BU makes major breakthrough on detecting CTE in the living

[RobertWeathers]

Not exactly anything you said, to be honest. I read too much into what you said...

It was an overreaction on my part, sorry!

You comment was reminding me of the comments that I do very often hear, that pharma companies and all of the scientists in research only want to make drugs for the huge windfall of cash coming to them. Further, they'd actually prefer that you NOT get well so that you keep buying their pills.

My facebook friends rail on the "cancer treatment industry". Yes, some of the big pharma bean counters may actually want that. But not the people doing the work!

You weren't saying that, I realize.
Just a rant from me, a guy who stayed up until 2AM last night writing a grant proposal.

Not my intention. Scientists want to advance and cure and pharma wants the same but at a profit. That's all.

 

[lurker1965]

The 99% study contained 111 of 1,300 NFL players who died in the years brains were collected, and 110 had CTE. Even if not a single other NFL player who died in that time period had CTE, that's 9% - epidemic levels. And it's almost certainly far higher than that, even if we accept those 111 aren't representative of the remaining 1,200 or so because they or family members donated their brains because they exhibited symptoms and knew about the study.

And the control group is... what cost accountants? Bakers? What percent of weekend warriors who have 9 to 5 M-F but play, say, hockey, or whatever on the weekends have CTE.
Did I stutter when I said "control groups?" Oh, wait, this is written. Did I "typo"?

Now for the strawman to pre-empt the usual strawman:
Is here's where I get called an Internet tough guy who favors concussions or a Brandon Meriweather fan. Or is that two more steps of asking if anyone learned how science works from deflategate?

 

[primetime]

And the control group is... what cost accountants? Bakers? What percent of weekend warriors who have 9 to 5 M-F but play, say, hockey, or whatever on the weekends have CTE.
Did I stutter when I said "control groups?" Oh, wait, this is written. Did I "typo"?

Now for the strawman to pre-empt the usual strawman:
Is here's where I get called an Internet tough guy who favors concussions or a Brandon Meriweather fan. Or is that two more steps of asking if anyone learned how science works from deflategate?

Other studies have been done on CTE in non-contact sports populations. They are a fraction of a percentage point.

 

[lurker1965]

Other studies have been done on CTE in non-contact sports populations. They are a fraction of a percentage point.

link please

I do not remember a study of dead baker brains.

 

[Patjew]

I assume everyone in Southie has CTE.

 

[Patjew]

I've thought about it.

I've had a handful concussions (sports, car accidents) and have had a couple of blood relatives pass away from Alzheimer's. I'm sure I rank high on some study.

Other than creaky joints from playing hoop and running, I remember everything and feel great.

Out of sheer fear, I have zero interest in finding out but I am living and making sure my family is taken care of the best I can.

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Healthy and very fit for 44 (very-super fit if wine is good for you), but I've had my share of head hits from bball and kid fights... and I'd rather not know where those lead.

 

[lurker1965]

I think it will be more of a tested in college and not allowed to play because of liability type issue. I think it will be more of I am a 25 year old NFL player who is just married and I tested positive for it. I think more young players in the NFL and college getting diagnosed means fewer people will let their children play.

In my fathers younger days, the 1930s and 40s, everyone boxed when they were young. Golden Gloves was huge. We will look back at football like this someday. How many of your kids boxed?

Yes, boxing is dying. Enter MMA. How many kids imitate WWE stars?(I want to say WWF; gee, I'm old. )

Boxing died (or is dying) because it was not TV friendly. The best fights are not available on "free" TV. ("Free" is in quotes because ads are expensive.)

Oddly with the Internet their model, where you pay, say Amazon Prime, a premium, is better adapted than the NFL model.

I agree scared Mothers will be like you and not realize the guys that played in the "good" old days where if you had your bell rung it was comedy fodder for Snickers commercials, have donated their brains; not players who grew up in the defenseless receiver era.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Yeah I'm in the same boat. Healthy and very fit for 44 (very-super fit if wine is good for you), but I've had my share of head hits from bball and kid fights... and I'd rather not know where those lead.

