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Game Day Thread Official Pre-season Gameday Thread. Bears @ Patriots (Week 2)

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Here is the question of value
Say you get a second or Third for Ryan and you keep a Roberts or Leblanc
Vs you keep Ryan he has a decent to good season leaves for top dollar you get a fourth but lost a Roberts or Leblanc type of talent.

Who's giving us a 2nd for Ryan? A 3rd? If he's worth anything, we'll get a comp pick. Meanwhile we're risking our whole season that a bunch of rookies are going to immediately become seasoned starters.
 
Can't see the game, but happy to see my binky Derby do so well.

Sounds like he has no chance to make it to the PS. Too many teams have needs at TE.

I read a negative about Derby was that he was a bit undersized at 6-5 255. Really ? That is undersized?
He isn't really 6'5" though he measured 6306 at the combine. Which is not an issue in my eyes but I think that is where that negative stems from.

Derby has had the biggest breakout of any player in camp he should be on the team it's not even questionable in my mind.
 
Who's giving us a 2nd for Ryan? A 3rd? If he's worth anything, we'll get a comp pick. Meanwhile we're risking our whole season that a bunch of rookies are going to immediately become seasoned starters.
Yep. A 4th would be a long shot. 5th seems reasonable. He's a decent cb2
 
What's everyone's thoughts on Thuney? I thought he looked like the best pass blocker on the field last night. He was swallowing up everyone that went against him and also looked like he had a pancake block (hard to tell, though, because I was watching it on a ****ty stream).
 
So 5 inches in height vs 3 years of age.

Two facts that cannot be coached away.

Where do you get 5 inches from???

Roberts is 5'11.
LeBlanc is 5'9 7/8"

Roberts can out jump LeBlanc. Roberts also had better numbers in the 40, 3-cone, short shuttle, and Broad Jump.. But that stuff only matters in getting to the team..

Based on what I'm hearing from everyone on here, Coleman is the odd man out currently..
 
What's everyone's thoughts on Thuney? I thought he looked like the best pass blocker on the field last night. He was swallowing up everyone that went against him and also looked like he had a pancake block (hard to tell, though, because I was watching it on a ****ty stream).
Story of camp. Instantly our best OL vs run and pass.
 
In preseason, you judge whether you won a game not by the final score, but by whether you suffered any major injuries. Game tonight is a big win! (Scissors notwithstanding).

Scissors kept TB12 on the sideline and safe from harm. I am going to call scissors the MVP of the game.
 
Story of camp. Instantly our best OL vs run and pass.

He's been an animal thus far. I'm not going to be surprised if he's a Week 1 starter. He's been an absolute mauler.
 
Is Sheard dinged up I haven't heard anything bout him except him being out of practice all week. I thought maybe he came down with a bug of some sort but im only speculating.

It was mentioned, almost in passing, that Sheard got dinged up in the 1st game.. That's why he hadn't been practicing.. It wasn't widely reported.
 
The undrafted rookies have been good in camp and are solid developmental players for the future, but the idea of trading Ryan is laughable right now. Everyone's going way overboard imagining these guys are players who should be anything more than fourth or fifth cornerbacks at this point. Even Cyrus Jones, I don't want a rookie on the field at corner for a huge number of snaps.
 
You're laughable! Ive seen it all with my own eyes. If you read my other post. I watch every game (not just the patriots) on a weekly basis, in All 22 film. I stand by what I say, and until you do the same, I suggest you stop trying to be MR.know it all, like you always try to play one here. Im not the only one who feels/sees that he has slightly regressed in his job duties since the 2014 season. PFF also agrees.

I don't care that you "watch every game", not just the Patriots. It doesn't mean you know or understand what it is you're watching. Comments like the one I replied to are laughable. And I'm not the only one who thinks so.

You're the one being Mr. Know-It-All with your BS. The fact that you claimed the Patriots don't play a lot of single man-high coverage shows you don't know what you're talking about. And I ALWAYS stand by what I say. I don't say it otherwise..

Pro Football Focus? Pretty sure that's the site that none of the people there had a lick of football experience and they basically made up their own stats. Stats that most educated football fans have laughed at for being so erroneous.
 
DB is in mid-season form.
 
He's been an animal thus far. I'm not going to be surprised if he's a Week 1 starter. He's been an absolute mauler.
Solder and Thuney are week 1 starters. Question marks everywhere else. If Vollmer returns, C, RG and OT3 are uncertain. I thought Kline did not help himself last night. Mason didn't play, and Cooper is injured, and Jackson is PUP. Andrews and Stork are in a battle. If Kline goes, may keep both.
 
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