Antonio Brown Update

[Froob]

But we know that's not how Belichick operates. It doesn't matter if someone isn't prioritizing football because they're lazy, doing drugs, an AB level headcase, or out there shooting people. If your priority isn't football you're not going to make it on this team.

I dunno, seems to have worked well so far.

Never should have cut Hernandez. He could have helped us this season.

 

[Vindicate]

Hm, Rosenhaus suddenly gets worried and tells him to get help when he can't make money off of him anymore.

I told you guys, while AB is certainly at fault, everyone around him saw money and winning. They enabled it because of that.

 

[Froob]

Hm, Rosenhaus suddenly gets worried and tells him to get help when he can't make money off of him anymore.

I told you guys, while AB is certainly at fault, everyone around him saw money and winning. They enabled it because of that.

I mean, Rosenhaus isn’t his mom lol. They’re business partners basically.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

There is no doubt in my mind that Goodell told Kraft after the group text incident that this was the last straw and AB was going on the exempt list if Kraft did not dump him. If Kraft did not dump him AB was not going to be able to play because he would be on the exempt list as long as Goodell wanted. You still have to pay the contract while he is on the list and nobody would want to trade for a player that had an unknown status.

Kraft being smarter than a lot of the posters on this site decided that at least he had a chance to try and void the contract and get cap release next year. AB was not going to play this year one way or another after the text because Goodell was going to see to that he rotted.

To those that argue whether AB should be able to play because he was not legally charged have some merit to an argument. To those that think we screwed up by letting him go I have one thing to say. “If the Schmuck fits wear it”

Right...because the NFLPA (who the NFL is trying to butter up) would have just sat back and not cared if the league set a new precedent by exempt listing a player who was never charged with a violent crime, never reported to have committed the crime, and who was offered money to by the accused to drop the lawsuit. That’s why it’s questionable that he would have been Exempt Listed, and if he were, you can bet there would be pressure from the NFLPA to move quickly on a resolution considering the reach there. So the loophole was not having him on a roster and therefore no longer being an NFL player...but they just needed one good monkey (Kraft) to follow commands.

Enjoy watching that great guy Tyreek Hill knife through the defense on Sunday. He can beat his baby momma into a pulp, break his son’s arm, and the PR NFL machine can spin any player discipline the way they want. Always a bullsht explanation as to why one guy is guilty and the other not guilty. They are both pieces of sht, as are many players who are involved in shady things the league covers up, but Brown is suddenly not just a piece of sht but an unemployable piece of sht the moment he dons the uniform of the most hated team in the league, based on the opinion of many jealous, petty, shthead owners.

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Right...because the NFLPA (who the NFL is trying to butter up) would have just sat back and not cared if the league set a new precedent by exempt listing a player who was never charged with a violent crime, never reported to have committed the crime, and who was offered money to by the accused to drop the lawsuit. That’s why it’s questionable that he would have been Exempt Listed, and if he were, you can bet there would be pressure from the NFLPA to move quickly on a resolution considering the reach there. So the loophole was not having him on a roster and therefore no longer being an NFL player...but they just needed one good monkey (Kraft) to follow commands.

Enjoy watching that great guy Tyreek Hill knife through the defense on Sunday. He can beat his baby momma into a pulp, break his son’s arm, and the PR NFL machine can spin any player discipline the way they want. Always a bullsht explanation as to why one guy is guilty and the other not guilty. They are both pieces of sht, as are many players who are involved in shady things the league covers up, but Brown is suddenly not just a piece of sht but an unemployable piece of sht the moment he dons the uniform of the most hated team in the league, based on the opinion of many jealous, petty, shthead owners.

