Dr. Thomas Gill confronts columnist in locker room

[crypto]

Why shouldn't they question the treatment?

probably because they aren't medical professionals who have graduated harvard college with academic honors, received ahahahah **** it

After graduating Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude in Biology from Harvard College, Dr. Thomas Gill received his MD from Harvard Medical School. He completed his training in orthopaedic surgery at the Harvard Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program. After graduating, Dr. Gill was awarded the Maurice E. Muller Scholarship to study reconstructive surgery in Bern, Switzerland and other European academic centers. He completed his fellowship training in Sports Medicine and Shoulder Surgery at the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colorado.

Dr. Gill is an Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School. He has served as Chief of the MGH Sports Medicine Service and Director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship Program. Dr. Gill serves as the Medical Director for the New England Patriots, and previously he was the Medical Director for the Boston Red Sox and Team Physician for the Boston Bruins . He has been named to the "Top 1% of Doctors in America" and consistently is listed among the "Best Doctors in America" and "Best of Boston" physicians.

Dr. Gill is Director of Research for the Sports Medicine Service, has published over 140 peer-reviewed manuscripts and edited two text books in knee and shoulder surgery. He has received multiple research awards, including the prestigious Excellence in Research Award, Aircast Award, O'Donoghue Award and Hughston Award from the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine. He is a fellow of the American Association of Orthopedic Surgeons, a member of the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine, and a member of the Team Physician Societies of the NFL and the NHL. His work is recognized both nationally and internationally. He has been elected to the Herodicus Society, the honor society for Sports Medicine surgeons, and the American Orthopedic Association.

that's why

 

[Brady6]

According to WEEI's Lou Merloni Patriot team doctor Thomas Gill confronted WEEI columnist Mike Petraglia over a story he had written regarding Rob Gronkowski. The confrontation happened in the Patriot locker room and had Gill jabbing Petraglia in the chest with his finger. Sounds like the good (??) doctor is becoming unglued over his handy work being questioned.
Jeez, I can't understand why the Sox cut him loose. Talk about professional conduct.

No matter what it signifies a need for Gill to be replaced in this organization, fact is this level of media attention around the team doctor is ridiculous and even if things are being exaggerated Gill has still provide the media a platform to exaggerate from, you do not want this going on it does not project well for the future. If I saw my doctor arguing right or wrong with the media in the corner of the locker room I would not have a ton of trust in him, which I am sure will be the case with many current players and free agents aren’t going to view this as a great organization to join if this type of nonsense continues with are medical staff.

I do not doubt Lou was in the wrong and the aggressor but unfortunately in Gill’s position it doesn’t really matter, it is still a sign that he needs to go.

 

[Brady6]

You don't think that you can get an infection in 8 hours??

Usually infections occur in an exposed area from bacteria, unless Gronkowski bone came through the skin the infection occurring in the 8 hour period would be nearly impossible. Gronkowski is not the first player to have post-surgery issues with infections on the Patriots.

 

[Brady6]

probably because they aren't medical professionals who have graduated harvard college with academic honors, received ahahahah **** it

After graduating Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude in Biology from Harvard College, Dr. Thomas Gill received his MD from Harvard Medical School. He completed his training in orthopaedic surgery at the Harvard Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program. After graduating, Dr. Gill was awarded the Maurice E. Muller Scholarship to study reconstructive surgery in Bern, Switzerland and other European academic centers. He completed his fellowship training in Sports Medicine and Shoulder Surgery at the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colorado.

Dr. Gill is an Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School. He has served as Chief of the MGH Sports Medicine Service and Director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship Program. Dr. Gill serves as the Medical Director for the New England Patriots, and previously he was the Medical Director for the Boston Red Sox and Team Physician for the Boston Bruins . He has been named to the "Top 1% of Doctors in America" and consistently is listed among the "Best Doctors in America" and "Best of Boston" physicians.

Dr. Gill is Director of Research for the Sports Medicine Service, has published over 140 peer-reviewed manuscripts and edited two text books in knee and shoulder surgery. He has received multiple research awards, including the prestigious Excellence in Research Award, Aircast Award, O'Donoghue Award and Hughston Award from the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine. He is a fellow of the American Association of Orthopedic Surgeons, a member of the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine, and a member of the Team Physician Societies of the NFL and the NHL. His work is recognized both nationally and internationally. He has been elected to the Herodicus Society, the honor society for Sports Medicine surgeons, and the American Orthopedic Association.

that's why

At the end of the day would really expect anything less than what you’ve listed for resume items from the team doctor of a NFL, NBA or MLB franchise? He could cure cancer and there still a reason to question WTF our star tight end and our team doctors are even rumored to be at odds? It is ridiculous that there was even enough for things to elevate to this level and in my opinion the door being opened for this type of nonsenses is grounds to terminate a team doctor.

