Scarnecchia: new offensive line scheme not written in stone

[BTTA]

Johnson was kind of a garbage FB. I'm pretty sure they could use just about any 250lber in that spot.

Wow, I had no idea. Never missed a block when I was watching. And I've never heard anyone else criticise his play. Huh.

 

[Ring 6]

Watching those healthy runs by Harris, they often have Johnson in the lead...concerned about that for this year.

Well it’s a different play structure. If you play a fb you will invite an extra man into the box and the middle of the field, that he needs to block. If you have no FB and spread the field you don’t have a lead blocker but you have one less defender at the point of attack.

 

[Ring 6]

Wow, I had no idea. Never missed a block when I was watching. And I've never heard anyone else criticise his play. Huh.

I agree he was mediocre.

 

[BTTA]

I agree he was mediocre.

Still a big gap between "garbage" and "mediocre" (i.e. average).

 

[Ring 6]

Still a big gap between "garbage" and "mediocre" (i.e. average).

True

 

[captain stone]

Watching those healthy runs by Harris, they often have Johnson in the lead...concerned about that for this year.

Yep; that's what I had hoped that somebody such as Dalton Never Seene Keene could've provided... or Ben Mason, who has now returned to Bawlmore's PS...

 

[Zuma]

Yep; that's what I had hoped that somebody such as Dalton Never Seene Keene could've provided... or Ben Mason, who has now returned to Bawlmore's PS...

Agree. I thought Keene would have been part of that solution. Lets see what happens during the season.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

Guregian: Dante Scarnecchia opens up about Patriots’ new offense, coaching staff

Exclusive: Former Patriots offensive line coach Dante Scarnecchia opens up about new offense, coaching staff.

www.bostonherald.com

Interesting stuff. Scar says the Pats will scrap the zone blocking scheme sooner rather than later if Bill finds it’s not working and not to panic at this point…





The article also says that Ted Johnson thinks Bill will stubbornly keep the new scheme. I don't know about you, but I tend to believe Scar over a guy who hates Bill...

"Sometimes it felt like Bill would get an idea and it would be like we were running our heads into a brick wall," said Ted Johnson.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I had to edit in the "Ted" after all the fullback talk.

 

[Triumph]

I will be surprised if BB is not full speed ahead with the new scheme.

 

[NashuaPats]

I understand how the Shanahan/outside zone blocking scheme impacts the running game, but it’s unclear to me what impact, if any, it has on the passing game. If anyone here who is good with the X’s and O’s of the game would like to explain, I’d appreciate. Thanks in advance.

 

[Ring 6]

I understand how the Shanahan/outside zone blocking scheme impacts the running game, but it’s unclear to me what impact, if any, it has on the passing game. If anyone here who is good with the X’s and O’s of the game would like to explain, I’d appreciate. Thanks in advance.

Play action looks different off of this type of run block scheme. Since it’s based off a wide stretch run it often entails a roll out as the receivers move opposite the flow of the defense.
We havent used that because rollouts were a Brady weakness. Scar says we tried and scrapped that immediately. Whether we use it with Jones or how often depends on whether we even increase the zone run usage which is debatable and how Jones dies with roll outs.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

I understand how the Shanahan/outside zone blocking scheme impacts the running game, but it’s unclear to me what impact, if any, it has on the passing game. If anyone here who is good with the X’s and O’s of the game would like to explain, I’d appreciate. Thanks in advance.

I consider myself an expert because I determined that in this context "OZB" does not mean Ounce Blitz.

 

[Mack Herron]

 

[State]

Yep; that's what I had hoped that somebody such as Dalton Never Seene Keene could've provided... or Ben Mason, who has now returned to Bawlmore's PS...

Bring Ben to Foxboro. Release Ferentz. Or something.

A football team without a fullback is like a martini without an olive.

 

[State]

I take it Mixon no longer breaks women’s jaws?

 

[captain stone]

Bring Ben to Foxboro. Release Ferentz. Or something.

A football team without a fullback is like a martini without an olive.

Yep, or a bong without ice water...

 

[captain stone]

I take it Mixon no longer breaks women’s jaws?

Yeah I wouldn't have touched him with either of our 3rd-round picks had he still been available at that point of the 2017 draft... I wouldn't have been surprised if it had ended badly for him in the league; but good for him for keeping his hands to himself since then, I guess... like a real man should've done anyway... Still would never have voted him a team captain, however...

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

I understand how the Shanahan/outside zone blocking scheme impacts the running game, but it’s unclear to me what impact, if any, it has on the passing game. If anyone here who is good with the X’s and O’s of the game would like to explain, I’d appreciate. Thanks in advance.

It really helps in the MOF (middle of field) bc LB's have to cut off the aiming points near the sideline so specifically it helps create space in that part of the field. That horizontal flow becomes natural for some guys. Once you've established that stretch/wide run you can run stuff that naturally compliments it. Boots to the opposite side and hit overs or crossers. I've been hoping we would run more RPO, some of those are perfect compliments to those stretch runs.

 

[Vindicate]

Yep, or a bong without ice water...

How many teams imement a true (modern) FB, especially as a (modernly) traditional FB such as Devlin/Johnson?

Side note: trying to specify what is "traditional" as an FB is really annoying given the sheer amount of directions that the position has been pulled.