Steelers fans laughing at article which says we fear them.. pretty funny

[Patriot Missile]

Glad they got good laugh out of it too. I don't fear the Steelers defense but you got to respect that offense. Bell and Brown are game changers.

 

[RecoveringCowboy]

Blowing a game to hurt the Steelers just seems like a variation of "Suck for Luck" Indy did a few years ago. I want BB and TB to get the Lombardi with Goodell and the Hatroits knowing they beat the best that could be thrown at them.

 

[Schmo]

Belichick and the Patriots respect every team and fear none. It's a different story with some of the fans.

Anyone who thinks that Belichick would throw a game is a terrible judge of character (to say the least).

 

[aluminum seats]

There is nuance to throwing a game?

 

[Ring 6]

Exactly

 

[aluminum seats]

Exactly

Precisely.

 

[shmessy]

Precisely.

I assume the pissing match you're having with the poster I have on Ignore is continuing?

Word of advice: The Ignore button will save you precious time in your life avoiding the very few who have "issues".

 

[Jackson 2]

Belichick and the Patriots respect every team and fear none. It's a different story with some of the fans.

Anyone who thinks that Belichick would throw a game is a terrible judge of character (to say the least).

If by throwing a game you mean purposely not winning, then you're wrong because he's already done it before.

 

[shmessy]

If by throwing a game you mean purposely not winning, then you're wrong because he's already done it before.

I don't think he's thrown games when he's simply rested players in meaningless games at the end of the season. We have seen time and time again that the biggest opponent for the New England Patriots the past 17 years has never been a mere opponent, but injuries.

Just my opinion, but thank you for your certitude and judgement.

 

[Jackson 2]

I don't think he's thrown games when he's simply rested players in meaningless games at the end of the season. We have seen time and time again that the biggest opponent for the New England Patriots the past 17 years has never been a mere opponent, but injuries.

Just my opinion, but thank you for your certitude and judgement.

New Year's Day 2006 vs. Miami. Cassel at QB at the end of the game with the score 28-26 Miami. He had a 2 point conversion to tie the game and threw a pass which landed roughly 6 yards from the Medfield town line. By losing, the Patriots got to face Jacksonville the following week at home rather than Pittsburgh. They beat the Jaguars 28-3 the next week and then lost at Denver the week after. No one on the Patriots admitted losing on purpose, but their weak denials were accompanied by sheepish grins. The strategy was common knowledge.

 

[aluminum seats]

I assume the pissing match you're having with the poster I have on Ignore is continuing?

Word of advice: The Ignore button will save you precious time in your life avoiding the very few who have "issues".

I'm sure that's true, I can't seem to bring myself to use it.

 

[shmessy]

New Year's Day 2006 vs. Miami. Cassel at QB at the end of the game with the score 28-26 Miami. He had a 2 point conversion to tie the game and threw a pass which landed roughly 6 yards from the Medfield town line. By losing, the Patriots got to face Jacksonville the following week at home rather than Pittsburgh. They beat the Jaguars 28-3 the next week and then lost at Denver the week after. No one on the Patriots admitted losing on purpose, but their weak denials were accompanied by sheepish grins. The strategy was common knowledge.

Why did they score 26 points to begin with if they were throwing the game? Why was the game so close with rookie Cassel in there.

I don't recall the pass in question, but aren't there easier ways to throw a game?

Your contention that one throw by a rookie backup QB in the last game of a season in a meaningless situation equals "throwing an entire game" sounds an awfully like the Deflategate Haters who contend that McNally could magically deflate with precision 0.22 PSi from 12 footballs within 90 seconds in a john.

Sounds very fantastic.

 

[shmessy]

WAIT A SECOND!!!! Thank you, Jackson 2 for spurring me to actually go back and look up the 2005 season and that game!

Here are some FACTS listed out in order about that game.


1) The Dolphins were NOT garbage that season. They finished 9-7. More importantly for perspective, they won their last 6 in a row. They were a hot team on a roll.

2) Losing with the backup rookie QB (resting starters in a meaningless game) against a hot team, but still losing by only 2 is not my idea of "throwing a game".

3) The Patriots under Cassel came back in the 4th quarter to score two TDs. Hello? How is that "throwing a game"??

