Official 2022 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Guts]

Ridiculous overpayment.

QB market is crazy

 

[RicoG]

I hope Rudolph's not toast, and I hope the Bucs aren't done looking for TEs..

Brate didn't look good last year either. Rudolph is more an insurance policy for a Brate decline. Still crossing my fingers for Gronk.

 

[venecol]

I hope Rudolph's not toast, and I hope the Bucs aren't done looking for TEs..

He was graded 35 out of 70 TEs having played for one of the worse offenses in the league last season. His game will be elevated playing with the GOAT. He's a veteran player that has great hands, can block, and knows how to read defenses. He's better than OJ Howard and Brate, so it should help a lot. Obviously, there's no replacing Gronk but it's better than them going out there w/ Brate & a rook.

 

[RicoG]

I would think Wilson is clearly ahead of Stafford and Ryan.

Ryan has made the playoffs in 6/14 seasons. Stafford has in 4/13 or 4/11 if you give him mulligans for his first 2 injury plagued seasons. Given that 6/16 teams made the playoffs for most of their careers is that really HOF worthy, when you are barely making the platoffs more than an average team(or in Staffords case barely hitting average)?

Whereas Wilson is at 8/10.

Agree that Wilson is ahead but Stafford has several years left to catch up and surpass him. Wilson has been on the decline for a couple years now.

Ryan is like Rivers, haven't accomplished much except racking up the stats.

Since QBs can't be touched, extending their longetivity, and increasing their stats, I wonder if all these QBs who start for 15 years plus will be making the HOF even if they don't accomplish much. The Hall will be littered with QBs.

 

[RicoG]

QB market is crazy

I guess a proven choker is worth being the 2nd highest paid NFL player as long as your a young in vogue QB.

 

[Deus Irae]

Bucs rookie TE Cade Otton cleared for practice - ProFootballTalk

 

[VectorPrime]

Never retire. Ever.

 

[amfootball]

Never retire. Ever.

He realistically could go another 3 years. My guess is he signs a 2 year deal with the Fins.

 

[sb1]

Never retire. Ever.

Florio loves to complain about anything.

Madden makes Tom Brady its top-rated quarterback

Most people who craft lists of the best quarterbacks in the NFL would not put 44-year-old Tom Brady at the top of the heap.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Florio loves to complain about anything.

Madden makes Tom Brady its top-rated quarterback

Most people who craft lists of the best quarterbacks in the NFL would not put 44-year-old Tom Brady at the top of the heap.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Yeah...it's unreasonable to think a guy who just finished second in MVP voting, 2nd team all pro, led the league with 43 TDs and second most passing yards ever, was the best passer in the league by most advanced stats and by PFF grade, had the most big time throws and fewest turnover worthy throw pct, led the team to a 13-4 record despite lots of injuries, and who came back from a 27-3 playoff deficit to the eventual SB Champs, should be the highest ranked. Totally unreasonable. Let's debate over which guy it should be, the one with the historic choke job in the AFCCG, or the one with his trademark choke job in the NFCDG.

 

[Deus Irae]

Florio loves to complain about anything.

Madden makes Tom Brady its top-rated quarterback

Most people who craft lists of the best quarterbacks in the NFL would not put 44-year-old Tom Brady at the top of the heap.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Florio's (non) argument is so asinine that he should be retiring from the business as penance.

 

[Deus Irae]

The defensive lineman agreed to terms with the team on Friday night, Tom Pelissero of NFL Media reports.

That leaves only fourth-rounder Cade Otton without a deal as six other draft selections previously signed their four-year rookie deals.

Logan Hall agrees to terms with Bucs - ProFootballTalk

 

[venecol]

 

[Guts]

Florio loves to complain about anything.

Madden makes Tom Brady its top-rated quarterback

Most people who craft lists of the best quarterbacks in the NFL would not put 44-year-old Tom Brady at the top of the heap.

profootballtalk.nbcsports.com

Haha Brady is considered a top 3 QB by the majority of football media. The order is I guess up to the person's taste but it's always Brady/Mahomes/Rodgers

 

[amfootball]

Has Brady ever been ranked #1 on Madden before?

 

[Guts]

Has Brady ever been ranked #1 on Madden before?

2007, 2008, 2011, 2016, 2017, 2018, and this season

 

[VectorPrime]

Has Brady ever been ranked #1 on Madden before?

Yes, both going into the season and also adjusted during the season. You might not expect which seasons though because he was a 99 in Madden 10 released just prior to the 2009 season and uh, yeah that wasn’t so great.

 

[Guts]

What's amazing to me is that Tom has been a top 3 QB almost every year since his 2003 season


2003- Brady/Manning/McNair
2004- Brady/Manning/Culpepper
2005- Brady/Manning/Hasselbeck
2006- Brady/Manning/Brees
2007- Brady/Manning/Favre
2008-Injury
2009- I guess he wasn't top 3 this season
2010- Brady/Manning/Brees
2011- Brady/Rodgers/Brees
2012-Brady/Manning/Rodgers
2013-Brady/Manning/Brees
2014- Brady/Manning/Rodgers
2015- Brady/Newton/Rodgers
2016- Brady/Ryan/Rodgers
2017- Brady/Wentz/Brees
2018- Brady/Mahomes/Brees
2019- Brady/Mahomes/Lamar
2020- Brady/Mahomes/Rodgers
2021- Brady/Mahomes/Rodgers

 

[amfootball]

Pretty impressive to be #1 just 11 days shy of turning 45. Florio didn't even make argument, just cited is age which is absurd. Brady was the best QB in the game last year.

 

[Deus Irae]

Pretty impressive to be #1 just 11 days shy of turning 45. Florio didn't even make argument, just cited is age which is absurd. Brady was the best QB in the game last year.

Florio is great at harvesting other people's news and posting a link to it. He's an aggregator who adds commentary to his links, and that's fine. But, when he and his crew stray from that, they almost always expose themselves for the circus clowns that they are.