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Belichick says Brady's departure was not a matter of not wanting him

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I’m neither team Bill nor team Brady. I’m team Patriots. If Robert had fired Bill and kept Brady, I’d be cheering Brady now and ignoring the Bill as HC of NYG thread now.

But this nonstop vitriol one way and the other is like a $&@!ing divorce. Mom said this. Dad wanted that. No one wins these and you just end up hating both sides, which is not what I want. I’m excited about Mac and Judon and Bourne and Myers and J.C. Jackson. Can’t we just enjoy the Patriots on Patsfans?

Why can't we all agree that BB is the goat and Brady is the goat and that the current oc is a fraud. This seriously solves all problems and explanations
 
Why can't we all agree that BB is the goat and Brady is the goat and that the current oc is a fraud. This seriously solves all problems and explanations
If we agree, will you stop repeating it over and over again? You've made good points. You've convinced several people and created doubt in others. Mission accomplished? Or will this continue until he's literally fired?

Maybe try something more productive like a petition. If we can get 100,000 signatures maybe Bob pressures Bill into firing him.

Oh God what did I just do.
 
If we agree, will you stop repeating it over and over again? You've made good points. You've convinced several people and created doubt in others. Mission accomplished? Or will this continue until he's literally fired?

Maybe try something more productive like a petition. If we can get 100,000 signatures maybe Bob pressures Bill into firing him.

Oh God what did I just do.

Well yeah if mcd isn't here then obviously I wouldn't need to say anything. Sure.

Or, if the Pats start winning. But that ain't happening with how crappy the offense is being run.
 
Don't strongly disagree but too many sub treads in the TB12 thread. Tampa thread. Tom thread. Anti BB thread. AG thread. TB Sr thread... All deserving of individual discussion. If it was just one thread i'm ok w it being on the main board but it's expanded in scope lol.
Nothing to disagree with. I agree that numerous threads about the same exact topic on the main board is not needed.

I think Bill making a statement that he has never expressed warranted it's own thread.

If this thread starts talking about Bill's win percentage or other nonsense like that then it's pointless.

But to discuss what that comment means and if it's justified certainly merrits a discussion.
 
If we agree, will you stop repeating it over and over again? You've made good points. You've convinced several people and created doubt in others. Mission accomplished? Or will this continue until he's literally fired?

Maybe try something more productive like a petition. If we can get 100,000 signatures maybe Bob pressures Bill into firing him.

Oh God what did I just do.
Well yeah if mcd isn't here then obviously I wouldn't need to say anything. Sure.

Or, if the Pats start winning. But that ain't happening with how crappy the offense is being run.

What’s this about Josh McDaniels? I don’t know too much about offensive coordinating, but it seems like McDaniels is one of the best there is. I heard Shannon Sharpe say he was Brady’s secret weapon, particularly with his ingenious use of shotgun, spread formations and red zone concepts. Josh is the best, no?
 
The reason for the move is the poster is a known troll. If he wasn't a troll or someone like me or you posted it i'd still be there. He has bad board cred.
That's a good point.

If a poster is clearly creating a thread with an agenda then the mods did the right thing by deleting it.

I haven't paid enough attention specifically to Bliffin to know if it was purely an agenda post or just posting something new to discuss.
 
What’s this about Josh McDaniels? I don’t know too much about offensive coordinating, but it seems like McDaniels is one of the best there is. I heard Shannon Sharpe say he was Brady’s secret weapon, particularly with his ingenious use of shotgun, spread formations and red zone concepts. Josh is the best, no?

I dunno looks like Byron Leftwich is the best HC candidate out there right now. Just going off performance here.

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Any OC can look like a genius with an impenetrable OL
 
That's a good point.

If a poster is clearly creating a thread with an agenda then the mods did the right thing by deleting it.

I haven't paid enough attention specifically to Bliffin to know if it was purely an agenda post or just posting something new to discuss.
I don't know if what happened to Biffins is fair/unfair but the mod's perception of him is he is a prolific anti-BB troll.
 
