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Rumor: Some Patriots Players Have Doubts About Cam Newton

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Could you show me the contract offer the Patriots made to Brady, just wanted to compare it to the contract he signed with Tampa, thanks!
No. Can you find it? Thanks.
 
Way to completely misrepresent my position.

Fyi - Mac was not picked in the top 10.
It is your postion. You said yourself BB is paid to make the decisions. Well, he made them and you don't like it even though you don't offer a PoV of what he should have done other than he should have gotten someone better than Cam. Who? How? Short/Long term benefit?

On the other hand, I am on record as saying he lived with Tom leaving, sucked up a down year with Cam knowing he would get $85m in cap space and a top 15 draft pick in 2021. He chose to fight another day. That is how an NFL team reloads.

Context is Mac top 10 in NFL. If he becomes that you still won't be happy.

Dude you are anti-BB. Just admit it.
 
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Bill could take the Pats to 9 Superbowls with 6 wins, 13 AFC Championships game with 9 wins, win the AFC East 17 times, and average almost 12 wins a season for 21 years, and the Merchants-of-Misery half of the board would crap on that crap.
So did Tom and a lot of the board likes to diminish what he did here.
 
A 2 year placeholder who can't play the position.

Again, Jones has not played a snap.
Feel free to show me who would have been the answer.
I understand you DEMAND a solution but you haven’t been able to show one or do any more than whine.
 
So did Tom and a lot of the board likes to diminish what he did here.
Who has ever diminished what Brady did here?
Not agreeing that he did it all by himself and everyone around him sucked is not diminishing him.
 
You're missing a big point here: those previous dynasties kept most of their rosters intact (pre-salary cap). The Steelers team that won the fourth was very much like the one that won the first.

BB has re-tooled the Pats (yes, around Brady to this point) at least three or four times in those 20 years.
I remember that Steelers team. Without free agency Noll did an incredible job over a fairly long length of time. He built that team from the ground up.

BB and Noll, like all HCs, retool with players. When the players they choose are good then good results come on the field.
 
OK

There always seems to be a strong smell when I pass JAX on I95, and my trip to the Pats-Jags game a couple of years back was not so pleasant with all the drunk and obnoxious DUUUUUUUUUU-Vaaaaallllll idiots ragging on the 40% of the crowd that was Pats fans, including me. Plus I thought I could find somewhere to eat before the game and no luck, without fearing for my life anyway.
One of my HS classmates has been down in Jacksonville for years. Even she said that it has an odor.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. Some players have doubts about CaM Newton. No kidding. The players aren't blind.
 
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This rumor thread continues to be trash but it does show the mods are biased against Cam for keeping it up so long
 
This rumor thread continues to be trash but it does show the mods are biased against Cam for keeping it up so long
So I’m curious. Compared to the other 31 starting NFL QBs where would you rank Newton from 1 to 32?
 
It doesn't matter what the players think of Cam or what the fans think about him. What matters is what Bill Belichick thinks. I will go with Bill

Go Pats......Go Belichick
 
So I’m curious. Compared to the other 31 starting NFL QBs where would you rank Newton from 1 to 32?

It's a waste of time replying to a complete shill for whatever BB does without any thought or analysis. Go accuse Malcolm Butler of doing weed some more.

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It doesn't matter what the players think of Cam or what the fans think about him. What matters is what Bill Belichick thinks. I will go with Bill

Go Pats......Go Belichick

You say this, Bill has been pretty clear so let's see what you think when Cam is the unquestioned starter in the regular season.
 
It's a waste of time replying to a complete shill for whatever BB does without any thought or analysis. Go accuse Malcolm Butler of doing weed some more.

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So you are afraid to answer. Gotcha.

I never accused Malcolm butler of anything, liar.
 
You say this, Bill has been pretty clear so let's see what you think when Cam is the unquestioned starter in the regular season.
Pretty clear that it will be a competition and a tough decision yes.
 
So you are afraid to answer. Gotcha.

I never accused Malcolm butler of anything, liar.

That's right keep the denials going. Love the screenshots calling you out for being a liar.

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That's right keep the denials going. Love the screenshots calling you out for being a liar.

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I am denying it because I never said it. Feel free to prove me wrong.
The screen shot posted earlier proved me right and 100% did not say what it was claimed I said.

Rank newton 1-32 out of starting QBs.
 
Who has ever diminished what Brady did here?
Not agreeing that he did it all by himself and everyone around him sucked is not diminishing him.
Team Bill jumps all over anyone that dare think he hasn’t drafted well as of late or that he didn’t have a post Brady backup plan. At the same time team Bill likes to make sure everyone knows that Bill drafted Brady (not really, partial credit at best) and that Brady owes Bill all he knows and acts like Brady was just some cog on the wheel. Brady wasn’t Lawyer Milloy. He wasn’t Richard Seymour. He was (is) bigger than the team. He was the most important piece of the best dynasty in NFL history and Team Bill likes to act like he was only Tom Brady because of Bill. So far Brady without Bill looks much better than Bill without Brady.
 
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