JOSH WILL COACH INDY

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Not a fan of luck. He's too much of a gunslinger for me and he makes some boneheaded throws. Reminds me of rivers.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Not a fan of luck. He's too much of a gunslinger for me and he makes some boneheaded throws. Reminds me of rivers.

 

[Bill Lee]

Greg doyel is pi$$ed

Doyel: The Colts are expected to hire Josh McDaniels ... why?

LOL @ his line: "Josh McDaniels is about to be entrusted with our city’s crown jewel".
More like "our city's kernel of corn buried in a pile of sh_t"!

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Why? Because you don’t know lucks health?
Josh has that info to use in his evaluation.

Interesting to think from a Colts perspective of how to balance disclosure against the risk of telling "insider" info to someone closely associated with the Patriots and who was also likely to be pursued by other rivals (e.g., the Titans).

I see 3 scenarios -
1. Luck is healthy. Nothing to lose in being honest about that. He's their 2018 starter, so they tell McDaniels and others that.

2. Luck isn't healthy yet, and they're worried. So, they lie / omit in discussion with McDaniels and sorta indicate he's healthy. Spin some medical reports written in German to indicate that he's not taking HGH, maybe. This prevents their in-house plans to deal with the injury from leaking out to competitors, but also seems to get things off to a very sour note if they hire a guy to run their team whom they've obviously lied to at the start - Luck will eventually show up in their building and all the cards would be on the table.

3. Luck isn't healthy yet, but they go with the opposite tactic of #2, and admit it. Same risk factor for leaking that information out, but at least they're not poisoning the relationship before it starts.

Having thought through these scenarios, #2 seems too untenable to be true. I guess my hunch is that Luck's health status will be known to the whole league soon enough that there's no reason to risk anything to pretend it's something other than what it actually is. That assumes that Luck's shoulder status is a protected secret within league circles in the first place.

 

[ForThoseAboutToRock]

Greg doyel is pi$$ed

Doyel: The Colts are expected to hire Josh McDaniels ... why?

His tone is so objectionable and bitter, like a cup of awful burnt coffee or something. Blech.

Almost seems like he's ignoring that he writes about entertainment for a living.

 

[farn]

Healthy Luck is an above-average QB. He is not elite.

He is not an INT machine.

Career playoff : 9 TD, 12 INT

 

[RobertWeathers]

Career playoff : 9 TD, 12 INT

His career is 2.6 which is not awful and was 4.1 in his injury plagued year in 2015.

 

[Deus Irae]

People here like Luck a whole lot more than I do. Josh might not even care about Luck. He'd be better off trying to find a GM to fool and get a few mid round picks for the INT Machine.

Luck took the Colts to the playoffs in his rookie season, after the team had won just 2 games the season before. In his second year, he beat the Chiefs in the wild card round and took the Colts to the Divisional round. In his third season, he took the Colts to the AFCCG, despite having Trent Richardson as his leading rusher.

He's also had TD:INT ratios of

23/9
40/16
31/13

and his INT% is 12th among qualified active QBs, despite his bad, injury filled and shortened, 2015 season.


Are you confusing Luck with some other QB, perhaps?

 

[Ring 6]

As of 12/31 Luck was in The Netherlands and had not thrown a football yet. He said that. He also said he doesn't THINK he'll need a 2nd surgery.

If Josh has more info good for him. But based on what Luck said, I'm not banking on him being 2016 Andrew Luck at all.

So you think that you know all there is to know about lucks health? God bless ya.

 

[Ring 6]

Healthy Luck is an above-average QB. He is not elite.

He is not an INT machine.

Healthy luck is top 3 on wish list of who do I want to build my team around.

 

[Froob]

People here like Luck a whole lot more than I do. Josh might not even care about Luck. He'd be better off trying to find a GM to fool and get a few mid round picks for the INT Machine.

He’s had a mediocre coach and the worst GM in football his entire career. He’d be talked about amongst the best in the game had he gone to Seattle. What good players has he had aside from an old Reggie Wayne, old Frank Gore and TY Hilton?

