What's Slater really saying?

[captain stone]

He was cooked. Johnson was a beast in his first few years but a horrible lb and a massive liability at the end.

He still would’ve been better than Monty Beisel or the corpse of Chad Brown.

 

[captain stone]

BS. Just plain BS. Did Bill give his kids a help in getting in the door. Sure he did. But you seem to ignore the obvious by selective memory. Steve's rise in the organization came with EVERY chance to fail. He didn't just appear on the Pats sideline one day. He spend 4 full seasons as a coaching assistant learning everything from breaking down film to getting the coffee. At every step between being gofer and a position coach, he has had to be able to DO the job. He had to gain the respect of the players as well as his dad. He has had to follow the same path as McDaniels, Patricia, Flores, etc.

And, after following BB for the past 20 years, do you REALLY honestly believe that if Steve didn't have an aptitude to coach in the NFL, he'd have a job here?? He's been doing this for NINE freakin' years. THis hasn't been a meteoric rise. This has been more like like a long trek that has many more miles to go. In every area he's taken from coaching DB's to LB's he's HAD success. Now he's calling the defensive play calls. It's not a huge responsibility since whatever is called will often be changed by a formation, motion, or personnel grouping. This is still a cooperative group effort to coordinate the defense.

He's an easy target for those here looking for low hanging fruit. Kind of sad, but understandable. There ARE some very lazy people here.

Wrong.

I would elucidate my position further, but I’m too lazy…

 

[captain stone]

"How many teams do you think will consider Little Steven for a HC position? Forget HC. How many teams would consider Little Steven for a DC position? If you're being honest and not a totally blind Homer, you'd admit the answer is NONE"

How do you know this?
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"Little Steven brings nothing to the DC position: no new ideas or schemes, no creativity ... He's also not respected by the players or lacks the connection necessary to inspire them"

How do you know this?
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"He's basically Daddies little helper ... Little Steven is a waste of space and an embarrassment on national TV"

You're better than these mean-spirited, dreckish soundbites.

Little Steven is a ****ing clownish, incompetent thanksdad.

It’s ok to admit this; it’s good for the soul to do so actually.

 

[Ring 6]

He still would’ve been better than Monty Beisel or the corpse of Chad Brown.

Probably not. He was beyond awful at that point.

 

[Huckleberry1]

Patriots defense:

Points against 260 ( 1st

Yards against 4,733 ( 3rd )

Yards Per Play - 5.1 ( Tie 4th - with Tampa Bay )

Turnovers - 27 (4th )

Touchdowns - 19 (4th

Interceptions - 20 ( 2nd )

1st Downs 160 ( 4th )

Rushing 1st downs 97 (10th )

Yards Per Rush 4.5 ( Tie 14 )

Penalties 92 ( 10th )

Looking at the defensive numbers it is more than clear that Steven Belichick and the defensive coaches have done an excellent job this season. Are they perfect, no, their rushing defense could improve, but even that is in the upper half of the league,

 

[patfanken]

Bill Belichick finally reveals who is calling the Patriots' defensive plays

New England Patriots coach Bill Belichick has shrouded mystery over the team's defensive play-caller ever since Brian Flores left the team after 2018. But Belichick let it slip after the Patriots' Week 12 win over the Arizona Cardinals. He said Steve Belichick made…

patriotswire.usatoday.com

Calling the defensive signals is just ONE of the many duties that a defensive coordinator does. Among them is assigning all the coaching duties for that particular week on the defensive side of the ball. Gathering all the data and THEN working with the defensive staff deciding on a particular game specific plan for that team. THEN developing a plan B and C. THEN 2 second half plans, one if things are going to plan, and one in case they are not. THEN he puts together all the practice plans for that week. That entails detailed time segments for individual, position, and group drills, as well as full team work. Which entails deciding what plays your defense wants to concentrate on during the limited practice time.

Now that is just based on what I did as just a HS coach when I was given the job as DC with a total staff of 4. Just think about how much more complex, detailed, and hard it is at the NFL level when you are dealing with a staff of 15-20,

So the fact that Steve Belechick is "calling the defensive signals does NOT mean he is the DC. Right now, and until Bill actually names a guy, the defense is a collaboration with (just a guess) Steve and Jerad leading the rest of the staff with Bill adding his 2 cents and a final OK. I don't understand why you are so hung up on a label.

