Kyle Van Noy

[RobertWeathers]

I hope Van Noy works out but there's something missing in that guy.

KVN has worked out.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I would bet it was over 80% turnover.

There were 15 players on the 2001 roster who were also on the 1999 roster.

 

[Tuck]

When I watched him last year I saw a good blitzer, a strong tackler, good in space, great speed to the sideline and pretty good in coverage for a LB. I'm surprised at the number of opinions that he's a number 4 or there is something missing in his game.

 

[Ring 6]

There were 15 players on the 2001 roster who were also on the 1999 roster.

I don’t think it was that many. Gonna look.

 

[Ring 6]

There were 15 players on the 2001 roster who were also on the 1999 roster.

I count 13
Troy Brown
R Rutledge
D woody
T law
L Milloy
D Bledsoe
Tebucky
AV
Willie
Bruschi
Faulk
Brandon Mitchell.
Ted Johnson.

Do you have 2 others?

 

[RobertWeathers]

I don’t think it was that many. Gonna look.

Just looked. It surprised me it was that high as well.

AV
Willie
Drew
Tedy
Ted Johnson
Woody
Irwin
Ty
Mitchell
Rutledge
Troy
Faulk
Lawyer
Tebucky
Glenn (I counted him)

 

[RobertWeathers]

I count 13
Troy Brown
R Rutledge
D woody
T law
L Milloy
D Bledsoe
Tebucky
AV
Willie
Bruschi
Faulk
Brandon Mitchell.
Ted Johnson.

Do you have 2 others?

I screwed up on Health Irwin. I thought for sure he was on the 01 team. Was not.

That leaves Terry Glenn.

 

[Brady6]

I’m curious as to what the consensus is around here about him.

I tend to get a very mixed vibe as to how good of a player people think he actually is.

I think he is a good player who is still developing. Last year he was very productive finishing with more solo tackles, sacks, and run stuff than all of his career combined. I would say he is on an upswing.

 

[Ring 6]

I screwed up on Health Irwin. I thought for sure he was on the 01 team. Was not.

That leaves Terry Glenn.

So Glenn was suspended. That would mean opening day was 40/53 75.5% turnover.

 

[Joey007]

KVN has worked out.

Especially considering what little we gave up to acquire him.

 

[WaterfallJumper]

Someone posted this on Reddit recently. Good look at what KVN can offer with a healthy front and some pieces around him. I expect a very strong year from him if Hightower is healthy.

 

[jimnance]

You're confusing hope with fact.

Yes,there's definitely some hope there, but also truth.
You gotta admit that at this point, it looks reasonable to think Pat's D will be better than last year's. How much better? Too soon to tell. But better. That's all I was saying.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yes,there's definitely some hope there, but also truth.
You gotta admit that at this point, it looks reasonable to think Pat's D will be better than last year's. How much better? Too soon to tell. But better. That's all I was saying.

Nah.... You were saying a lot more than that. You were belittling Butler's play, yet he and Gilmore would still be the best 2 CBs on the team if here were here again this year. You also glossed over the fact that Hightower was on the team last year, etc...

It's fine, and good, to hope. I just don't see the need to massage the facts in order to do it.

 

[jimnance]

Nah.... You were saying a lot more than that. You were belittling Butler's play, yet he and Gilmore would still be the best 2 CBs on the team if here were here again this year. You also glossed over the fact that Hightower was on the team last year, etc...

It's fine, and good, to hope. I just don't see the need to massage the facts in order to do it.

" Massage the facts"? Really? Exactly which facts did I massage?
Did we have Hightower for most of the season, especially at playoff time?
Do you not think it's reasonable to think the D will be better this year?
As for MButler, there's been no bigger supporter of him on this board than myself. I defended him time and again.
For most of his time here, he was a major asset. Probowler. Even last season, through the 1st quarter of the season,he was our best cb,while Gilmore struggled.
But are you also denying the he did NOT play well over the FINAL quarter of the season?
I believe he will get back to probowl form with tenn. Pat's simply could not afford to pay him.
Belittle him? Don't think so,pal. I was telling the truth.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

" Massage the facts"? Really? Exactly which facts did I massage?
Did we have Hightower for most of the season, especially at playoff time?
Do you not think it's reasonable to think the D will be better this year?
As for MButler, there's been no bigger supporter of him on this board than myself. I defended him time and again.
For most of his time here, he was a major asset. Probowler. Even last season, through the 1st quarter of the season,he was our best cb,while Gilmore struggled.
But are you also denying the he did NOT play well over the FINAL quarter of the season?
I believe he will get back to probowl form with tenn. Pat's simply could not afford to pay him.
Belittle him? Don't think so,pal. I was telling the truth.

Butler was still good enough. He played well in the second half against the jags not to mentioned the game against the crappy titans in the playoffs.

 

[luuked]

Butler was still good enough. He played well in the second half against the jags not to mentioned the game against the crappy titans in the playoffs.

Has it been so long already that people bring out the rose-tinted glasses ? Jebus..

 

[captain stone]

KVN is, in the words of Thurston Howell III, all say and no do.

 

[jimnance]

KVN is, in the words of Thurston Howell III, all say and no do.

And you are, in the words of Gilligan, all doom and much gloom.

 

[Mack Herron]

I wonder if the criticism of KVN relates to him being asked out of necessity to do things he's not especially will suited for? BB could use a LB who can cover, for instance.