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AFC title vs. Romo?

Romo's done, I think.

As I recall 2009 was not Brady's best year after being a year removed from football. So if even the GOAT can get rusty now imagine how rusty Romo is and he's never been as good as Brady and is older relative to his year off. Denver or Houston will get one good year out of him.

 

[JMC00]

They sign the players who are willing to take their offers, not those who don't.

Or it's just Belichick looking to destroy the team, just as he did when he traded Jamie Collins and ruined their chance for a Lombardi?

Belichick sucks, he doesn't know what he's doing.

Amendola over Welker..... Bill the GM hurting Bill the coach

Mankins for peanuts.... Bill is a moron.



McCourty over Revis.... Could be the worst decision he has ever made in FA

LaFell cut for Bills JAG Chris Hogan, who is given a $4m per year deal.... Just have to laugh at this one

Jones traded for a 2nd round pick and cuts Easley.. Bill needs to hand over the GM duties, he has lost it

Collins mid-season for 3rd round comp... He just pissed away a SB.....

 

[Hammer of Thor]

That's great news in every regard.

A slight nitpick... would be great news in every regard if his contract wasn't restructured!

 

[FourierSeries]

AFC title vs. Romo?

LOL! Romo won't be healthy that deep into the season.

 

[fnordcircle]

Yep go ahead and pull out the Rudy card on me. I'm not buying it, neither will rationale football minds. Danny Amendola is a very clutch performer, team player, hard worker, a guy everyone roots for. But this doesn't negate the huge disparity in speed skill talent PRODUCTION of which Jackson possesses over Amendola. Amenolda is a 4th option on most teams. Jackson is a 1/2 option on most teams, and his stats blow away amendolas.

Jackson puts up consistent 1000 plus yard seasons while Amendola put up less than 500 a year for the last 4 seasons.

We're at what, 16 seasons, now? Most of those years people are always clamoring for a stretch the field guy. Yet the only time we had a real stretch the field guy we failed to win a championship. Sure you could try to argue that Patten and Brown stretched the field but they were more possession type receivers.

We've made our living off of building a locker room full of role players. Some of them are stars but they all fill multiple rolls. Brady pooch punts on occasion, ffs. Role players who can be counted on to deliver is what has made the difference between rings and disappointment.

After so many years of watching them build a team the 'wrong' way, after so many years of people howling for a pass rusher, a stretch the field guy, etc, and we still keep winning you'd hope that the Madden OMG 1k YARDS level analysis would be discarded for something deeper.

If I need a single catch that's going to determine the outcome of our season, I want it to go to Amendola 100% off the time over a hypothetical Pats jersey wearing DeSean Jackson.

 

[ViperGTS]

We're at what, 16 seasons, now? Most of those years people are always clamoring for a stretch the field guy. Yet the only time we had a real stretch the field guy we failed to win a championship. Sure you could try to argue that Patten and Brown stretched the field but they were more possession type receivers.

We've made our living off of building a locker room full of role players. Some of them are stars but they all fill multiple rolls. Brady pooch punts on occasion, ffs. Role players who can be counted on to deliver is what has made the difference between rings and disappointment.

After so many years of watching them build a team the 'wrong' way, after so many years of people howling for a pass rusher, a stretch the field guy, etc, and we still keep winning you'd hope that the Madden OMG 1k YARDS level analysis would be discarded for something deeper.

If I need a single catch that's going to determine the outcome of our season, I want it to go to Amendola 100% off the time over a hypothetical Pats jersey wearing DeSean Jackson.

People act like a level headed stretch the field receiver couldn't help with this offense. Of course it helps. If you can have a reliable deep threat with good hands it adds another headache for offensive coordinators to plan for. You want as many mismatches/potential injury buffers as you can.

Speed is hard to cover. Quickness can be negated by physical defensive back play, as we saw in SB 51.

 

[bormio]

So because we went 16-0 with Randy Moss but did not win the SB due to the helmet catch, we are supposed to forever forego stretch the field WRs. That is surely some A+ logic.

 

[luuked]

And I love Amendola, but he is as JAGGY as a JAG gets.

More clutch than Welker ever was.

 

[luuked]

Chicken Little here! The thing that is frustrating to me is that the Patriots seem
to be spending more time re-signing a #3 tight end coming off ACL surgery than
re-signing starting players.