Most coaching staffs are VERY collaborative operations with every giving their 2 cents and have dominion within their own area of responsibility. It is NEVER about just one guy. BTW- I called the defenses at my HS for 2 years before I was given the coordinator's responsibility (probably because my HC's wife gave birth to twins and he needed someone to take more of the workload, even though he told me the reason was I had "earned" the job.)

 

[SlowGettingUp]

One potential source of discord is that some players might be isolating and others might be out partying. Judon at his press conference 2 weeks ago actually referred to this issue and pleaded with players to be careful. Of course Judon just went on the Covid list himself.

 

[rochrist]

There's going to be several HC vacancies next season and interviews have already started. Several DC are being considered. How many teams do you think will consider Little Steven for a HC position? Forget HC. How many teams would consider Little Steven for a DC position? If you're being honest and not a totally blind Homer, you'd admit the answer is NONE. You know why? Because he's got ZERO street cred. He's basically Daddies little helper. Little Steven brings nothing to the DC position: no new ideas or schemes, no creativity. At least Mayo played the game at a high level and has natural instincts that Little Steven will never achieve. Little Steven is a waste of space and an embarrassment on national TV. He's also not respected by the players or lacks the connection necessary to inspire them.

Because it's utterly impossible that someone who has spent his entire ****ing life around the best mind in football, and has been involved with the Pats coaching staff going on a dozen years might actually know something about football, right? And how the **** do you know whether he's respected or not? Mayo played the game at a high level. Great. What level did Bill play it at? Which on of them has a defensive game plan in the hall of fame.

This is such a tired, stupid meme..

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

There's a reason why Slater is saying this. Something is up.

It might not be a LARGE issue, but there's a reason why he is using these words.

 

[Bradybranch]

Steve's track record speaks for itself. Best secondary in the NFL when he was the DB coach, and right now the Pats are the a top 5 defense with him as the defacto D Coordinator.

 

[captain stone]

Now the Agree emoji is gone?

We don’t need a Love emoji.

 

[StrawHatPatriot]

Nothing is going on except they lost 2 games and slater is trying to get their focus on looking forward.

That's still just your own speculation though.

I've found over decades that there's almost always smoke where there's fire. Even completely absurd and stupid sounding stuff like Gronk and Brady upset about their contracts and pay and incentive amounts. Or Brady tension about JG. Or Moss being upset about not getting the ball, etc, all turned out to be verifiably true.

Thank you. I don't get how people can watch sports for decades and not realize that sometimes... there is drama.

It's like people have an aversion to anything that sounds dramatic, and they automatically think it's fake.

I'm not surprised though: to be fair, the media DOES sensationalize things a lot. But still, it's not far fetched to believe that there is friction behind the scenes. These are still grown men with egos and competitive spirit. There's bound to be tension.

 

[BTTA]

You left out the section where he was asked what he meant by "tough decisions" and he basically said it has to do with eliminating distractions not just inside the building but outside of it too. It sounds to me like he's just saying guys need to be focused and doing the right things even when they're not in the building - could even mean "don't go out partying and start testing COVID-positive when we're trying to make the playoffs here."

You, as a moderator, should know that I can't include the whole article without violating Board copywrite rules. Something has to be not included; it doesn't mean it is "left out."

 

[BTTA]

************ I swear 3/4 of the fan base is looking for a problem.

...and people honestly think Steve Buckley is still a viable reporter?

I've no idea if he's viable (why would I?).
If you are referring to me, simply beginning a conversation isn't "looking for a problem."

 

[BTTA]

BS. Just plain BS. Did Bill give his kids a help in getting in the door. Sure he did. But you seem to ignore the obvious by selective memory. Steve's rise in the organization came with EVERY chance to fail. He didn't just appear on the Pats sideline one day. He spend 4 full seasons as a coaching assistant learning everything from breaking down film to getting the coffee. At every step between being gofer and a position coach, he has had to be able to DO the job. He had to gain the respect of the players as well as his dad. He has had to follow the same path as McDaniels, Patricia, Flores, etc.

