

 

[Boomer B]

So your argument is IF HE WANTED TO STAY he would have said I’m not going to let you match because I hate you for your earlier offers.
Genius.

I could probably get my dog to understand this easier, and my dog is an idiot.

He went through the process of trying to get a mutli year deal for 3 straight negotiations. He couldn't get it. Pretty clear that BB was never going to give it to him. So for the 2019 contract he got the out clause and at that point knew there was close to 0% chance he'd be a Patriot in 2020. He didn't need to give the Pats the chance to match the Bucs offer as they had 3 straight years to give him that deal. Kraft and BB chose not to. Plain and simple.

 

[Ring 6]

Read above post

You aren’t too good with this English stuff are you?

50 million is not 50 million. One was 50 million in his pocket today and the other was not. Understand guarantees, youve been exposed thoroughly

Revis signed here for 2/32 mil. How much did he make and how long did he play here for? 32 mil is 32 mil right?

2 years and 50 million vs 2 years and 50 million is literally by definition in the English language THE SAME MONEY.

 

[All3Phases]

You aren’t too good with this English stuff are you?

2 years and 50 million vs 2 years and 50 million is literally by definition in the English language THE SAME MONEY.

This is a pathetic attempt at understanding contracts. Lets use an example. Revis signed here in 2014, the contract was 2years 32 million dollars. How much of that was made and how long did he play here for? 32=32 right?

 

[Bill Lee]

What a load of BS. He had been negotiating with them for a new deal each year from 2017 on. He had always wanted the multi-year commitment. Kraft and BB knew that and never gave it to him. So now after 3 contract negotiations where he couldn't get a multi-year deal he was supposed to go back to them and say "hey, it's a multi year deal I got from the Bucs". The Pats had 3 years to do it and didn't. Then when he leaves they try to save face and tell the fans "well, he didn't come to us to match".

It's all BS, but since people seem to want to swim round and round in the fecal soup....

He was out of here once he had the deal with no voidable years and no franchise tag.

The house was on the market, the wife was out looking for new schools for the kids.

Oh, and it turns out he was meeting multiple times with a division rival while still playing for our team.

The offer to match leaked to the press is indeed face saving BS.

It was over, both sides knew it, both sides had their reasons.