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Dante Scarnecchia on what Mac needs


Maybe they need a better qb man.

he puts some more air on that Hyde int, that’sa touchdown early in the game
Man that is called learning.
The kid outperformed any expectation we had when he got drafted. He got a full season of hands on including a playoff game in the frigid cold.
If Hyde does not make a great play then that was a TD. In the future he reads that safety and looks him off to keep it man to man or does not throw in that direction. That is called learning.
With another year of engulfing the playbook and getting stronger and hopefully a go to guy at receiver we will have the QB we need.
If in your mind one bad play gets you thrown to the curb. Then I hope you live by the same set of rules
 
Berrios benefited from a ton of garbage yards. The Jets are so far behind the opposing team lets Berrios run around for a 5 to 8 yard pickup. If you watch Berrios you will see that his routes are not crisp, and he is not fast. No idea why anyone would want Berrios - he is the exact opposite of what we want.
I mean, have you seen the Patriots’ WRs?
 
Where do you say Meyers and Bourne operate best slot or wideout serious question ?

Meyers seems like a natural SWR, but I don't think he has the NFL-caliber quicks for the job that TB, WW, Edelman & Amendola had... Bourne looks quicker than Meyers anyway, so I hope he spends the off-season watching film of those aforementioned four and that Bill & McD & Troy work with him there to see if a similar relationship can be developed...
 
I was expecting to see JJ much more often after White was IRed and nobody else was brought into the building... Wonder if it's more than just blocking issues... Either way I think he's a longer shot to stick next season than he was this season.

He's a scat-back type, fun to watch. The thing with third-down backs is they MUST be capable blockers vs. blitzes as well as good receivers. Taylor is only 5-foot-6, 185 lbs. Again, I'm just guessing he can't block well enough for that third-down role and the Harris-Stevenson duo dominates otherwise with Bolden doing some of the third-down duty. Bolden is steady but they need someone more explosive in the backfield for third down.
 
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I think a big problem is Harris, Stevenson and Boldin are probably clearly ahead of him in the RB department so it's kinda hard for him to get spots called for him.

They are, but there were games where either Omen or Rham was inactive and JJ still wasn't given any work...
 
Man that is called learning.
The kid outperformed any expectation we had when he got drafted. He got a full season of hands on including a playoff game in the frigid cold.
If Hyde does not make a great play then that was a TD. In the future he reads that safety and looks him off to keep it man to man or does not throw in that direction. That is called learning.
With another year of engulfing the playbook and getting stronger and hopefully a go to guy at receiver we will have the QB we need.
If in your mind one bad play gets you thrown to the curb. Then I hope you live by the same set of rules
No. No.

Every mistake by every player in any year is a learning opportunity. He ain't different.

You don't get to baby the quarterback. He made a mistake at a CRUCIAL point in the game, in an area that folks have REPEATEDLY pointed out he's deficient in. That's not misreading a defense. It's not making some social media gaffe with a new spotlight on you. That's not failing to practice or condition accordingly.

It was 7-0, on FIRST AND 10...

We make that, they say oh **** the pats are slinging it. We miss it, its 2nd and ten nearly halfway down the field and we just threw it deep and somebody on the bills sideline takes note of that play and that we're changing it up from the last time we beat them.

How often does bb preach about situations? If it's 3rd and 12 in the third quarter or something... and we're down two or three scores... sure, throw it right where you think he can catch it. Our chances of winning are much lower in that situation anyway. But in that situation, you have room to lead him on and fight another play.

It was an underthrown pass. An underthrown pass is an underthrown pass in high school, in the back yard, at alabama.

I'm not saying throw him out. I'm saying he doesn't get to have the general management of the team centered around him and his skillsets, because we don't know if he's that good yet. I'm saying QB is still a developing position that could go either way. I'm saying we have enough at te, and if nothing pops out at wr then let it be. If mac can't make them better, then at the end of next season you keep him and overcompensate for that, or you keep looking at QBs. Trade for Dak or something.

That changed the complexion of the game. Had we answered right back at them and scored, its 7-7, the bills coaches know Mac's good but don't know if he can throw or if BB IS WILLING TO LET HIM THROW (mind you their first matchup he threw 0 times), that's a strategic positioning that affects the game after that.

We set them up to go up 14-0.

Most analysts and folks on this board said... they go up by two scores that's ballgame. And it was. We allowed them to relax and let Allen do his thing.

Situations.
 
Sometimes you have to make your own binkie.
 
