Why did this team sign Tebow?

[Awesomo 3000]

It's somewhat comical that you're suggesting participating in OTA's is more beneficial that the 36+ months that Tebow has spent in the NFL, practicing, training, OTA'S, live game action. As far as the playbook goes he spent his entire rookie season in a McDaniel's offense, but that doesn't count right?

When 24+ months of those are spent with the collective offensive genius of John Fox, Rex Ryan, and Tony Sparano, the regression makes alot more sense. These are among the worst offensive minds in the NFL.

Honestly I'd be in here arguing against any 3rd string QB just because I want the roster spot to go to a player more likely to contribute to the success of the team; Tebow's performance last night just validated that belief for me.

No. You're not being honest, and you aren't fooling everybody. If you were being honest, you'd admit the real reason you despise Tebow so much, and simply leave it at that. You've got a completely different bone to pick than "arguing against any 3rd string qb".

And Tebow's potential roster value is completely different than your standard 3rd string qb. His cred as a red zone power runner alone could get him a spot. You saw him run for that first down while half of the eagles' defense was piling on, right? Add in his contributions to special teams, his impressive fake punt conversion ability, occasional trick play potential, team first, work hard, leave it all on the field attitude, etc. etc. Not to mention that some feel he could be an excellent scout team quarterback. All of these combined make him a plenty viable candidate to make the team.

And finally, whether you like it or not, J.MD and BB may consider him a worthwhile investment, if they feel they can improve some of his throwing hangups. It wouldn't be the first time a team had a 3rd string project qb.

Your fake indignation at Tebow stealing a roster spot is ridiculous. You almost never see a 3rd string qb with so many other ways to contribute to the team.
He's signed for vet minimum, no guarantees, so he's pretty much a risk free investment, with tons of upside. But don't let that stop you in your crusade to squash the Terrible Tebow and his Tebot followers.

 

[supafly]

Tebow's potential roster value is completely different than your standard 3rd string qb. His cred as a red zone power runner alone could get him a spot. You saw him run for that first down while half of the eagles' defense was piling on, right? Add in his contributions to special teams, his impressive fake punt conversion ability, occasional trick play potential, team first, work hard, leave it all on the field attitude, etc. etc. Not to mention that some feel he could be an excellent scout team quarterback. All of these combined make him a plenty viable candidate to make the team.

I don't think any of us would mind him staying on, IF he's actually going to play any of those roles (aside from maybe scout team QB which is almost certain).

He's obviously got talent and other good attributes. The main problem many are having is the developmental spot of QB3 alone, although it is probably too early to judge his chances of staying in that spot one way or another.

I'd love to see him as an H-back at times, or things of that nature.

 

[Awesomo 3000]

I don't think any of us would mind him staying on, IF he's actually going to play any of those roles (aside from maybe scout team QB which is almost certain).

He's obviously got talent and other good attributes. The main problem many are having is the developmental spot of QB3 alone, although it is probably too early to judge his chances of staying in that spot one way or another.

I'd love to see him as an H-back at times, or things of that nature.

As a strictly developmental qb, he has a long way to go. He's regressed alot from his rookie year, even. Fox-Rex-Spano have worked their magic on him, for sure. I was very disappointed, watching his reluctance to even throw the ball. But if anybody can put humpty dumpty back together again, it'd be McD and BB.

But you can see that he clearly has tons more to offer than almost any other 3rd stringer would. Will BB actually use him this way? Who knows... But the option is there, and Tebow can certainly fill those roles, if he's asked to. Isn't that all we can judge on?

p.s. I would probably laugh nonstop til the end of the season if, against the jets, he put Tebow in as QB2 next to Brady. Fake power run inside... jump pass! TD! Personally, I think that possibity alone would be worth a roster spot :woohoo:

 

[manxman2601]

And Tebow's potential roster value is completely different than your standard 3rd string qb. His cred as a red zone power runner alone could get him a spot. You saw him run for that first down while half of the eagles' defense was piling on, right? Add in his contributions to special teams, his impressive fake punt conversion ability, occasional trick play potential, team first, work hard, leave it all on the field attitude, etc. etc. Not to mention that some feel he could be an excellent scout team quarterback. All of these combined make him a plenty viable candidate to make the team.