And we know this because BB and Caserio share their calendar with the media ? Just because nothing is being reported doesn't mean everyone is sitting around and watches netflix.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

So because we went 16-0 with Randy Moss but did not win the SB due to the helmet catch, we are supposed to forever forego stretch the field WRs. That is surely some A+ logic.

Yep...it's ridiculous the way some posters here think

 

[fnordcircle]

So because we went 16-0 with Randy Moss but did not win the SB due to the helmet catch, we are supposed to forever forego stretch the field WRs. That is surely some A+ logic.

GREAT POINT if that's what I was saying. A+ reading.

The discussion isn't 'stretching the field is dumb'. The discussion is whether or not a specific stretch the field player with attitude/effort issues is more or less valuable in this system than a reliable possession guy who is a valuable member of the locker room willing to check his ego for the betterment of the team.

People's obsession with stretching the field would have had us bogged down with exciting loser like Mike Wallace.

 

[luuked]

Speed is hard to cover. Quickness can be negated by physical defensive back play, as we saw in SB 51.

Think I saw a different game because I remember a team scoring a **** ton of unanswered points in one quarter.

 

[fnordcircle]

Yep...it's ridiculous the way some posters here think

I think I've watched this team be incredibly successful without catering to the 'omg we need flashy sexy big stats players' types.

That's what I think.

 

[PatriotsPimp136]

I think I've watched this team be incredibly successful without catering to the 'omg we need flashy sexy big stats players' types.

That's what I think.

Well having hogan and bennett made up for the lost of gronk. You can never have enough weapons.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

I think I've watched this team be incredibly successful without catering to the 'omg we need flashy sexy big stats players' types.

That's what I think.

I'm sorry, isn't the goal to make our team better? If a "flashy sexy big stats guy" can come to the patriots and make things easier for a 40 year old tom Brady and improve our team, isn't that the point?


BB does what's best for the team, and it seems BB feels a speedy WR will help improve our team next year based on his level of interest this offseason.

Do you really care how flashy the WR is if he helps us improve our team?

 

[luuked]

Yep go ahead and pull out the Rudy card on me. I'm not buying it, neither will rationale football minds. Danny Amendola is a very clutch performer, team player, hard worker, a guy everyone roots for. But this doesn't negate the huge disparity in speed skill talent PRODUCTION of which Jackson possesses over Amendola. Amenolda is a 4th option on most teams. Jackson is a 1/2 option on most teams, and his stats blow away amendolas.

Jackson puts up consistent 1000 plus yard seasons while Amendola put up less than 500 a year for the last 4 seasons.

People like you are the reason that BB gets away with building a great roster every year because they overvalue archetypical players and leave others to be picked up on the cheap. People like you are the reason why there are talking heads on tv saying that players like Edelman are system players that wouldn't start in any other team. People like you don't understand the game of football on the most fundamental level.

And people like you are in the media, GMs and even coaches at other teams. Thank God our coaching staff is not like that and understands how to properly evaluate players relative to what they are earning.

 

[Huckleberry1]

A slight nitpick... would be great news in every regard if his contract wasn't restructured!

I'm Ok with that, he stays in Buffalo and deprives the Browns of their one real veteran option at QB, now the Browns will have to either use their #1 for Trubisky or hope no one else goes QB before #12. Imo the odds of the Browns giving in for Garrapolo just got better.

 

[Oswlek]

People act like a level headed stretch the field receiver couldn't help with this offense.

I think a more accurate phrasing is, "people don't think a stretch the field receiver is usually worth the money." Hogan made the field his personal rubber band in several games last year and I don't see anyone complaining about it.

 

[NG Pats Fan]

GREAT POINT if that's what I was saying. A+ reading.

The discussion isn't 'stretching the field is dumb'. The discussion is whether or not a specific stretch the field player with attitude/effort issues is more or less valuable in this system than a reliable possession guy who is a valuable member of the locker room willing to check his ego for the betterment of the team.

People's obsession with stretching the field would have had us bogged down with exciting loser like Mike Wallace.

That same locker room guy is turning 32, an age where WRs usually fall of a cliff. So far, indications are Amendola could be a cap casualty.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

While it seems ludicrous, at least Shanahan is paying for a player he knows. I think there are going to be scores of players that get contracts that look idiotic. At some level if you suck, and need to add players, you have to overpay the most. Giving it to a guy you have coached before at least gives you some comfort level of what you will get.
Of course at this point Garcon will have to throw to himself.

Time for a deal for JAG