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If we draft a QB, which QB would you want?

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David Fales and Teddy if he is available. Maybe kick the tires on any qb that is a duel threat like Guition. I have always thought that with our oline, If Brady could run as equally as he can pass we would never lose.
 
Brett Smith please.

If not, Jimmy Garoppolo.
 
David Fales and Teddy if he is available. Maybe kick the tires on any qb that is a duel threat like Guition. I have always thought that with our oline, If Brady could run as equally as he can pass we would never lose.

I don't recall a running QB ever winning a SB. College QBs have to learn how to pass from the pocket to be most effective in the NFL. There might have been a time when colleges were grooming more NFL style QBs and acting as an NFL minor league program, but those days look to be gone.
 
Mettenberger & Garoppolo are the guys I like but i'm not willing to give up the pick that would be needed to get either while we have Mallett. If we trade Mallet for a 2nd and could get Mettenberger with our 3rd then I'm up for that.
 
Connor Shaw late on.
 
I went out on a limb early predicting Logan Thomas as a TE/developmental QB

(and lost in the media hype about Belichick's interest in Manziel etc was the fact that the Pats had Thomas work out for them... I don't think that was an accident)

This guy has incredible upside and the physical skills we need assuming he can transition back to TE where he would provide some value while spending 3+ years behind Brady learning how to be an NFL QB

Others like Edelman have proven a QB can switch to receiver and be productive. Thomas has the size and speed to more than replace Hernandez

Whether he can be the QB of the future is up to him and while his lack of fundamentals are definitely a concern, lets not forget that Brady himself wasn't highly regarded coming out of college either, joining the roster as a 4th string developmental QB

I don't know how far he will drop but wherever Belichick thinks he represents value I'm all for it

If he DID develop as a QB - watch out... 6' 6" with great speed and a strong arm all sounds great to me and if it worked out (3 years as a TE followed by startign QB) Belichick would cement s his legacy, giving the Pats a franchise QB of the future while getting value from him as a TE in the interim development phase
 
Whomever...


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AJ is a bit short, as 6-5/6-6 is the ideal height... I see AJ drafted in the 2nd-3rd round.

3rd round, I'd take him over Zach.

I may completely wrong here but are there any good QBs ever that we're 6'6" and above? The only candidates I can think of are Ryan Mallet and Dan McGwire.

I just googled it and Apparently Joe Flacco is 6'6". He may be the only good one.
 
Flacco is good? (I kid)

I would personally prefer a straight up pocket passer that runs occasionally (a la Rodgers) over a running QB like Griffin III as it seems that the running QBs tend to get banged up and miss games at times.
 
I may completely wrong here but are there any good QBs ever that we're 6'6" and above? The only candidates I can think of are Ryan Mallet and Dan McGwire.

I just googled it and Apparently Joe Flacco is 6'6". He may be the only good one.

Dunno how he was listed but Bledsoe a good QB was 6' 6". Much taller than 6' 4" Brady.
 
Mettenberger & Garoppolo are the guys I like but i'm not willing to give up the pick that would be needed to get either while we have Mallett. If we trade Mallet for a 2nd and could get Mettenberger with our 3rd then I'm up for that.

Pipe dream on a 2nd for Mallett..

ESPN Boston believes Ryan Mallett would only fetch the Patriots a "late-round pick at best" in a trade.
Mallett was loosely connected to the Texans earlier this offseason. He was also hypothetically mentioned as a possibility for the Vikings. Predictably, nothing came of it. Mallett has one year left on his rookie deal and appears locked in as Tom Brady's backup. The Patriots' best bet at future return on Mallett is that he plays well this preseason and nets them a compensatory pick in 2016.
 
Pipe dream on a 2nd for Mallett.

Correct.

Haven't GM's been paying attention to these message boards? Mallet's worth at least a first round pick, maybe two if they don't want to get into a bidding war for him as a free agent next season.

 
Things we know:
- Brady under contract til 2017
- Draftee has only a 4-year max contract 2014,15,16,17
- Brady has no serious health issues presently
- You dont NEED a top 5 QB to make it to/ or/ win a SB (recent history: grossman, kapernick /or/ eli, flacco, anyone)

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I don't agree with that. As bad as Eli and Flacco can be at times they were pretty much awesome during the playoffs when they won it all. Your team has to be stacked to be able to win it all without a great QB.

Look at the Bengals. They have all kinds of talent but they can't ever win a playoff game because Andy Dalton is a mental midget.

I can't defend Grossman. That was just a fluke.
 
It seems like McCarron from Alabama would fit the bill best from my limited knowledge (which is, that he plays a similar style to Brady's and learned from Nick Saban, a BB protege).
 