 

[BTTA]

probably because they aren't medical professionals who have graduated harvard college with academic honors, received ahahahah **** it

After graduating Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude in Biology from Harvard College, Dr. Thomas Gill received his MD from Harvard Medical School. He completed his training in orthopaedic surgery at the Harvard Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program. After graduating, Dr. Gill was awarded the Maurice E. Muller Scholarship to study reconstructive surgery in Bern, Switzerland and other European academic centers. He completed his fellowship training in Sports Medicine and Shoulder Surgery at the Steadman-Hawkins Clinic in Vail, Colorado.

Dr. Gill is an Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School. He has served as Chief of the MGH Sports Medicine Service and Director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship Program. Dr. Gill serves as the Medical Director for the New England Patriots, and previously he was the Medical Director for the Boston Red Sox and Team Physician for the Boston Bruins . He has been named to the "Top 1% of Doctors in America" and consistently is listed among the "Best Doctors in America" and "Best of Boston" physicians.

Dr. Gill is Director of Research for the Sports Medicine Service, has published over 140 peer-reviewed manuscripts and edited two text books in knee and shoulder surgery. He has received multiple research awards, including the prestigious Excellence in Research Award, Aircast Award, O'Donoghue Award and Hughston Award from the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine. He is a fellow of the American Association of Orthopedic Surgeons, a member of the American Orthopedic Society for Sports Medicine, and a member of the Team Physician Societies of the NFL and the NHL. His work is recognized both nationally and internationally. He has been elected to the Herodicus Society, the honor society for Sports Medicine surgeons, and the American Orthopedic Association.

that's why

Stop it with the facts, educated analysis, and reasonable thought. This is a Boston sports board.

 

[Deus Irae]

Stop it with the facts, educated analysis, and reasonable thought. This is a Boston sports board.

He made an appeal to authority, nothing more.

 

[Joker]

I read a lifetime accomplishment post like that and I can't get the old adage "Pride Goeth Before The Fall" out of my head. Say what you want pro or con, I only want to know why a team doctor has publicly insinuated himself into the 2013 Patriots football season, a season already wracked by controversy and turmoil. Seems rather egocentric to me,when this could have easily been handled out of sight behind closed doors.

 

[crypto]

He made an appeal to authority, nothing more.

I expected someone to bring this up, and I'm glad you did. Now I get to say that, incidentally, I have taken a course in formal logic (it was introductory), that I did quite well, that I do know how arguments work, and that - unlike an alarmingly large number of people - I know the difference between an appeal and a fallacious appeal. Appeals to authority and fallacious appeals to authority are not the same thing. It isn't illogical or otherwise unreasonable to recognize the authority of someone who is a certified medical professional over the opinion of a writer whose job is to provoke people into reading more things he (and/or his publication) produces.

Hopefully you can appreciate my perspective and aren't usually so quick to criticize people who, when discussing the field of medicine, dare to defer to the opinion of someone who "graduat[ed] Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude in Biology from Harvard College," "received his MD from Harvard Medical School," "completed his training in orthopaedic surgery at the Harvard Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program," "was awarded the Maurice E. Muller Scholarship to study reconstructive surgery," "is an Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School," "has served as Chief of the MGH Sports Medicine Service and Director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship Program," "has been named to the 'Top 1% of Doctors in America' and consistently is listed among the 'Best Doctors in America' and 'Best of Boston' physicians" (italics mine), "is Director of Research for the Sports Medicine Service," "has published over 140 peer-reviewed manuscripts and edited two text books in knee and shoulder surgery," and "has received multiple research awards."

 

[Deus Irae]

I expected someone to bring this up, and I'm glad you did. Now I get to say that, incidentally, I have taken a course in formal logic (it was introductory), that I did quite well, that I do know how arguments work, and that - unlike an alarmingly large number of people - I know the difference between an appeal and a fallacious appeal. Appeals to authority and fallacious appeals to authority are not the same thing. It isn't illogical or otherwise unreasonable to recognize the authority of someone who is a certified medical professional over the opinion of a writer whose job is to provoke people into reading more things he (and/or his publication) produces.

Hopefully you can appreciate my perspective and aren't usually so quick to criticize people who, when discussing the field of medicine, dare to defer to the opinion of someone who "graduat[ed] Phi Beta Kappa and Magna Cum Laude in Biology from Harvard College," "received his MD from Harvard Medical School," "completed his training in orthopaedic surgery at the Harvard Combined Orthopaedic Residency Program," "was awarded the Maurice E. Muller Scholarship to study reconstructive surgery," "is an Associate Professor of Orthopaedic Surgery at Harvard Medical School," "has served as Chief of the MGH Sports Medicine Service and Director of the Sports Medicine Fellowship Program," "has been named to the 'Top 1% of Doctors in America' and consistently is listed among the 'Best Doctors in America' and 'Best of Boston' physicians" (italics mine), "is Director of Research for the Sports Medicine Service," "has published over 140 peer-reviewed manuscripts and edited two text books in knee and shoulder surgery," and "has received multiple research awards."

