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[JackBauer187]

Too funny...you don't care about Teddy, right.

Guys, as Patriots fans would you be pleased (or displeased) to have Teddy as your QB?

Post anything you like pal....

Ok. Let’s start with you admitting to being banned from a board, repeatedly? A board that encourages trolls for clicks. How the hell does someone even get banned from there? Do you realize the level of d-bag that requires. I sure don’t. But evidently it’s a natural skill of yours. That is much worse than choosing to not go back. I can always ask a mod what all your banning was for.

But this is what you want. Constant arguing. With no basis. Not doing that here. I made my case. I told everyone here what to expect. And you are exceeding expectations.



RASTAN99Practice Squad Player
You do realize they have banned me repeatedly? That's why I can't post anymore.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Too funny...you don't care about Teddy, right.

Guys, as Patriots fans would you be pleased (or displeased) to have Teddy as your QB?

Post anything you like pal....

It’s hard to tell. So far he proven he can be Sam Bradford and throw four yard passes. Have we seen him make big time season saving throw on 3rd and 10? Nope. Can he? Maybe. Based on his entire career, my educated guess is no, he is not that guy, but I’ll acknowledge if I’m mistaken.

He reminds me a bit of Kyle Orton. Lots of safe passes - many thought that was just smart and by design until he needed to do more and it blew up.

 

[RASTAN99]

Ok. Let’s start with you admitting to being banned from a board, repeatedly? A board that encourages trolls for clicks. How the hell does someone even get banned from there? Do you realize the level of d-bag that requires. I sure don’t. But evidently it’s a natural skill of yours. That is much worse than choosing to not go back. I can always ask a mod what all your banning was for.

But this is what you want. Constant arguing. With no basis. Not doing that here. I made my case. I told everyone here what to expect. And you are exceeding expectations.



RASTAN99Practice Squad Player
You do realize they have banned me repeatedly? That's why I can't post anymore.

Yup, me and about 2,000 others who aren't willing to follow lemmings like you off a cliff.

Question for you, can you name 3 things you believe Cam should improve on?

Or do you see him to be perfect as is?

Oh, one more, why are you here?

 

[JackBauer187]

Yup, me and about 2,000 others who aren't willing to follow lemmings like you off a cliff.

Question for you, can you name 3 things you believe Cam should improve on?

Or do you see him to be perfect as is?

Oh, one more, why are you here?

Just make up whatever helps your little warped mind feel good. Asking questions when you refuse to answer anything. There’s another Panthers fan on here. Ask him what kind of person gets banned on the Huddle.

I’m a fan of Cam.....That’s why I’m here. Now your turn. See it’s easy to answer when you’re honest. Poor thing. And what cliff? WTF are you babbling about?

 

[RASTAN99]

It’s hard to tell. So far he proven he can be Sam Bradford and throw four yard passes. Have we seen him make big time season saving throw on 3rd and 10? Nope. Can he? Maybe. Based on his entire career, my educated guess is no, he is not that guy, but I’ll acknowledge if I’m mistaken.

He reminds me a bit of Kyle Orton. Lots of safe passes - many thought that was just smart and by design until he needed to do more and it blew up.

I expected the Panthers to keep Cam and was very surprised when they didn't. I still wonder why...

That said, I'm very constructive on Teddy and expect him to excel. He's only 27 and there probably isn't another NFL player who has experienced as much by the same age.

- 1st Round pick (Bortles & Manziel the QB's taken ahead of him).
- PFWA All-Rookie Team, Pepsi NFL Rookie-of-Year
- As a starter w/ was 17-11 with Vikings team that was 6-13 prior to TB5 taking over.
- Made playoffs in 2nd year and selected to Pro Bowl.
- Suffered catastrophic injury prior to 3rd season, many thought he'd never play again.
- Effectively missed all of 2016 & 2017 (played a few plays in week 15) & Vike's declined their option.
- Clearly seen as damaged goods at this point and backup roles are considered the only option.
- Sticks w/ Saints keeps head down & keeps working & when the opportunity comes kills it.
- Is offered the starting job for Panthers by Tepper & Rhule and signs contract that is fair to both.