And, after following BB for the past 20 years, do you REALLY honestly believe that if Steve didn't have an aptitude to coach in the NFL, he'd have a job here?? He's been doing this for NINE freakin' years. THis hasn't been a meteoric rise. This has been more like like a long trek that has many more miles to go. In every area he's taken from coaching DB's to LB's he's HAD success. Now he's calling the defensive play calls. It's not a huge responsibility since whatever is called will often be changed by a formation, motion, or personnel grouping. This is still a cooperative group effort to coordinate the defense.

He's an easy target for those here looking for low hanging fruit. Kind of sad, but understandable. There ARE some very lazy people here.

None of this matters until he succeeds somewhere other than under his Dad. He'll always have an asterisk next to any accomplishment, and a question mark next to each step up in the resume.

He needs to get a job on a respected college defensive staff on his own, without his Dad calling on his network, and prove his worth there. Then, rise up the ranks and end up back in the NFL as a D coordinator, if he proves he's got what it takes.

I'm not being lazy, just realistic. I want the best for him. Parents rarely know what's best for their kids once they are past their early 20's. There's no reason to think his Dad is different.

 

[Ring 6]

That's still just your own speculation though.

Thank you. I don't get how people can watch sports for decades and not realize that sometimes... there is drama.

It's like people have an aversion to anything that sounds dramatic, and they automatically think it's fake.

I'm not surprised though: to be fair, the media DOES sensationalize things a lot. But still, it's not far fetched to believe that there is friction behind the scenes. These are still grown men with egos and competitive spirit. There's bound to be tension.

The “drama” is taking innocuous comments and creating a meaning that isn’t there. But then there are a lot of “fans”around here actually rooting for discord, problems and failure.

 

[venecol]

I've no idea if he's viable (why would I?).
If you are referring to me, simply beginning a conversation isn't "looking for a problem."

Don't sweat it. There are uber sensitive Pats fans that refuse to believe anything even slightly negative is possible with the team. They also believe Bill walks on water.

There's been a change in this fandom since 2019. We've become a bunch of whinners. There's no crying in football folks.

Survey says Cowboys, Patriots fans most likely to cry over team

NFL fans can become very emotional and one survey revealed just which teams’ fans bases are the saddest and most likely to cry over their team, win or lose.

www.audacy.com

 

[RobertWeathers]

I've no idea if he's viable (why would I?).

If you are from around here and have read the Boston Herald for the last 30 years you would know what a hack/fraud of a sports-writer Buckley is and the only thing he knows how to write is gossip.

If you are referring to me, simply beginning a conversation isn't "looking for a problem."

Not you directly but if you are one of the people jumping to conclusions about the team based on a speculative, baseless missive by a burnt-out hack which was only written to get clicks, then i'm here to enlighten you.

 

[BTTA]

If you are from around here and have read the Boston Herald for the last 30 years you would know what a hack/fraud of a sports-writer Buckley is and the only thing he knows how to write is gossip.

Not you directly but if you are one of the people jumping to conclusions about the team based on a speculative, baseless missive by a burnt-out hack which was only written to get clicks, then i'm here to enlighten you.

OK, all good. I've probably clicked on two Boston Herald stories in my lifetime.
I don't really care which writer first posted it. I am curious about others' interpretations about what the player said, pure and simple. He's a hell of a leader on that team, or at least used to be, so I'm just curious.
And a little tipsy right now.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Don't sweat it. There are uber sensitive Pats fans that refuse to believe anything even slightly negative is possible with the team. They also believe Bill walks on water.

There's been a change in this fandom since 2019. We've become a bunch of whinners. There's no crying in football folks.

Survey says Cowboys, Patriots fans most likely to cry over team

NFL fans can become very emotional and one survey revealed just which teams’ fans bases are the saddest and most likely to cry over their team, win or lose.

www.audacy.com

Thank you for speaking on behalf of us.

Some of us fans like facts and science and not fed ******** when the NEP are put in a bad light.