2020 Super Bowl Game Pre-Game Thread

[RobertWeathers]

I guess. Just the odds are higher of kicking a 50 yard fg indoors vs 4th and 13th.

Digging out my notes here.

Gost was 0-1 from 48+ in 07 and hadn't kicked a FG in the prior 2 playoff games.

In 07 the NEP were 15-21 on 4th down conversions and on 3rd and 12+ converted 33%.

Lots of factors went into the decision. It was what it was.

 

[1960Pats]

No he won't. But his coach isn't on Reid's level. And his receivers have a bad habit of dropping balls. I trust Brady. But he's only one player.

I'm a firm believer in players over coaches. The SB has been filled with inferior coaches but not inferior players.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

You cannot compare a 3 year career against guys that have been starters for a decade+
I dislike Ben but no way, and it looks worse to say he’s better than Brees.

Come on. If Mahomes were to win SB MVP tonight, you can't possibly argue he isn't greater than Brees already. That would be 1 NFL MVP, 2 SB MVP's, all pro, pro bowler. In three years, Mahones has been to three championship games. In 20 years Brees went to three title games. 2 losses.

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

Hope TB can established a running game and for god’s sake run crossing routes and stop going deep on every play.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

I'm a firm believer in players over coaches. The SB has been filled with inferior coaches but not inferior players.

I hate to start a firestorm. But...

If what you said is true. How do you explain SB 52....

Don't you agree the Pats have a 7th Lombardi if Butler plays?

 

[PatsWSB47]

No he won't. But his coach isn't on Reid's level. And his receivers have a bad habit of dropping balls. I trust Brady. But he's only one player.

The media is making this out to be Mahomes vs Brady. It's not. Neither play special teams or defense. They won't be on the field simultaneously.

Neither QB's resume or legacy takes a hit with a loss tonight. Both are first ballot HOFers.

If Brady loses? So what. You lost to the favorite. Dynasty. If Mahomes loses? So what. You lost to the GOAT.

You win,so what you lose to a 43 year old quarterback

Come on. If Mahomes were to win SB MVP tonight, you can't possibly argue he isn't greater than Brees already. That would be 1 NFL MVP, 2 SB MVP's, all pro, pro bowler. In three years, Mahones has been to three championship games. In 20 years Brees went to three title games. 2 losses.

Legacy isnt measured in 4 years.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

Hope TB can established a running game and for god’s sake run crossing routes and stop going deep on every play.

They need to stop being so predictable. Every time Fournette comes in its an automatic run. They need to use Fournette like Brady used White and Lewis.

The Chiefs need to go to the run if TB gets pressure on Mahomes. No need to force things.

 

[Satchboogie3]

Is AB expected to play?

It'll be a very late night from Belgium (just moved here for work)! Let's f*cking go!!!! #7

 

[MahomestoKelce]

You win,so what you lose to a 43 year old quarterback

Legacy isnt measured in 4 years.

You said "You lose you lost to a 43 year old QB". You do realize this 43 year old QB would be a starter on every team. He's the exception to all rules. There's no shame in losing a SB to Tom Brady.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

You win,so what you lose to a 43 year old quarterback

Legacy isnt measured in 4 years.

I'm not prepared to say he's better than Brees. But he will be more accomplished.

 

[RobertWeathers]

They need to stop being so predictable. Every time Fournette comes in its an automatic run. They need to use Fournette like Brady used White and Lewis.

The Chiefs need to go to the run if TB gets pressure on Mahomes. No need to force things.

'Bout the same tendency but in reverse actually. For those us who watch the Pats offense, when White is out there is pretty much a pass.

In 383 snaps Fournette has been targeted 47 times in the passing game and has 97 runs. Thats a pass target every 8 snaps and a run every 4 snaps. He does have 37 catches so it's not like hes Mr. Stone Hands out there.

For comparison, in 2018 White had 600 snaps and had a pass target every ~4 snaps and a run every ~7 snaps.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

'Bout the same actually. When White is out there is pretty much a pass.

In 383 snaps Fournette has been targeted 47 times in the passing game and has 97 carries. Thats a pass target every 8 snaps and a run every 4 snaps. He does have 37 catches so it's not like hes Mr. Stone Hands out there.

For comparison, in 2018 White had 600 snaps and had a pass target every ~4 snaps and a run every ~7 snaps.

Obviously the score changes things too. For instance, if KC goes up 10-0, will TB immediately go for the long bomb?

 

[TB12TheGoat]

thread is a lot better now that a certain poster has been put on ignore

 

[venecol]

I think our team wouldn't be as disliked if it weren't for a certain player wearing 10. Honestly I'm not a fan of the person. But obviously I love what he provides as a player.

Yet you didn't choose a MahomestoKelce handle.

Your drivel is so transparent.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

Yet you didn't choose a MahomestoKelce handle.

Your drivel is so transparent.

Well I can change the handle if it bothers people that much.

 

[venecol]

I hate to start a firestorm. But...

Don't you agree the Pats have a 7th Lombardi if Butler plays?

That's exactly why you're here, to troll our forum with your passive-aggressive posts. GFY

 

[Triumph]

For the sake of your sister, I hope the Bucs win tonight.

My sister died from brain cancer a few years ago you pos.

That is all you are to me.

 

[italian pat patriot]

I hope for a great game

I will be relaxed as the Patriots will be not on the field

But if Brady will win this one too...chapeau immenso campione...

 

[MahomestoKelce]

That's exactly why you're here, to troll our forum with your passive-aggressive posts. GFY

The dude literally said a player overcomes incompetent coaching.

SB 52 says otherwise.

And I'll point to my team being let down by bad coaching.

It happens.

People have terrible days at the office.

 

[BobDigital]

Your D is 9th in big plays allowed.

If y'all don't score over 34 you are losing

I'd say the magic number for both teams is 31. If neither team hits it they shouldn't expect to win. But even 31 may not be enough for either team. I'd agree 34 by either side should PROBABLY do it. I'd be really surprised if a team scored 36 tonight and lost. I don't see both teams getting beyond 35. The defense for each should have enough play makers to keep the other below that mark.