 

[Ring 6]

Interesting to think from a Colts perspective of how to balance disclosure against the risk of telling "insider" info to someone closely associated with the Patriots and who was also likely to be pursued by other rivals (e.g., the Titans).

I see 3 scenarios -
1. Luck is healthy. Nothing to lose in being honest about that. He's their 2018 starter, so they tell McDaniels and others that.

2. Luck isn't healthy yet, and they're worried. So, they lie / omit in discussion with McDaniels and sorta indicate he's healthy. Spin some medical reports written in German to indicate that he's not taking HGH, maybe. This prevents their in-house plans to deal with the injury from leaking out to competitors, but also seems to get things off to a very sour note if they hire a guy to run their team whom they've obviously lied to at the start - Luck will eventually show up in their building and all the cards would be on the table.

3. Luck isn't healthy yet, but they go with the opposite tactic of #2, and admit it. Same risk factor for leaking that information out, but at least they're not poisoning the relationship before it starts.

Having thought through these scenarios, #2 seems too untenable to be true. I guess my hunch is that Luck's health status will be known to the whole league soon enough that there's no reason to risk anything to pretend it's something other than what it actually is. That assumes that Luck's shoulder status is a protected secret within league circles in the first place.

Or when they interview McDaniels he asks about lucks health and they tell him.
This conspiracy theory that they have to lie in case he doesn’t t take the job is out there.

 

[resdubwhite]

Farewell Josh.
Break a leg. or something.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

He’s had a mediocre coach and the worst GM in football his entire career. He’d be talked about amongst the best in the game had he gone to Seattle. What good players has he had aside from an old Reggie Wayne, old Frank Gore and TY Hilton?

It doesn't excuse some of the throws he has made. Rodgers has some lousy coaching and he still covers some of that. Luck needs to cut down on turnovers.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Farewell Josh.
Break a leg. or something.

I wish him luck but i hope they lose. I can't stand that organization. That owner.

 

[Deus Irae]

It doesn't excuse some of the throws he has made. Rodgers has some lousy coaching and he still covers some of that. Luck needs to cut down on turnovers.

So Andrew Luck is not Brady or Rodgers. Thanks for that breaking news. Will you next shock the hell out of us by noting that he's not Drew Brees, either?


BTW, in the eyes of most people, Luck's NFL comp is Roethlisberger, because of size and style. And, with that in mind, Luck's INT% is slightly lower than Roethlisberger's.

Luck's TD%/INT% - 5.0/2.6
Roethlisberger's TD%/INT% - 5.1/2.7

 

[mosslost]

Titans fire their coach after making it to the divisional round. What record would Vrabel or anybody need to achieve to keep that job?

Mullarkey has issues. His interview after he won the wild card round he was pretty wacky and inappropriate. Talking more about his family and kids being all upset about rumors and stuff. It is fine he was upset but for it to be his focus in the post game victory made him seem like a total joke to me.

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

So Andrew Luck is not Brady or Rodgers. Thanks for that breaking news. Will you next shock the hell out of us by noting that he's not Drew Brees, either?


BTW, in the eyes of most people, Luck's NFL comp is Roethlisberger, because of size and style. And, with that in mind, Luck's INT% is slightly lower than Roethlisberger's.

Well it seems like people think he has a chance to be that. Can he win a super bowl? Maybe. I don't think he will be a guy that wins 3 or more Super Bowls. They act like he's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Anyway i hope josh sinks the ship even further. I hate that franchise

 

[PatriotsNumero1Fan]

Mullarkey has issues. His interview after he won the wild card round he was pretty wacky and inappropriate. Talking more about his family and kids being all upset about rumors and stuff. It is fine he was upset but for it to be his focus in the post game victory made him seem like a total joke to me.

I wish josh had taken the titans job instead of working under that drunk in Indy:

 

[Bobsyouruncle]

He’s had a mediocre coach and the worst GM in football his entire career. He’d be talked about amongst the best in the game had he gone to Seattle. What good players has he had aside from an old Reggie Wayne, old Frank Gore and TY Hilton?

Because Jermaine Kearse and Doug Baldwin are better? Indy has done more to surround Luck with receiver talent than SEA did with Wilson.