Every post and every thread of yours is intentioned to throw shade at BB.

You already have the same thread in the TB12 sub-board....but you just had to create another one.

You are in the same class as DropKick with his Josh bashing.

Please read my post. I said I posted it here. They deleted/blocked it. I figured they thought it to be to “Brady” specific (God forbid he’s our opposing QB this week and BB is talking about him), so then I posted it there instead. Then Ian came and unblocked this. I clearly didn’t mean to post the same thing in two places. It’s overzealous moderation that’s causing it.
 
Please read my post. I said I posted it here. They deleted/blocked it. I figured they thought it to be to “Brady” specific (God forbid he’s our opposing QB this week and BB is talking about him), so then I posted it there instead. Then Ian came and unblocked this. I clearly didn’t mean to post the same thing in two places. It’s overzealous moderation that’s causing it.
Yea I think they should have left it alone.

But dude you bash BB 24/7. I think if you leveled it off a little they would have left it there.
 
This particular poster only posts one thing and that's " anti Bill"...there is never anything else that he posts or nothing that he adds to this forum. He drives me and Ross crazy with these ridiculous threads that he starts during the middle of the night. There is no discussion with him, it's just anti Bill, anti Bill, anti Bill. this schtick is really becoming tiring.

I was once accused of obsessing about Brady’s contract situation. I was then accused about the AB conundrum. And the Gronk mishandling. And then obsessing about the FA nonsense overspend.

These are all GM decisions.

You know, I am not the only one. Lots of fans disagree with their GM and still are diehard fans.
BB has made terrific GM decisions in the past, like Moss or Revis or Gronk’s long-term contract. Hell I even loved Alge Crumpler as TE3 behind Gronk and Hernandez to teach them.

But he’s had a string of bad decisions lately (and bad drafts) and his GM skills deserve the opprobrium I am casting on him.
 
Biffins how much did this stunt cost you man? Come clean Jake, you troll you.

 
Agree. Every single media outlet, print, radio, tv is discussing everything BB-TFB including the most important decision in recent Pats history, to part with the GOAT. It seems extremely odd that this type of discussion would be censored, in of all places, a Patriots forum.

There's plenty of other threads out there, from football to fnord's inflatable companions, for those that want to avoid this matter.

Thank you
 
Bad drafting is arguably the root of the problems with Brady, if you take the long view.

Too many bad drafts meant a bunch of cap space was dumped into veterans who were mostly fine (they won a title after the 2018 season after all), but were bad in terms of bang for the buck vs. what you get from quality rookies and young guys on their first contract. It also contributed to the general low quality of the offensive weapons since several of the FA WR moves just flopped (AB, Sanu, Gordon)

Fast forward to 2019-2020 and there are no weapons, and no cap space to both give Brady a fair multi-year deal AND try to re-load the roster. In fact, in the 2020 offseason they ended up doing neither and Cam was throwing to trash scrubs in 2020 like Brady did in 2019.

Hypothetically, better drafts would have meant more weapons for Brady and more cap space to pay him. That doesn't guarantee he stays, but it sure makes it a lot harder choice vs. what actually happened.
 
But he’s had a string of bad decisions lately (and bad drafts) and his GM skills deserve the opprobrium I am casting on him.
last two drafts were bad drafts? (Mac, Barmore, Owneu, Uche, Dugger, Rham, Asiasi) Good potential there...that's not including Perkins who I think has good potential as well.

Also, no need to start 10 threads about BB and how bad he is...It's good to discuss this but it should all be done it one thread, now 10 different ones.You come across as someone that is just interested in trolling.
 
Why can't we all agree that BB is the goat and Brady is the goat and that the current oc is a fraud. This seriously solves all problems and explanations
For the same reason I asked @Biffins to chill out. With all due respect, you’ve been beating the same drum over and over again. We get it, you don’t like him - and that’s fine. But saying it over and over gets extremely frustrating and it has been an issue in numerous threads. So consider this me asking you to tone that down a bit
 
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