I will never trust anything Goodell does or says. He was going to make sure AB did not play this year and the NFLPA could not do anything to stop it because they are powerless under this present contract. Look what happened when the NFL blackballed Kapernick or Deflategate what did the NFLPA do then. NOTHING. The NFL let Hill off because it was a personal matter and it died as quick as it started. Hill is a scumbag he beat his kid. But he and the NFL let it die down. AB on the other hand was showing up the NFL with his non stop drama continuously casting a dark cloud on their 100th Anniversary tour. I don’t take a side on all of this because it is not a court of law or court of public opinion it is the court of Goodell and the NFL
Hill and AB are scum in my opinion. I would be happy if neither ever played again. I don’t care if it is justified it is just my wants. The NFL is entertainment and controls the narrative. Legality’s don’t matter.
The point I was making is that it was obvious that Goodell put a hit on AB and Kraft acted accordingly.

 

[Ivan]

Sign the beast.

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

Sign the beast.

Rosenhaus?

Regards,
Chris

 

[dtbrks]

Would love to meet that prick alone.
And if you don’t believe me, I’d be happy to meet anyone who is a POS alone. So; line up if you are a POS and we can meet

damn. I was trying to pull an AB and people took me seriously
Lol

 

[MainePatsFan26]

They are both pieces of sht, as are many players who are involved in shady things the league covers up, but Brown is suddenly not just a piece of sht but an unemployable piece of sht the moment he dons the uniform of the most hated team in the league, based on the opinion of many jealous, petty, shthead owners.

I agree with you that there was a "burn the witch" mentality with Brown once he signed with the Patriots. I never wanted him to stay because of the circus he brought to the locker room with his social media antics. But an even greater reason of why he needed to go was because it provided Goodell, the league, and media an excuse to sniff around and find/create other problems with the team.

The difference between Brown and guys like Hill, to follow up on one of your points, is that owners/the league brass can't tolerate CRAZY. Brown is a CTE posterboy and reminds the general public -- and average player -- of the dangers of this game. Brown is going off the rails and this underlines to the general public that football (and more specifically Vontze Burfict) can destroy lives.

On the other hand, for many Americans a guy like Hill is acceptable. Yes, he is a monster. But they justify watching a monster like him play because he is -- for them -- *just* living up to their view of black men . From a racist perspective, it only makes sense for a black man to beat his kids because they are "just born that way" and "don't know any better." Goodell understands that you can keep a player like Hill or Adrian Peterson around because once the dust settles none of the fans will care enough to stop watching.

But Brown is different. He is CRAZY around the clock. He brings up race with the "No More White Woman 2020" campaign. He jokes about abuse on Twitter rather than keeping actual abuse within the confines of the home. In the end, Brown is a diva and embodiment of the NFL's meat grinder's ugly side. While Brown has always been an @ss, all the head injuries must have caused some of this, right? Brown makes fans confront that question with every breath he takes these days.

Having Brown spiraling while employed by the NFL would be too radioactive. For a league more concerned with optics than any semblance of moral authority, Brown had to go and has to stay gone.

Unlike guys like Hill, Brown doesn't feel like you can figure him out. He might as well be the Joker post falling in a vat of acid. And that fact scares guys like Goodell who like predictable violations like a little domestic violence here and child abuse there.

Let's just get Brown help before it is too late - there is something wrong with him psychologically and/or physiologically that could explode worse than even now. I fear for his ex-girlfriend and kids and I hope they stay away.

ps. I'm sorry if this post felt too cynical. I am disgusted with Goodell's behavior and lack of positive leadership and really feel he needs to go.

 

[203Pat]

I agree with you that there was a "burn the witch" mentality with Brown once he signed with the Patriots. I never wanted him to stay because of the circus - but part of why he needed to go was because it provided Goodell et. al. an excuse to sniff around and find other problems with the team.

The difference between Brown and guys like Hill, to follow up on one of your points, are that owners/the league brass can't tolerate CRAZY. Brown is a CTE posterboy and reminds the general public -- and average player -- of the dangers of this game. On the other hand, for many Hill is *just* an abusive black guy that just fits with long-festering racial stereotypes. In other words, Goodell figures that many NFL fans will believe it's just natural for a black man to beat his kids, so as long as that black man is leaving the white women alone everything will be fine with the viewing public long-term. Just weather the storm from liberal media and eventually even they'll forget the issue. Goodell understands that you can keep a player like Hill or Adrian Peterson because none of the fans will care once the dust settles... not really.