So by age 27 Teddy has experienced the highs of being a star NFL QB, and the lowest of lows with an injury so grave the amputation of his leg was in the equation. He's proven he can overcome adversity and loves the idea of a lot of hard work. He's also had the benefit of studying under a coach who is arguably one of the great offensive masterminds in the history of the NFL, and ditto the tutelage of a QB who appears to be a lock for the Hall of Fame. I believe all this combined results in Teddy having a level of maturity that is incredibly rare at such a young age.

David Tepper is a shrewd investor whose core competency is identifying value where others can't see it -- that's why he's worth $12 billion. Sure, he's invested in some duds, but his track record speaks for itself. There's a lot of rhetoric suggesting Teddy is just a "bridge quarterback" but I believe Tepper sees the investment in Teddy as one that's going to pay off big for the long-run.

We shall see!

 

[RASTAN99]

I’m a fan of Cam.....That’s why I’m here. Now your turn.

I am interested to see how it works out with Cam and eager to see him play well and rub it in Tepper's face.

Were you ever a Panthers fan?

You're incredibly angry, why is this?

EDIT: What about the possible improvements Cam can make, are there any?

 

[JackBauer187]

I am interested to see how it works out with Cam and eager to see him play well and rub it in Tepper's face.

Were you ever a Panthers fan?

You're incredibly angry, why is this?

EDIT: What about the possible improvements Cam can make, are there any?

So the majority of your posts being anti-Cam is your way of wanting to see him do well. To shove it in the face of the owner who signed your beloved Teddy. Who I have post after post of you harping on how he is great. But I can’t find anything about Cam because only those(multiple) accounts got deleted. How convenient for you.

And whose angry? I just feel sad for someone who can’t even stick around a football message board because they’re such a d-bag. But it’s everyone else’s fault? Isn’t it?

And he’ll no I was never a Panther fan. Why would anyone be? They’re awful. Just had to ride it out.

 

[RASTAN99]

So the majority of your posts being anti-Cam is your way of wanting to see him do well.

And whose angry?

And he’ll no I was never a Panther fan.

A realistic assessment of and discussion about the challenges at hand, is in no way anti-Cam. What hurdles do you feel Cam will need to clear in order to win the starting job and thrive under BB?

You are.

It was a rhetorical question...keep huggin' dem nuts fella.

 

[JackBauer187]

A realistic assessment of and discussion about the challenges at hand, is in no way anti-Cam. What hurdles do you feel Cam will need to clear in order to win the starting job and thrive under BB?

You are.

It was a rhetorical question...keep huggin' dem nuts fella.

And proving my point with every word. I didn’t out you as a lifetime troll because I want to discuss football with a loser who has can’t decide what agenda he’s on. You will be gone from here just like every other time you have ever signed up for anything.

If people want to take you seriously in spite of all evidence to the contrary, have at it. But it won’t be with me. Try and get yourself a women(or man) and you won’t have to troll message boards for all your entertainment.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I expected the Panthers to keep Cam and was very surprised when they didn't. I still wonder why...

That said, I'm very constructive on Teddy and expect him to excel. He's only 27 and there probably isn't another NFL player who has experienced as much by the same age.

- 1st Round pick (Bortles & Manziel the QB's taken ahead of him).
- PFWA All-Rookie Team, Pepsi NFL Rookie-of-Year
- As a starter w/ was 17-11 with Vikings team that was 6-13 prior to TB5 taking over.
- Made playoffs in 2nd year and selected to Pro Bowl.
- Suffered catastrophic injury prior to 3rd season, many thought he'd never play again.
- Effectively missed all of 2016 & 2017 (played a few plays in week 15) & Vike's declined their option.
- Clearly seen as damaged goods at this point and backup roles are considered the only option.
- Sticks w/ Saints keeps head down & keeps working & when the opportunity comes kills it.
- Is offered the starting job for Panthers by Tepper & Rhule and signs contract that is fair to both.

So by age 27 Teddy has experienced the highs of being a star NFL QB, and the lowest of lows with an injury so grave the amputation of his leg was in the equation. He's proven he can overcome adversity and loves the idea of a lot of hard work. He's also had the benefit of studying under a coach who is arguably one of the great offensive masterminds in the history of the NFL, and ditto the tutelage of a QB who appears to be a lock for the Hall of Fame. I believe all this combined results in Teddy having a level of maturity that is incredibly rare at such a young age.

