Official Week 1 Starting QB Prediction

[RobertWeathers]

I can see Gillette stadium singing « We want Mac, We want Mac » before the end of the first quarter

If the 1st preseason game is any indication......

 

[Sicilian]

I see the Saints named Winston the starter.

Tell me how both teams, and the player aren’t better off, with this hypothetical trade:

Patriots receive Saints 2022 third-round pick
Saints receive quarterback Cam Newton

It's debatable whether, at this stage of their careers, Cam is a better option than Winston, and even harder going to a team this late in the preseason process. If nothing else, I doubt that's worth a 3rd round pick to the Saints.

 

[RobertWeathers]

It's debatable whether, at this stage of their careers, Cam is a better option than Winston, and even harder going to a team this late in the preseason process. If nothing else, I doubt that's worth a 3rd round pick to the Saints.

Yep.

No way the Aints give up a 3rd for Cam.

A 6th seems more likely.

 

[Brotherblues]

I see the Saints named Winston the starter.

Tell me how both teams, and the player aren’t better off, with this hypothetical trade:

Patriots receive Saints 2022 third-round pick
Saints receive quarterback Cam Newton

Just the little obstacle of them already having 1, perhaps 2 better QBs than Cam.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You guys vastly overrate Winston.

 

[Deus Irae]

I see the Saints named Winston the starter.

Tell me how both teams, and the player aren’t better off, with this hypothetical trade:

Patriots receive Saints 2022 third-round pick
Saints receive quarterback Cam Newton

Sure......



Winston today >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton today

 

[Ring 6]

I see the Saints named Winston the starter.

Tell me how both teams, and the player aren’t better off, with this hypothetical trade:

Patriots receive Saints 2022 third-round pick
Saints receive quarterback Cam Newton

Why would the saints want Newton?
If we cut him they wouldn’t even claim him. They didn’t want him during the off season.

 

[203Pat]

Newton has been available for peanuts for two years in a row. No one but Bill wants him.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Sure......



Winston today >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Newton today

You think? I seem to be in the minority here, so I’ll do the sensible thing and re-evaluate my opinion in light of the reasonable pushback double down, acting even more solidified!

But to be honest, I don’t think either is good. I view Newton as either a rock bottom starter or an ideal backup. I think Winston is terrible…THIRTY interceptions in a season?! That number makes my head spin. How does one fix that?

 

[Deus Irae]

seem to be in the minority here, so I’ll do the sensible thing and re-evaluate my opinion in light of the reasonable pushback double down, acting even more solidified!

 

[UrbanCowboy]

Ultimately, Bill does what is in the best interest of the football team ...and it's Mac

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Why would the saints want Newton?
If we cut him they wouldn’t even claim him. They didn’t want him during the off season.

I think Winston is much worse than what the majority of the football world thinks. I wouldn’t even rate him a backup quality QB. If you have a great offensive line and skill players (like New Orleans), a barely competent Cam be enough most of the time. A turnover machine like Winston will flat out lose you so many games.

 

[Deus Irae]

You think? I seem to be in the minority here, so I’ll do the sensible thing and re-evaluate my opinion in light of the reasonable pushback double down, acting even more solidified!

But to be honest, I don’t think either is good. I view Newton as either a rock bottom starter or an ideal backup. I think Winston is terrible…THIRTY interceptions in a season?! That number makes my head spin. How does one fix that?

Winston's INT numbers in his last season in Tampa were an aberration. His previous high had been 18, in his second season (15/18/11/14). Also, prior to that last season, his passer ratings had been 84.2, 86.1, 92.2, 90.2, which wasn't terrible. If he returns to his two previous seasons, rather than that last TB season



New Orleans has a legitimate chance to be a playoff team.

 

[Ring 6]

I think Winston is much worse than what the majority of the football world thinks. I wouldn’t even rate him a backup quality QB. If you have a great offensive line and skill players (like New Orleans), a barely competent Cam be enough most of the time. A turnover machine like Winston will flat out lose you so many games.

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We disagree

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Winston's INT numbers in his last season in Tampa were an aberration. His previous high had been 18, in his second season (15/18/11/14). Also, prior to that last season, his passer ratings had been 84.2, 86.1, 92.2, 90.2, which wasn't terrible. If he returns to his two previous seasons, rather than that last TB season

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New Orleans has a legitimate chance to be a playoff team.

It seems I’m reading more into 2019 than you, and most. I’m expecting his confidence to be shattered by that failure, demotion, and seeing Brady come in the next year. Maybe he’ll indeed pick up where left off before Arians and do better in the Saints system. My implosion pick last year was Josh Allen, so we’ll see if my hunch is wrong again.

 

[Deus Irae]

It seems I’m reading more into 2019 than you, and most. I’m expecting his confidence to be shattered by that failure, demotion, and seeing Brady come in the next year.

Arians gave up on him. No question about that.

Maybe he’ll indeed pick up where left off before Arians and do better in the Saints system.

That's my thinking. With Arians, you had a coach who wants to throw deep coaching a QB who was all too happy to throw deep into coverage. Before that, it was more about limiting that, and now with Payton, I'm expecting the return of the policy of the coaching staff reining in some of Winston's hero ball tendencies.

My implosion pick last year was Josh Allen, so we’ll see if my hunch is wrong again.

You going to double down and pick Allen as a regression player?

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You going to double down and pick Allen as a regression player?

I think I’ll follow the strategy of Team Bill and wait to see how he performs first; then I’ll let you know if it meshes with what I thought I’d see.

 

[ashley]

For what its worth:

 

[mike_usagisan]

I can see Gillette stadium singing « We want Mac, We want Mac » before the end of the first quarter

I’m singing it right now.

 

[TheBeers]

Like most I think we start game 1 with Cam. I don't think it's the worst thing for Mac to watch for a game or 2, and then take over, which is what I think will happen. That said.. I hope they go with Mac out of the gate. He looks NFL ready to me and that was the book on him for the draft. I have a lot of respect for Cam, I think it's been a tough deal for him and I actually think he could have a decent season. But Mac processes and gets that ball out quick, that ultimately is the Patriots offense IMO.