Wine is great for you.... especially the 4th glass.

 

[chasa]

hopefully davonte adams gets this done. He's definitely got CTE after that hit last night.

 

[Jackson 2]

I assume everyone in Southie has CTE.

I lived there the summer between my junior and senior years in college with a buddy. I'm sure I contracted it by osmosis.

 

[PP2]

I assume everyone in Southie has CTE.

When was the last time you were in Southie? It's been gentrified; has been for a while.

 

[mosey threetupu]

I heard Damien Woody (a physical OL that I'm sure took a significant amount of head trauma) say today that he would play if he had it to do over again despite the latest findings. I'd venture to guess he's almost unilaterally agreed with by current and ex-NFL players. We've seen some walk away after their first contracts. Stork comes to mind but did he stay in the game as a coach?

 

[mosey threetupu]

Yes, boxing is dying. Enter MMA. How many kids imitate WWE stars?(I want to say WWF; gee, I'm old. )

Boxing died (or is dying) because it was not TV friendly. The best fights are not available on "free" TV. ("Free" is in quotes because ads are expensive.)

Oddly with the Internet their model, where you pay, say Amazon Prime, a premium, is better adapted than the NFL model.

I agree scared Mothers will be like you and not realize the guys that played in the "good" old days where if you had your bell rung it was comedy fodder for Snickers commercials, have donated their brains; not players who grew up in the defenseless receiver era.

I was hoping that Mayweather/McGregor might spark an interest in boxing which to me is easily the superior sport but it seems it hasn't.

 

[SalemPats]

Yes, boxing is dying. Enter MMA. How many kids imitate WWE stars?(I want to say WWF; gee, I'm old. )

Boxing died (or is dying) because it was not TV friendly. The best fights are not available on "free" TV. ("Free" is in quotes because ads are expensive.)

Oddly with the Internet their model, where you pay, say Amazon Prime, a premium, is better adapted than the NFL model.

I agree scared Mothers will be like you and not realize the guys that played in the "good" old days where if you had your bell rung it was comedy fodder for Snickers commercials, have donated their brains; not players who grew up in the defenseless receiver era.

Boxing died because of corruption. MMA took over because it's more organized and much shorter. Each fight is a maximum of 15 minutes with title fights / main events being a max of 25 min - thus it's much easier having more fights on a card and promote the undercard.

In addition, it's much safer than boxing where a fighter can get concussed, recover and then take much more damage. It's rare for an mma fight to have 100 significant strikes, in boxing it's the norm

 

[mosey threetupu]

Boxing died because of corruption. MMA took over because it's more organized and much shorter. Each fight is a maximum of 15 minutes with title fights / main events being a max of 25 min - thus it's much easier having more fights on a card and promote the undercard.

In addition, it's much safer than boxing where a fighter can get concussed, recover and then take much more damage. It's rare for an mma fight to have 100 significant strikes, in boxing it's the norm

As a boxing fan I can't really argue.

 

[Jackson 2]

When was the last time you were in Southie? It's been gentrified; has been for a while.

It bears little, if any, resemblance, to the place it was in the 60s and 70s.

 

[Patjew]

When was the last time you were in Southie? It's been gentrified; has been for a while.

Back when I used I hang out with The Funky Bunch.

 

[Jackson 2]

Back when I used I hang out with The Funky Bunch.

Oh my, you kids...

 

[RobertWeathers]

When was the last time you were in Southie? It's been gentrified; has been for a while.

First exposure to Southie was back in the late 80s when i played on a NH- based AAU hoops and had a game in Southie once.

As a teen I thought I was a pretty tough kid then....

Wrong. That was a rough night.

 

[Joey007]

It will have something to do with avocados.

Yep, that's Brady's next trick. To save the game of football.