My choice: Zach Mettenberger. Typical pocket passer, cannot run..

3rd or 4th round


The one problem would be your right he can't run and maybe it would be good to mix it up a little and get a QB who can run.
 
I think you might be able to draft Georgia's Aaron Murray in the 6th, maybe even the 7th round. He tore his ACL. But remember the only reason that Mettenburger was at LSU, is that Murray beat him out for the starting job at Georgia (that and maybe a few "liberties with female party guests" (insert wink to Dean Warner here)).

Murray is a good QB. McCarron would also be good, but unless they move Mallett, QB is not something they should be looking at in the top 4 rounds (where McCarron will most likely go).

I would also absolutely draft Logan Thomas 6'6" 250 (Va Tech QB) and immeadiatley issue him a number in the 80's and send him straight to the TE meeting room. If someone can convince him his NFL future is at TE, they are going to get a steal!
 
I think you might be able to draft Georgia's Aaron Murray in the 6th, maybe even the 7th round. He tore his ACL. But remember the only reason that Mettenburger was at LSU, is that Murray beat him out for the starting job at Georgia (that and maybe a few "liberties with female party guests" (insert wink to Dean Warner here)).

Murray is a good QB. McCarron would also be good, but unless they move Mallett, QB is not something they should be looking at in the top 4 rounds (where McCarron will most likely go).

I would also absolutely draft Logan Thomas 6'6" 250 (Va Tech QB) and immeadiatley issue him a number in the 80's and send him straight to the TE meeting room. If someone can convince him his NFL future is at TE, they are going to get a steal!

Mettzenburger seems to have the better tools to succeed in the NFL, in my uneducated opinion. He looked great in the Georgia game that I watched, although apparently he wasn't as good in the other games I didn't watch.

I'll never forget how Aaron Murray cost his team a shot at a National Championship by mismanaging the game clock and making a huge mistake in the SEC Championship last year. He showed a lot of toughness this year but that choke job still worries me. When you're looking at guys in the later rounds who don't have all the physical skills, they need to be great in the decision-making/pocket presence area to make up for their shortcomings.
 
People should watch some Keith Wenning (Ball St.). Really good touch passer and best long ball accuracy in the draft. He's one of the one's we've worked out. Tom Savage (Pitt), of whom we haven't heard anything about as a Patriot workout is another underrated QB prospect. He's got a strong arm but is a bit gunslinger-ish right now. Think Tony Romo or Jay Cutler. Savage spent some time as Schiano's starter in Rutgers before inhuries derailed his career there and he transferred so BB will have some knowledge about Savage.
 
People should watch some Keith Wenning (Ball St.). Really good touch passer and best long ball accuracy in the draft. He's one of the one's we've worked out. Tom Savage (Pitt), of whom we haven't heard anything about as a Patriot workout is another underrated QB prospect. He's got a strong arm but is a bit gunslinger-ish right now. Think Tony Romo . . .

So what your saying is that he will throw awful picks early, get his team into a really big hole, start a massive comeback, and then just when it looks like he is going to pull off the comeback, he will make a god awful throw that will get intercepted and crush the hopes of the fans?

(sorry couldn't resist)
 
I don't agree with that. As bad as Eli and Flacco can be at times they were pretty much awesome during the playoffs when they won it all. Your team has to be stacked to be able to win it all without a great QB.

Look at the Bengals. They have all kinds of talent but they can't ever win a playoff game because Andy Dalton is a mental midget.

I can't defend Grossman. That was just a fluke.

I didnt say you can get there with a moron; I said you dont have to have a top-5. Plenty of game managers have won SBs. Hell, TB's first SB -- HE WAS A GAME MANAGER not a top 5 (and you can argue # 2 as well). And there are plenty more grossmans out there in the nfl history books.

Flacco had 4 good games in 2012 after a season-long meeh. that aint top-5, that is "GOT LUCKY". (he threw for the same 59% completion rate 225yd per game avg in post season, but in 16 games threw 22 TDs and in 4 PS threw 11 TDs. In 16 games he threw 10 INTs and in 4 postseason a big 0 [That was the difference]. That still doesnt make him top 5.

Eli you could have a better argument that he played as a top 5 for 2011 (and that year ONLY); his comp % for that post season is 5-10 % higher than any other year in his career before or since. And the season-year was his 2d best in 10 years. But again he hit lightening in a bottle for 4 games; GOT LUCKY ain't a HOF, top-5, legacy QB. If he protected the ball better throughout the career I would be generous to call him a good 'game manager'.

Dont get confused by the fact that avg run-of-mill QBs today can throw for 4K yards in a season. That doesnt make them GREAT.
 
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