Belichick criticism mega-thread

[Deus Irae]

Sure go ahead. It is every other thread anyway.

No, please explain

Some fan base we have.

I'm curious as to the meaning of that portion of your post.

 

[SVN]

Stephen A Smith being a Rodgers homer doesn't have anything to do with what his source told him.

Sure. I am saying these are same kinda sources who said different things as well. Anyways, whatever makes anyone feel better about how they want to perceive things .

 

[TheRainMaker]

What is "Team Bill"?

Since your break from the board, people that defend Bill have been called "Team Bill".

What am I exposing?

 

[TheRainMaker]

Sure. I am saying these are same kinda sources who said different things as well. Anyways, whatever makes anyone feel better about how they want to perceive things .

I take all rumors with a grain of salt.

 

[XLIX]

Let’s just say Belichick better do better than a handful of meandering 7 to 9 win seasons or else the public will legitimately question his legacy - especially if Tom wins another one.

 

[Biffins]

Stephen A Smith said he has a reliable source that told him despite how bad the roster had deteriorated, Brady was still willing to return if Bill asked him to. He didn't so Brady left. I also heard they wanted to go year to year with Brady and he didn't like that. There's a lot of theories going around. It's just bizarre Brady didn't retire here and deserved to get the Jeter/Kobe treatment. As I believed last offseason, I think Brady wanted to retire here, but knew it was becoming a dead end with the way the last 5-6 drafts have gone with the 2019 draft being the nail in the coffin. Add in the Antonio Brown cameo, Gordon messing up again and then the Sanu debacle, it was time to go.

Now the guy has more rings then any Franchise in the NFL! Think about that for a second.

On a side note, in a Super Bowl interview, Gronk had said he was waiting for Brady to leave NE and then he was going to join him wherever he went.

This was reported by Sports Illustrated last year I believe. On Brady just wanted to have a talk with Belichick and get an hint that BB wanted Brady back but BB was all business. I can dig it out.

 

[Biffins]

CBS Sports: Pete Prisco says the Brady / Belichick debate is over and the answer is Brady.

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over​

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over

Prisco ranks every team after the 2021 Super Bowl while looking ahead to next season

www.cbssports.com

 

[TheRainMaker]

I dont think if this was any other coach he would be getting killed like this. you think andy reid gets slammed like this ? As an example there is barely a mention of his son's actions all week from anywhere. Peopel dont like BB and were waiting for 20 yrs for this.

I agree the media has been waiting a very long time to see BB crash and burn.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Since your break from the board, people that defend Bill have been called "Team Bill".

What am I exposing?

I had originally thought you were a moderate. Meaning you understood Tom's position but also understood Bill's and deduced the situation- for multiple reasons, was untenable and a separation was in the best interest of both parties.

 

[TheRainMaker]

CBS Sports: Pete Prisco says the Brady / Belichick debate is over and the answer is Brady.

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over​

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over

Prisco ranks every team after the 2021 Super Bowl while looking ahead to next season

www.cbssports.com

This is just the beginning. BB is going to get dragged through the mud.

 

[sb1]

CBS Sports: Pete Prisco says the Brady / Belichick debate is over and the answer is Brady.

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over​

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over

Prisco ranks every team after the 2021 Super Bowl while looking ahead to next season

www.cbssports.com

A #18-20 ranking is about right. Not a total disaster but certainly work to do before playoffs are realistic again.

 

[sb1]

This is just the beginning. BB is going to get dragged through the mud.

If Bill handled the Lawyer Milloy fiasco I'm sure he can handle this too.

 

[Biffins]

Sports Illustrated: SI reports (quoting Arians) that Brady was driven to win to prove Patriots success was him and not Belichick

Magnificent Seventh: How Brady’s Bucs Became Super Bowl Champions

A bold experiment, a midseason slump and a “melding of the minds” between aging coach and legendary QB. How a season was saved and a champion emerged.

www.si.com

“Tom is playing for his teammates right now,” Arians said. “He wants those guys to experience what he’s experienced six times. I think personally, too, he’s making a statement, you know? It wasn’t all coach [Bill] Belichick.”

 

[SVN]

CBS Sports: Pete Prisco says the Brady / Belichick debate is over and the answer is Brady.

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over​

Pete Prisco's NFL Power Rankings: Buccaneers finish on top and the Tom Brady, Bill Belichick debate is over

Prisco ranks every team after the 2021 Super Bowl while looking ahead to next season

www.cbssports.com

Pete Prisco !!! i havent heard that name since he routinely picked manning all the time .

 

[Biffins]

First Take: Max Kellerman says Brady vs Belichick is the greatest debate in all sports and this question got definitely answered.

Says infact Brady should be eating humble pie as he's 43 years old on a new team and end of his career, while BB's skills as coach don't diminish. Hence even more definitely answered.

 

[TheRainMaker]

I had originally thought you were a moderate. Meaning you understood Tom's position but also understood Bill's and deduced the situation- for multiple reasons, was untenable and a separation was in the best interest of both parties.

You're close. I just felt Brady needed to leave as Bill just couldn't provide what Brady had required. It's as simple as that. I don't believe Bill wanted him to leave. I really have a hard time believing Bill didn't think Brady had much left.

 

[SVN]

First Take: Max Kellerman says Brady vs Belichick is the greatest debate in all sports and this question got definitely answered.

Says infact Brady should be eating humble pie as he's 43 years old on a new team and end of his career, while BB's skills as coach don't diminish. Hence even more definitely answered.

Max Kellerman who said brady was done 5 yrs ago over a cliff!!!

 

[TheRainMaker]

If Bill handled the Lawyer Milloy fiasco I'm sure he can handle this too.

He's missing one thing though, no more GOAT in the making.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Max Kellerman who said brady was done 5 yrs ago over a cliff!!!

It's crazy how he flipped a 180, admitted he was wrong and has turned on his once favorite Aaron Rodgers.

 

[Biffins]

Nick Wright says he's been wrong to critisize Brady all these years and saying it was Belichick who made Tom great. He admits he was wrong and that Brady is now a class apart from Belichick.