Tebow released

[Joker]

I don't know...I took my older brother out for his birthday last night with three generations of our family at the Nordic Lodge. I was the only one who argued that he'd get better with reps...and THAT was about the gist of my argument...10,000 reps.

They used to have this set-up at Bryant....these tire sized rings on ropes...the object was the put the ball through the tire ring as it moved back and forth. They made intervals of 10, 15 ,20, and 30 yards and the QB's worked on their accuracy for a half hour. I don't know if they still utilize this in the bubble at Foxboro but I'd dyam sure like to see Tebow worked to distraction putting the ball through the ring.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

He gave it a shot it didn't work out, I wish Tebow the best. As fixit, noted only criminals are worth rooting against, not the good guys. When I hear "well hey, there are a lot of good guys in the nfl" my answer to them is "cool, I'll root for them as well, especially if they're a patriot"....

TT fans have been cool, I hope you guys stick around for the season or at least pop in every now and again. Battle hardened, football forum nomads, lol.

Peace...

Very well said. I'm not a TT fan per se, but, like you, I largely root for the good guys. And further than that, TT had some appealing upside that I had hoped could be utilized by the Patriots. TT has shown the big motor for competition/desire to win. He is a team guy that would take the leadership role extremely seriously and with the right mindset. He's got that big game experience/in the spotlight experience to go with the physical tools. If there was some magic out there that could have got him on a path to throwing the ball at a much better level, TT had the makings of being a franchise QB. But TT isn't the first guy to come along and have a lot of promising attributes only for it to not translate onto the field. He was given a prime opportunity with the Patriots and he couldn't make it happen. Time to turn the page.

I wish him the best. IMHO I think the CFL is a place he would have a good opportunity to get QB playing time, and may be the best place for him to try to take his throwing game in the right direction. Maybe after a couple of years come back to the NFL. With that said, the only Patriot QB talk I'm interested in is TFB remaining healthy and effective, and Mallett continuing to progress.

 

[TheBostonStraggler]

I don't know...I took my older brother out for his birthday last night with three generations of our family at the Nordic Lodge. I was the only one who argued that he'd get better with reps...and THAT was about the gist of my argument...10,000 reps.

They used to have this set-up at Bryant....these tire sized rings on ropes...the object was the put the ball through the tire ring as it moved back and forth. They made intervals of 10, 15 ,20, and 30 yards and the QB's worked on their accuracy for a half hour. I don't know if they still utilize this in the bubble at Foxboro but I'd dyam sure like to see Tebow worked to distraction putting the ball through the ring.

Joker, that takes some serious stones to be a lone voice of dissent regarding TT considering his preseason play. But was that a position you argued before or after 5 or 6 Sam Adams?

 

[Townie Towlie]

If Tebow wants to spend 300 days work (really working) with Tom House at his throwing clinic, then I'd be more than happy to see him back at Patriots training camp next season.

He's a great kid who has gotten lousy QB instruction and was not well-served in that regard. Give him intensive 300 day (with few distractions) expert throwing instruction and I'd like to see what he could do.

TBH hasn't he had that the last 3+ years as a paid NFL player and before that at a world class college? Dozens of paid position coaches - and I don't think he had a summer job to worry about paying for books.

 

[Demosthenes]

Being an accurate passer and being able to read, decipher and call correct protection audibles for a Quarterback are pretty bloody important (unless you're Jay Cutler who runs the play anyway then wonders why he's thrown an interception or has been sacked).

In most sports that I've had experiences with, the step up to the speed at the elite level is what kills most lower league stars. They look a billion dollars in the lower leagues at game speed appropriate for their level.

That's something that should never be discounted when discussing the NFL. Everything happens so damned fast.

I agree with you on all of that. I still think that if he could regain his former consistency, that other things mentioned could very well fall in to place.

I was about to type up my reasoning and "make a case" for Tebow, but then realized it's kind of moot now. At best, it would just be akin to an academic exercise.

 

[KG5]

He doesn't have former consistency. He's a sub-50% passer in the NFL.

 

[Townie Towlie]

I understand that Aus. In my view, Tebow's biggest problem is his inconsistency in passing. Reading defenses and going through progressions are secondary problems. If Tebow had gone out there and completed 60+% of his pass attempts, the conversations would have been much different.

Secondary problems ?? You get that he has that low completion percentage because he can't make the NFL caliber pre-snap defensive reads and progressions. Being able to throw a designed 8 yard out to a mega 5 star recruit being blocked for by multiple NFL first round pick Offensive lineman like he did at Florida is one thing.. but having 2.5 seconds to go thru 3 recievers and prior to that calling the correct pre-snap blocking for a safety blitz so he's not on his back as the play develops.. Come on..