But for the commissioner Brown is the embodiment of the NFL's meat grinder's ugly side. And having him spiraling while employed by the NFL would be too radioactive for a league more concerned with optics than any semblance of moral authority.

Let's just get Brown help before it is too late - there is something wrong with him physiologically that could explode worse than even now. I fear for his ex-girlfriend and kids and I hope they stay away.

Lol what the hell

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

There is no doubt in my mind that Goodell told Kraft after the group text incident that this was the last straw and AB was going on the exempt list if Kraft did not dump him. If Kraft did not dump him AB was not going to be able to play because he would be on the exempt list as long as Goodell wanted. You still have to pay the contract while he is on the list and nobody would want to trade for a player that had an unknown status.

Kraft being smarter than a lot of the posters on this site decided that at least he had a chance to try and void the contract and get cap release next year. AB was not going to play this year one way or another after the text because Goodell was going to see to that he rotted.

To those that argue whether AB should be able to play because he was not legally charged have some merit to an argument. To those that think we screwed up by letting him go I have one thing to say. “If the Schmuck fits wear it”

Is this giving a cap saving tip to Kraft Commish the same Commish stringing Kraft's org out on the latest video fiasco?

 

[BUSTAMOVE]

Is this giving a cap saving tip to Kraft Commish the same Commish stringing Kraft's org out on the latest video fiasco?

When Goodell wants something he plays ball. When the ball is in his court he holds on to it. He is the Massiah

 

[Ring 6]

Right...because the NFLPA (who the NFL is trying to butter up) would have just sat back and not cared if the league set a new precedent by exempt listing a player who was never charged with a violent crime, never reported to have committed the crime, and who was offered money to by the accused to drop the lawsuit. That’s why it’s questionable that he would have been Exempt Listed, and if he were, you can bet there would be pressure from the NFLPA to move quickly on a resolution considering the reach there. So the loophole was not having him on a roster and therefore no longer being an NFL player...but they just needed one good monkey (Kraft) to follow commands.

Enjoy watching that great guy Tyreek Hill knife through the defense on Sunday. He can beat his baby momma into a pulp, break his son’s arm, and the PR NFL machine can spin any player discipline the way they want. Always a bullsht explanation as to why one guy is guilty and the other not guilty. They are both pieces of sht, as are many players who are involved in shady things the league covers up, but Brown is suddenly not just a piece of sht but an unemployable piece of sht the moment he dons the uniform of the most hated team in the league, based on the opinion of many jealous, petty, shthead owners.

Why would the Nflpa have anything to do with it? They have no power and goodell has unilateral control over the exempt list and like the Brady case he can be 100% proven wrong and it doesnt matter.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Why would the Nflpa have anything to do with it? They have no power and goodell has unilateral control over the exempt list and like the Brady case he can be 100% proven wrong and it doesnt matter.

I can see the hook coming out of the worm.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

And to everyone who thinks the league is blackballing AB over his off-field behavior, you guys are delusional. The league (with the help of Bendover Bobby, who made this all possible) is blackballing him because of what he did to the Raiders. In a sense, he really stole from them; with his antics, he gave them no choice but to release him, after signing a big contract with them. So the Raiders were basically robbed, which is where the NYFL's hostility is coming from. As I said, Rosenhaus dumping him means he will never play again. Teams will use the excuse that this is due to his mental instability and off-field antics, but that would not be a real reason why no one would take a shot on him. They've taken on much more despicable athletes like Tyreek Hill, Greg Hardy, were going to sweep under the rug Ray Rice and that despicable Giants kicker (those are just recent examples). The blackballing has everything to do with him fleecing/stealing from an NFL owner. He is finished.