David Tepper is a shrewd investor whose core competency is identifying value where others can't see it -- that's why he's worth $12 billion. Sure, he's invested in some duds, but his track record speaks for itself. There's a lot of rhetoric suggesting Teddy is just a "bridge quarterback" but I believe Tepper sees the investment in Teddy as one that's going to pay off big for the long-run.

We shall see!

Well said

I'm think as an absolute floor or basement is he has an Alex Smith type renaissance career

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[RASTAN99]

And proving my point with every word..

Let's refocus this discussion on Cam.

What hurdles do you feel he will need to clear in order to thrive under BB?

 

[BaconGrundleCandy]

A realistic assessment of and discussion about the challenges at hand, is in no way anti-Cam. What hurdles do you feel Cam will need to clear in order to win the starting job and thrive under BB?

You are.

It was a rhetorical question...keep huggin' dem nuts fella.

If Cam is healthy he's running away with QB1 - starter.

I have my doubts he's healthy for 16 and playoffs if we're lucky but I'm happy we have Stidham as a bu.

I'll take a year or two of Cam, even 80% of Newton with this OL. Another move here or there to offense or defense and we're a top 3 team in the AFC.

We're basically killing time with the best possible option(s) while waiting for our QB of the future.

 

[RASTAN99]

If Cam is healthy he's running away with QB1 - starter.

I have my doubts he's healthy for 16 and playoffs if we're lucky but I'm happy we have Stidham as a bu.

I'll take a year or two of Cam, even 80% of Newton with this OL. Another move here or there to offense or defense and we're a top 3 team in the AFC.

We're basically killing time with the best possible option(s) while waiting for our QB of the future.

He's healthy as a horse.

All players are at risk of getting hurt in the course of an NFL season. In my opinion if Cam wins the starting job but isn't able to play a complete season due to a physical problem, it won't because of any legacy foot/shoulder issues, but rather a new injury. I have a hunch that after all the injury misfortune, this pitfall is behind him. (assumes he makes good decisions on sliding, cuts out showboating to eliminate targeting by opposing D, etc)

If BB is able to subjugate Cam and both go all in the ride will be a lot longer than 2 years....it could be a great 5-7 year run. (I was going to say "epic run" but caught myself..."epic" has a whole different connotation with this franchise vs. any other!)

The best possible long-term option might just be on the roster today....gonna be fun to watch!

 

[Ring 6]

And proving my point with every word. I didn’t out you as a lifetime troll because I want to discuss football with a loser who has can’t decide what agenda he’s on. You will be gone from here just like every other time you have ever signed up for anything.

If people want to take you seriously in spite of all evidence to the contrary, have at it. But it won’t be with me. Try and get yourself a women(or man) and you won’t have to troll message boards for all your entertainment.

It would be nice if you 2 either talked about football or said nothing rather than filling pages talking about each other.

 

[RASTAN99]

It would be nice if you 2 either talked about football or said nothing rather than filling pages talking about each other.

Agreed.

Above I have made an overture aimed at refocusing the conversation on Cam & football.

Hoping it takes...

 

[captain stone]

I’d like to point out the Bears passed on two QBs who are ranked in tier 1 including the best QB in football to draft a QB who is in the middle of the pack in tier 4. And it wasn’t like people didn’t know Tribinsky was going to suck in the NFL.

Every single member of da Bears organization who was on board with the Falsebisky decision should be fired yesterday.

 

[Nehalem]

Tier 2:

1. Tom Brady
2. Lamar Jackson
3. Ben Roethlisberger
4. Matthew Stafford
5. Matt Ryan
6. Carson Wentz
7. Dak Prescott
8. Phillip Rivers

3/8 of the players in Tier 2 have fewer playoff wins than Tim Tebow

 

[Deus Irae]

This thread got incredibly stupid, even for the times, in the last two pages, and that's saying something given the current circumstances.

 

[Jackson 2]

This thread got incredibly stupid, even for the times, in the last two pages, and that's saying something given the current circumstances.

LOL, ya think? It's this whole place in a microcosm in the past year...