Don't kid yourself: your post was precisely what you're trying to pretend it wasn't.

 

[upstater1]

Usually infections occur in an exposed area from bacteria, unless Gronkowski bone came through the skin the infection occurring in the 8 hour period would be nearly impossible. Gronkowski is not the first player to have post-surgery issues with infections on the Patriots.

Say what? Internal infections happen all the time. All the time. Very common. You have lots of different bacteria in your body, mostly benign. But when they get into areas they shouldn't be, they can do damage. In fact, there are all sorts of inhibitors in the body that keep these bacteria in check, and all it takes is some form of trauma to upset that balance, and suddenly the inhibitors do nothing, bacteria proliferate.

 

[Joker]

heh...not to brag...BUT...when I matriculated at B.U. many many moons ago, I also took logic.I was also an A student with a mid 3 GPA in the school of engineering. That being said, I had to just go all google and look up the difference between appeal and fallacious appeal...my point is...a little deep for a sports message board, n'est ce pas?

 

[crypto]

Don't kid yourself: your post was precisely what you're trying to pretend it wasn't.

I bet you're one of those people who will tell a low-carb dieter that the reason their physician is telling them to stop eating 10 pounds of bacon every morning is that doctors are big pharma shills and not because the aforesaid dieter might actually have a heart attack. We really need to start thinking for ourselves here instead of putting our lives in the hands of the corporate machine that is American medicine. Likewise, that one highly educated guy who's good enough at being a doctor to take care of professional athletes clearly isn't in an infinitely better position than every journalist and every poster in this thread to understand Gronkowski's condition.

To suggest that he is would be an outrageous appeal to authority !!

 

[DocHoliday]

Most people don't know surgical groups actually pay the team for the privilege of having one of their surgeons be team doctor, especially in the NFL.

It's good publicity. So no, you can't "terminate" Dr. Gill as there's a contract in place and I doubt poking someone in thr chest is a clause for termination. He's not a Patriot employee and has every reason to defend himself from bad press - especially when he's paying the team for a chance at good press.

Moreover, we're taking a reporters word that someone is poking another reporters' chest.

 

[Joker]

Most people don't know surgical groups actually pay the team for the privilege of having one of their surgeons be team doctor, especially in the NFL.

It's good publicity. So no, you can't "terminate" Dr. Gill as there's a contract in place and I doubt poking someone in thr chest is a clause for termination. He's not a Patriot employee and has every reason to defend himself from bad press - especially when he's paying the team for a chance at good press.

Moreover, we're taking a reporters word that someone is poking another reporters' chest.

at this point I guess it's proper to invoke the Tomase Corollary?

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Dr. Thomas Gill confronts columnist in locker room

I read a lifetime accomplishment post like that and I can't get the old adage "Pride Goeth Before The Fall" out of my head. Say what you want pro or con, I only want to know why a team doctor has publicly insinuated himself into the 2013 Patriots football season, a season already wracked by controversy and turmoil. Seems rather egocentric to me,when this could have easily been handled out of sight behind closed doors.

If I could like this post more than once I would, this post = perfection.

 

[Brady6]

Re: Re: Dr. Thomas Gill confronts columnist in locker room

Say what? Internal infections happen all the time. All the time. Very common. You have lots of different bacteria in your body, mostly benign. But when they get into areas they shouldn't be, they can do damage. In fact, there are all sorts of inhibitors in the body that keep these bacteria in check, and all it takes is some form of trauma to upset that balance, and suddenly the inhibitors do nothing, bacteria proliferate.

Thank you for the information I had actually thought it needed exposer, I appreciate you taking the time to explain.

 

[Ring 6]

No matter what it signifies a need for Gill to be replaced in this organization, fact is this level of media attention around the team doctor is ridiculous and even if things are being exaggerated Gill has still provide the media a platform to exaggerate from, you do not want this going on it does not project well for the future. If I saw my doctor arguing right or wrong with the media in the corner of the locker room I would not have a ton of trust in him, which I am sure will be the case with many current players and free agents aren’t going to view this as a great organization to join if this type of nonsense continues with are medical staff.

I do not doubt Lou was in the wrong and the aggressor but unfortunately in Gill’s position it doesn’t really matter, it is still a sign that he needs to go.

"Lou" was supposedly reporting the incident (although I believe he does not have access to the locker room so who knows where that came from) not the one having the discussion.

 

[IcyPatriot]

Just because there is much blood in the body does not mean that there is a lot of blood in all areas. Doctors have trouble treating and the body has trouble healing areas that have poor blood flow. Inside joints and rotator cuffs would be a few examples. Didn't we have a player who had a hard to treat bone or knee infection?

We may never know but Gronk could be a pre diabetic which would explain prone to infection and slow healing due to inadequate blood flow ... just throwing it out there ... not a doctor.

In any case picture yourself a prominent doctor and you meet up with a columnist that thinks he knows what you know ... that is a and a