 

[rochrist]

And to everyone who thinks the league is blackballing AB over his off-field behavior, you guys are delusional. The league (with the help of Bendover Bobby, who made this all possible) is blackballing him because of what he did to the Raiders. In a sense, he really stole from them; with his antics, he gave them no choice but to release him, after signing a big contract with them. So the Raiders were basically robbed, which is where the NYFL's hostility is coming from. As I said, Rosenhaus dumping him means he will never play again. Teams will use the excuse that this is due to his mental instability and off-field antics, but that would not be a real reason why no one would take a shot on him. They've taken on much more despicable athletes like Tyreek Hill, Greg Hardy, were going to sweep under the rug Ray Rice and that despicable Giants kicker (those are just recent examples). The blackballing has everything to do with him fleecing/stealing from an NFL owner. He is finished.

Despicable is not the same thing as insane.

 

[shmessy]

damn. I was trying to pull an AB and people took me seriously
Lol

You forgot the word “gummy”.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

You forgot the word “gummy”.

So are you like, taking a victory lap here? That was quite an embarrassing sht show of an offense...may have seen Tom leave New England with a sad whimper as he seethed at the sht he he had to throw to, while the only time he was excited all year was when AB was on the team. So maybe AB played himself off the team. But all that BS about being 8-0 “proving” he isn’t needed, and those ridiculous points about “star receivers” not winning Super Bowls, etc., all that turned out to be foolish. The offense isn’t some magical little chess board whereby anyone can be plugged in and they’ll win. They needed a dude with AB’s game changing talent, considering the crap tight ends and other deficiencies. It was the right move to take a chance on him, as we saw the broken down offense that was left otherwise. At least admit that, and others like myself admit AB is indeed batsh1t crazy and probably would have gotten thrown off the team anyway due to his absolutely psychotic personality.

Bottom line: we did need a guy like AB, and badly. The risk was necessary. AB is a psycho and the risk didn’t pay off. End of story. Let’s shake hands and move on to bashing Sanu.

 

[shmessy]

So are you like, taking a victory lap here? That was quite an embarrassing sht show of an offense...may have seen Tom leave New England with a sad whimper as he seethed at the sht he he had to throw to, while the only time he was excited all year was when AB was on the team. So maybe AB played himself off the team. But all that BS about being 8-0 “proving” he isn’t needed, and those ridiculous points about “star receivers” not winning Super Bowls, etc., all that turned out to be foolish. The offense isn’t some magical little chess board whereby anyone can be plugged in and they’ll win. They needed a dude with AB’s game changing talent, considering the crap tight ends and other deficiencies. It was the right move to take a chance on him, as we saw the broken down offense that was left otherwise. At least admit that, and others like myself admit AB is indeed batsh1t crazy and probably would have gotten thrown off the team anyway due to his absolutely psychotic personality.

Bottom line: we did need a guy like AB, and badly. The risk was necessary. AB is a psycho and the risk didn’t pay off. End of story. Let’s shake hands and move on to bashing Sanu.

“Gummy” actually set you off???

Take a deep breath.

.

 

[rochrist]

So are you like, taking a victory lap here? That was quite an embarrassing sht show of an offense...may have seen Tom leave New England with a sad whimper as he seethed at the sht he he had to throw to, while the only time he was excited all year was when AB was on the team. So maybe AB played himself off the team. But all that BS about being 8-0 “proving” he isn’t needed, and those ridiculous points about “star receivers” not winning Super Bowls, etc., all that turned out to be foolish. The offense isn’t some magical little chess board whereby anyone can be plugged in and they’ll win. They needed a dude with AB’s game changing talent, considering the crap tight ends and other deficiencies. It was the right move to take a chance on him, as we saw the broken down offense that was left otherwise. At least admit that, and others like myself admit AB is indeed batsh1t crazy and probably would have gotten thrown off the team anyway due to his absolutely psychotic personality.

Bottom line: we did need a guy like AB, and badly. The risk was necessary. AB is a psycho and the risk didn’t pay off. End of story. Let’s shake hands and move on to bashing Sanu.

Please. The only time they had anyone remotely comparable to AB was when they had Moss. How many SBs did they win with Randy again?