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This is what happens when the system fails someone. I’m sorry that you actually believe you are making a valid point
Everything you said is wrong. Every. Single. Thing.
But don’t blame the system you failed all on your own.
 
Which has nothing to do with anything. Nobody is arguing that we aren’t a Republic. However we are a Republic that doesn’t have proportional representation due to issues like gerrymandering

I know these concepts are difficult for you to understand because they are inconvenient for your world view and your brain which has long since rotted no longer has the capacity to keep two separate concepts apart. So you have my sympathy. However, I implore you to seek help and check yourself into the nearest retirement home where you can be taken care of so you don’t have to trip all over yourself here.

How is gerrymandering effecting the electoral college? Its not and this is just a whole lot of bellyaching.

You win the White House by winning the majority of 270 electoral votes. The Independent vote and Swing states decide POTUS elections. Nothing is rigged against you. Put forth the best candidate with the best ideas and campaign in every state.
 
Everything you said is wrong. Every. Single. Thing.
But don’t blame the system you failed all on your own.
This is why nobody takes you seriously
 
How is gerrymandering effecting the electoral college? Its not and this is just a whole lot of bellyaching.

You win the White House by winning the majority of 270 electoral votes. The Independent vote and Swing states decide POTUS elections. Nothing is rigged against you. Put forth the best candidate with the best ideas and campaign in every state.
Gerrymandering effects representation. Having states with gross disparity in the value of their voters effects the electoral college.

Maybe if you need to pivot to argue against something I didn’t say, you have a problem with your argument
 
Gerrymandering effects representation. Having states with gross disparity in the value of their voters effects the electoral college.

Maybe if you need to pivot to argue against something I didn’t say, you have a problem with your argument
Of course this is WRONG.
 
1. The founding fathers did not envision a scenario where a state like Wisconsin which was practically empty existed alongside a massively populated New York and each voter would count nearly 300x more than a New Yorker went it came to proportional weight in representation in Congress and Presidential elections. Nothing close to that scenario existed.

2. the founding fathers didn’t envision a scenario where a state would draw up a congressional district like this....

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or this

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To ensure certain parties would win.

A Republic is meant to be representative. Both those concepts undermine representation

3. Your ignorance of basic civics is only outdone by your horrendous misunderstanding of football

A picture is worth 270 words in your case and the reason why NY and Cal dont need to control anything more than the dumpster fires that they already have.

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This is why nobody takes you seriously
When you can’t support your position with facts and only turn to ad hominem insults, you embarrass yourself as someone who knows they are wrong but can’t admit it. You are like the 6 year old child who gets the wrong answer in class and runs over and kicks the kid who got it right. Then cries.
 
Gerrymandering has many issues. But claiming that it causes disproportionate representation is just not an intelligent point of view. Each voter receives equal representation regardless of which district they are counted in.
I think the poster learned a new big word and thought it would make him sound smart to throw it in there without really knowing what it meant
 
Lets not get off topic and start discussing politics:cool:
 
A picture is worth 270 words in your case and the reason why NY and Cal dont need to control anything more than the dumpster fires that they already have.

EYRwImqXkAARD35

the question is........are we an entire country or not? modern conservatives are abject morons when it comes to actually being capitalists


Who are the Givers? The Northeast Subsidizes Federal Spending | Rockefeller Institute of Government

The four states in the Northeast generated almost 17 percent of all federal receipts but were home to only 11.8 percent of the US population. The result is that the personal income tax and Social Security taxes collected from the higher earning workers in the Northeast subsidize spending elsewhere in the US, primarily in the southeast. See an upcoming blog on why a state such as Maryland and the Southeastern states are the big balance of payments recipients.
 
So are we discussing the merits of affirmative action in NFL coaching or which political team is better?

Let’s not hijack masterbouncer’s thread
 
A picture is worth 270 words in your case and the reason why NY and Cal dont need to control anything more than the dumpster fires that they already have.

EYRwImqXkAARD35
In yet they subsidize those welfare queen states the conservatives always seem to be in a financial hole on.
 
So are we discussing the merits of affirmative action in NFL coaching or which political team is better?

Let’s not hijack masterbouncer’s thread
Actually this is about Cam Newton
 
Gerrymandering has many issues. But claiming that it causes disproportionate representation is just not an intelligent point of view. Each voter receives equal representation regardless of which district they are counted in.
I think the poster learned a new big word and thought it would make him sound smart to throw it in there without really knowing what it meant
If you are taking an area that is mostly Democratic and then trying to carve a thinly disguised district that makes new geographical sense so you can get conservatives a enough of a majority to add a red seat to the state, you are effecting representation.

Also house of rep seats are meant to be proportional. That clearly isn’t happening
 
So are we discussing the merits of affirmative action in NFL coaching or which political team is better?

Let’s not hijack masterbouncer’s thread


or you could stop adding a layer by talking about talking about politics
 
If you are taking an area that is mostly Democratic and then trying to carve a thinly disguised district that makes new geographical sense so you can get conservatives a enough of a majority to add a red seat to the state, you are effecting representation.
No you aren’t. Do you have a clue what you are talking about? My vote is represented equally whether I am among the majority or the minority.

Also house of rep seats are meant to be proportional. That clearly isn’t happening
What? Why do you think redistricting happens? Because population changes, representation levels change and therefore districts must be redrawn In order to have equal representation.
You are taking the exact mechanism that DOES address proportionate representation and misusing it as being the opposite because you don’t understand it. My god. First rule of holes, man.
 
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