 

[manxman2601]

He doesn't have former consistency. He's a sub-50% passer in the NFL.

It would help to read more than just one post because then you'll get the context. Here's what Demosthenes said just a few posts earlier:

it's because I watched Tebow throw the ball VERY CONSISTENTLY in his three years as a starter at Florida. Consistency never was a problem for him, nor was accuracy (at the college level).

 

[KG5]

That only helps if you think college is relevant to the NFL.

 

[Townie Towlie]

It would help to read more than just one post because then you'll get the context. Here's what Demosthenes said just a few posts earlier:

But again... college

Florida QB's completion %

2005 - 62.8 Leak
2006 - 63.6 Leak
2007 - 66.9 Tebow
2008 - 64.4 Tebow
2009 - 67.8 Tebow
2010 - 60.8 Brantley
2011 - 60.0 Brantley
2012 - 63.7 Driskel

 

[DarrylS]

I await the "Fitzy" take on all of this, can see him lamenting, wailing and crying over what a bad man BB is for letting Timmy go...

We need Fitzy to close the chapter on all of this...

 

[Mike the Brit]

You people are still talking about Tim Tebow? I mean, it's not as if he's Adam Seward or anything.

 

[situational_awareness]

I'm sure there are some familiar faces that will abuse Tebow fans on other sites. The reactions from Teboners to the slightest criticism is too damn funny to pass up.

I know you've been gone awhile, but the correct term is now "Tebros".

P.S.- Want to know a secret?

I am Backup QB.

 

[ausbacker]

I agree with you on all of that. I still think that if he could regain his former consistency, that other things mentioned could very well fall in to place.

I was about to type up my reasoning and "make a case" for Tebow, but then realized it's kind of moot now. At best, it would just be akin to an academic exercise.

The consistency won't fall into place because the mechanics are flawed, the mental aptitude to consistently break down defenses with the correct read isn't there and the game is simply too fast for him.

It's unfortunate but life demonstrates limitations at the elite level. Tebow is a far better athlete than Tom Brady could dream of. Tom Brady is the Quarterback Quarterbacks wish they could be. It's just one of those things.

 

[Townie Towlie]

I know you've been gone awhile, but the correct term is now "Tebros".

P.S.- Want to know a secret?

I am Backup QB.

You're our backup QB Ryan Mallett? huh ?

 

[PatsFanInVa]

But again... college

Florida QB's completion %

2005 - 62.8 Leak
2006 - 63.6 Leak
2007 - 66.9 Tebow
2008 - 64.4 Tebow
2009 - 67.8 Tebow
2010 - 60.8 Brantley
2011 - 60.0 Brantley
2012 - 63.7 Driskel

Note to myself... cut Leak too. What? He's not?

So in college, he was better than a couple of other guys not in the NFL. This is very helpful for the next time we play the Seminoles.

PFnV

 

[situational_awareness]

You're our backup QB Ryan Mallett? huh ?

No, I am Concerned Citizen's most hated Tebro.

 

[BTTA]

Good luck to Tebow, hope his life turns out well.

My wife inexplicably asked me about Tebow about 3:00AM this morning, just out of the bleeping blue, lying there in the dark. After a moment of wtf, I explained that his problems were that he held on to the ball too long, unable to decide where to throw it, and when he did throw it he was too inaccurate. She said, "is he really a virgin still, at his age?" I said that there was a lot mythology out there about him, but that was a possibility, yes. She said, "well that's enough to keep any young man from being able to make quick decisions. The Patriots should just get him laid, and see if that improves the speed of his decision making."

I thought that might be the best advice I'd heard for helping the guy out. Who knows?

 

[manxman2601]

Good luck to Tebow, hope his life turns out well.

My wife inexplicably asked me about Tebow about 3:00AM this morning, just out of the bleeping blue, lying there in the dark. After a moment of wtf, I explained that his problems were that he held on to the ball too long, unable to decide where to throw it, and when he did throw it he was too inaccurate. She said, "is he really a virgin still, at his age?" I said that there was a lot mythology out there about him, but that was a possibility, yes. She said, "well that's enough to keep any young man from being able to make quick decisions. The Patriots should just get him laid, and see if that improves the speed of his decision making."

I thought that might be the best advice I'd heard for helping the guy out. Who knows?

I got laid fairly early in life and I've made a crap load of bad decisions. I'm not sure there's a connection.

I did make them decisively though so maybe your good Lady isn't to far off the mark

 

[Brewskies]

I really would like to know why the Pats brought Tebow into camp? What was expected after they watched the tapes of his previous NFL games? Was this hype to get the focus off of the Aaron Hernandez issue and let fans have something else to talk about? What did the Pats get out of this experience?

Seem like such a waste of time and effort.


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