4) The Patriots did not have a bye that year. They knew they would have to play either 6 or 7 days later (turns out it was 6).....are you REALLY going to fault them for not playing their top starters when they had a playoffs starting in 6 days?

After all those FACTS, my opinion forms that, while the outcome of the game was not important to them in the least, they clearly did not "throw the game". Preservation was the priority, not playoff placement.

Sorry, but I'm not buying your argument in the least. You're more than entitled to your own opinion, but for me, I'm simply not buying it after reviewing the facts.

 

[luuked]

WAIT A SECOND!!!! Thank you, Jackson 2 for spurring me to actually go back and look up the 2005 season and that game!

Here are some FACTS listed out in order about that game.

Several things stand out that completely dispute your contention of any "game throwing".

1) The Dolphins were NOT garbage that season. They finished 9-7. More importantly for that game, they won their last 6 consecutive. They were a hot team on a roll.

2) Losing with the backup rookie QB (resting starters in a meaningless game) against a hot team and still losing by only 2 is not "throwing a game".

3) The Patriots under Cassel came back in the 4th quarter to score two TDs. Hello? How is that "throwing a game"??

4) The Patriots did not have a bye that year. They knew they would have to play either 6 or 7 days later (turns out it was 6).....are you REALLY going to fault them for not playing their top starters when they had a playoffs starting in 6 days?

After all those FACTS, my opinion forms that, while the outcome of the game was not important to them in the least, they clearly did not "throw the game".

Sorry, but I'm not buying your argument in the least.

Seems like you are ignoring the wrong people

 

[Ring 6]

New Year's Day 2006 vs. Miami. Cassel at QB at the end of the game with the score 28-26 Miami. He had a 2 point conversion to tie the game and threw a pass which landed roughly 6 yards from the Medfield town line. By losing, the Patriots got to face Jacksonville the following week at home rather than Pittsburgh. They beat the Jaguars 28-3 the next week and then lost at Denver the week after. No one on the Patriots admitted losing on purpose, but their weak denials were accompanied by sheepish grins. The strategy was common knowledge.

So he furiously drove them down the field for 2 4th quarter scores, including a last second TD on a 2 minute drill, then said, go ahead and lose now?
Sure, Bill Belichick throws games, and matt cassell does not throw bad passes.

 

[1960Pats]

They are laughing at people like you who are so scared they want to throw a game.

If you are talking to me (I don't think you are) I just want to say that it was only the Miami game at the end of the year that I was pulling for a loss, but only if the Pats had the HF locked up and Miami had a shot to knock out Denver. And it wasn't because of fear. I don't want to see Denver have a chance at a repeat.

 

[shmessy]

Seems like you are ignoring the wrong people

Not at all. @Jackson 2 has been posting perfectly fine posts. Just a different opinion, that's all.

 

[1960Pats]

No. BB rested some players. 3 or 4 seemed meaningless.
Cassell drove the team for TDs in the last 2 drives of the game including a 2 minute drill. Then down 2 he threw a bad pass on the conversion. Conspiracy theorists decided he chose to go all out to get to a 2 point conversion to tie then decided at that moment to lose in purpose because you know cassell never threw a bad pass.

Okay, it seems like I was right. It wasn't me you were talking to.

The above is exactly how I remember it. I can still visualize Cassel's two point conversion just missing at the right marker. Cassel would have had to be the most accurate passer ever to make it look that good.

I also remember arguing with other fans about it at the time, but they were Jets fans and I was an AOLe.

 

[Ring 6]

If you are talking to me (I don't think you are) I just want to say that it was only the Miami game at the end of the year that I was pulling for a loss, but only if the Pats had the HF locked up and Miami had a shot to knock out Denver. And it wasn't because of fear. I don't want to see Denver have a chance at a repeat.

I was responding to posts saying that we should lose on purpose so Miami gets in and we don't have to face Pittsburgh or Denver. Hating Denver and trying to figure out a scenario where they could be eliminated is different than that.

 

[1960Pats]

Haha, yes he did. Look, obviously Belichick is going to have a preference in terms of who the team faces.

I don't think Belichick would ever throw a game, but I'm sure that Indy has a few times.