Scar is being generous saying they even have Jacobi. He's a great UFA find, but he's not the guy for the slot. He's more of a Jabar Gaffney guy being the second slot guy behind Welker.

2019 is a a prime example of why precious draft capital can't be wasted. Watching the other top WR's in that draft is brutal. Watching Samuel ascend makes me want to throw up. Now the Pats have to continue their search while other needs keep popping up.
 
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Then I do not know what to say. Horrible routes, rounds off his breaks, not fast, no idea why anyone would want him. What do you see that impresses you?
 
Then I do not know what to say. Horrible routes, rounds off his breaks, not fast, no idea why anyone would want him. What do you see that impresses you?
I wouldn't have mentioned him were he not a former Patriot (and Miami Hurricane, but that's neither here nor there). It's not so much what I see in him. Rather, I see a team that started a WR3 as their WR1 last season and gave 326 offensive snaps to a guy who caught 14 balls for 184 yards. Meanwhile Berrios put up more yards than anyone not named Jakobi Meyers on a terrible team with an inferior QB, while also putting up +7 more yards on average per return than Gunner.
 
Are we really missing a slot guy? We have Bourne and Myers.

We do need better quality at the receiver position.
Myers/Bourne/Agholor/Harry/Wilkerson is just not good enough for prime time.

Mac does need more time, or needs to learn to release faster, Consider that Big Ben adapted when his line didn't give him enough.
I like Bourne in the slot and I like Myers, but Myers he’s mediocre after the catch. Ideally, a slot receiver is damgerous after the catch And I don’t think that’s Myers.
 
Youre correct. The ball should have been thrown over Agahlor head and in front of him. There was plenty of room for Agahlor to run under it.

It wasnt. The ball was behind Agahlor. He had to reach back and let the pass arrive.
The throw was pretty good, though slightly under thrown. But there was so much loft on the throw the safety had time get over from the middle of field to make the pick. Buffalo has great safeties. Not a great call against those safeties. Maybe if Mac had a stronger arm.
 
I wouldn't have mentioned him were he not a former Patriot (and Miami Hurricane, but that's neither here nor there). It's not so much what I see in him. Rather, I see a team that started a WR3 as their WR1 last season and gave 326 offensive snaps to a guy who caught 14 balls for 184 yards. Meanwhile Berrios put up more yards than anyone not named Jakobi Meyers on a terrible team with an inferior QB, while also putting up +7 more yards on average per return than Gunner.

Apples and oranges. Talking about how poor Harry and Gunner play is not going to make Berrios better.

Watch the guy - he is very limited. The opposing defense knows that and pays him no mind. The #3 or #4 CB covers him with no help. He is so slow he can never get behind any defense and threaten them, so they let him run around 10 yards and less.

We need a real WR, not anyone anything like Berrios (or Harry or Gunner).
 
Apples and oranges. Talking about how poor Harry and Gunner play is not going to make Berrios better.

Watch the guy - he is very limited. The opposing defense knows that and pays him no mind. The #3 or #4 CB covers him with no help. He is so slow he can never get behind any defense and threaten them, so they let him run around 10 yards and less.

We need a real WR, not anyone anything like Berrios (or Harry or Gunner).
Not really, considering we're talking about the Patriots roster since he left, including last year when he was substantially better than other WRs on the team, without even mentioning the All Pro KR status. Berrios is, at minimum, a huge upgrade over Gunner.
 
The throw was pretty good, though slightly under thrown. But there was so much loft on the throw the safety had time get over from the middle of field to make the pick. Buffalo has great safeties. Not a great call against those safeties. Maybe if Mac had a stronger arm.

That was not a bad throw, nine times out of 10 it's caught for a touchdown or tipped away by the defender (it had to be "lofted" to get there on that route). It's been suggested that Hyde simply was trying to get a hand on it to prevent the reception and lucked into actually hauling it in, his catch was unreal. Sure, a perfect throw would've been 6 inches further but it's hard to fault Mac. What's questionable is the choice of that play at that time when the offense was gaining momentum working its way down the field.
 
We had two opportunities to pick that guy in the 4th and decided to burn picks on Froholdt and Stidham. Then had chances to trade up into the 5th and grab him. Hunter Renfrow. He was tailor-made for this offense but the Patriots just didn’t see it for whatever reason, even though it was obvious at that point that Edelman was on the back nine.

But yes, I agree with Dante. We don’t have that quick twitch, violent cut, surgeon of a route runner. It’s not Bourne or Meyers.
 


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