Monitoring Wynn injury situation (Placed on IR)

[mgteich]

There aren't any other candidate, now.

But, for me it makes no difference. Wynn needs the time to recover. The only downside would be if he were ready to go in 4 or 5 weeks.

 

[primetime]

There aren't any other candidate, now.

They designate to return when the player returns to practice, not when they're placed on IR.

 

[long distance]

comforting to see tough guys over doom guys crowing at this board never gets old

to me the simple fact is i will not be able to enjoy watching a very special young LT playing a critical position for TB and the offence for at least 8 weeks and possibly all season

id also say it is a fact that Dante has quite a challenge to field a competent unit out of what is available to him at the moment. It is not just about the quality of individual players - it is also about how unit works together as a whole. Mason f.e. performs different in PP when he has Andrews, Cannon (and Gronk) by his side vs Karras, JAG & LaCosse. He had a hard time vs average at best MIA front 7 in this OL situation. Some mentioned Fleming doing ok in 2017. Go watch the film. He was helped immensely by Gronk & others & the fact that the rest of the OL was fully competent. There's no Gronk now, the only TE that can block and PP somewhat is Izzo and he is no Gronk (or Allen). Thuney indeed can play all 5 positions but its hard to play 3 at once..

there is no doubt imo this team will remain competitive till the end despite any injuries (incl. TB) but depleted OL in combination with iffy TE will cost us some of the offensive spectacle that skill players around Tom would normally offer..

 

[aluminum seats]

I will ask the same question I asked several pages ago:

What exactly is Wynn doing that is exposing himself to injury beyond the normal expectations for his position?

If you don't have an answer for this, there is no reason to consider him unreliable aside from your own superstitions.

Well see, this is how fans try to seem sophisticated. If a guy gets hurt once, it happens. If he gets hurt TWICE, well that’s totally different. They’re injury prone. They’re made of glass.

Happens all the time...guys get the “injury prone” tag, then they get healthy and lo & behold, it’s not a problem anymore.

Wynn will be fine.

 

[primetime]

Well see, this is how fans try to seem sophisticated. If a guy gets hurt once, it happens. If he gets hurt TWICE, well that’s totally different. They’re injury prone. They’re made of glass.

Happens all the time...guys get the “injury prone” tag, then they get healthy and lo & behold, it’s not a problem anymore.

Wynn will be fine.

To that point, there was a significant period of time when Patriots fans were unwilling to trust Edelman's health because of recurring foot injuries. To the point where people would yell at Belichick for having him return punts, as if that was the issue and not just ill luck.

 

[PatsBoy12]

Wow... not what I was hoping to read tonight.

 

[Brady6]

I will ask the same question I asked several pages ago:

What exactly is Wynn doing that is exposing himself to injury beyond the normal expectations for his position?

If you don't have an answer for this, there is no reason to consider him unreliable aside from your own superstitions.

Yeah people aren’t prone to injuries or specific problems with parts of their bodies. Your post sounds stupid it lacks a basic understanding of the human body. These are non-contact injuries to the same part of the body. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would recognize that is a red flag. It’s the fact he isn’t doing anything he shouldn’t and getting injured in the same foot repeatedly that makes him unreliable.

 

[Lee144]

They designate to return when the player returns to practice, not when they're placed on IR.

This!

 

[mgteich]

yes.

I agreed with putting him on IR.

However, if someone else is injured next week, and Wynn is ready in say 4 weeks, then in hindsight, we should have put Wynn on IR. The downside comes when Wynn didn't need the 8 weeks and someone else does.

They designate to return when the player returns to practice, not when they're placed on IR.

 

[primetime]

yes.

Oh okay, didn't know if you meant there was no way anyone else could be IR return or simply if they were the only two who made any sense and that Wynn going to IR with Harry there essentially makes it a fait accompli that they're the returners.

 

[Joker]

jeezus ...if Brady ever gets hurt I'll be attending hundreds of wakes from the looks of it...

 

[mgteich]

yup

Oh okay, didn't know if you meant there was no way anyone else could be IR return or simply if they were the only two who made any sense and that Wynn going to IR with Harry there essentially makes it a fait accompli that they're the returners.

 

[Uptown]

 

[Patsgofor4]

Glad that Wynn could be back by week 11 vs. Philly, to start their difficult 4 game stretch.

Before that, though....the thought of Myles Garrett coming off the edge week 8 is terrifying. Elite talent who can beat you with both strength and speed but is also dirty....see Siemian ankle injury. He would destroy our backup LT (whoever that is going forward) unless he has TE help.

 

[BTTA]

The fan boys will say not a wasted pick, but how is it not? He was a first round pick who's played ONE of TWENTY ONE GAMES

It isn't about whether it was a "wasted" pick or not. It is about the arrogance and entitlement inherent in using terms like "wasted" about a complex process (drafting), from long distance, with almost no transparency, and about which you have maybe 2% of the information the Pats team does.

 

[LJRomanoff]

What we do know is the man has had difficulty staying healthy and it's not trending in the right direction.

Two data points of unrelated injuries are not evidence of a trend in any direction.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Two data points of unrelated injuries are not evidence of a trend in any direction.

What point are you trying to make?

That Wynn has been durable?

 

[condon84]

It isn't about whether it was a "wasted" pick or not. It is about the arrogance and entitlement inherent in using terms like "wasted" about a complex process (drafting), from long distance, with almost no transparency, and about which you have maybe 2% of the information the Pats team does.

Still, from the logic of draft capital spent versus production, it was a wasted pick thus far.

BB always includes AVAILABILITY as one of the key traits when talking about great players who has played for him. He's certainly off to the worst possible start in that regard.

He was great vs Pittsburgh though.

 

[LJRomanoff]

Yeah people aren’t prone to injuries or specific problems with parts of their bodies. Your post sounds stupid it lacks a basic understanding of the human body. These are non-contact injuries to the same part of the body. Anyone with an ounce of common sense would recognize that is a red flag. It’s the fact he isn’t doing anything he shouldn’t and getting injured in the same foot repeatedly that makes him unreliable.

None of that answers my question.

 

[LJRomanoff]

What point are you trying to make?

That Wynn has been durable?

No, that past injuries are not indicative of future injuries unless he has a degenerative condition in some part of his body. That he injured his tendon and then his toe doesn't indicate he is more likely to be injured in future (unless it can be blamed on bad technique - which is not an argument anyone has made so far.)