And finally, whether you like it or not, J.MD and BB may consider him a worthwhile investment, if they feel they can improve some of his throwing hangups. It wouldn't be the first time a team had a 3rd string project qb.

Your fake indignation at Tebow stealing a roster spot is ridiculous. You almost never see a 3rd string qb with so many other ways to contribute to the team.
He's signed for vet minimum, no guarantees, so he's pretty much a risk free investment, with tons of upside. But don't let that stop you in your crusade to squash the Terrible Tebow and his Tebot followers.

Agree with this completely and have been talking about Tebow's potential versatility all along. Well said.

 

[supafly]

As a strictly developmental qb, he has a long way to go. He's regressed alot from his rookie year, even. Fox-Rex-Spano have worked their magic on him, for sure. I was very disappointed, watching his reluctance to even throw the ball. But if anybody can put humpty dumpty back together again, it'd be McD and BB.

But you can see that he clearly has tons more to offer than almost any other 3rd stringer would. Will BB actually use him this way? Who knows... But the option is there, and Tebow can certainly fill those roles, if he's asked to. Isn't that all we can judge on?

p.s. I would probably laugh nonstop til the end of the season if, against the jets, he put Tebow in as QB2 next to Brady. Fake power run inside... jump pass! TD! Personally, I think that possibity alone would be worth a roster spot :woohoo:

Agree with this completely and have been talking about Tebow's potential versatility all along. Well said.

I agree with these thoughts. I think that some of the frustration and comments are stemming from the fact that he did quite poorly last night in the QB role where the offense was completely tailored to him, so that's the explanation for the posters who have been testy.

It's early yet, so we'll have to see if we can get any improvement in the next few preseason games or not. I do not want to let Mallett go though. I still believe that we definitely need a QB capable of throwing the ball downfield.

 

[DarrylS]

It never ceases to amaze this fan of how polarizing of a force Tebow is...

There is not a whole lot of grey when it comes to him...

 

[IllegalContact]

it is all a matter of whether they can do anything better with that roster spot.........

 

[BrickPat]

If Tebow made that performance in any other team jersey we'd be rightfully having a good chuckle at his terminal limitations. He his zero realistic chance of being effective if Brady goes down as the Pats would have to put in an offensive plan watered down to those limitations- not a recipe for success.

Cut Tebow...he is a waste of a #3 QB spot. I'd rather take a flyer on an unknown QB who has 5% chance of effectively stepping in for Brady as that is 5% better than Tebow.

 

[sb1]

The Patriots are a win-now football team and have been so for a long time. So don't kid yourselves...they really don't have a lot of interest in carrying Tebow at QB3 to "develop him and learn from Brady". They signed him and are carrying him to see if he can help the team win today in whatever role BB and Josh see fit. It's not like we're talking about a young and green QB prospect fresh out of college, we're talking about a soon to be 26 year old playing on his 3rd team, in his 4th year in the league.

And this isn't a charity, it's a football team with an all time great coach and an all time great QB trying to win at least one more ring before the clock runs out on either of them.


That's why IMO if there are any more performances like the other night, he will not be long for this team.

 

[Ring 6]

The Patriots are a win-now football team and have been so for a long time. So don't kid yourselves...they really don't have a lot of interest in carrying Tebow at QB3 to "develop him and learn from Brady". They signed him and are carrying him to see if he can help the team win today in whatever role BB and Josh see fit. It's not like we're talking about a young and green QB prospect fresh out of college, we're talking about a soon to be 26 year old playing on his 3rd team, in his 4th year in the league.

And this isn't a charity, it's a football team with an all time great coach and an all time great QB trying to win at least one more ring before the clock runs out on either of them.


That's why IMO if there are any more performances like the other night, he will not be long for this team.

Patriots are totally the opposite if a win now and ignore the future team.

 

[Rob0729]

Twenty five pages on a third string QB at best and at worst a roster cut before the 53.

 

[ausbacker]

The Patriots are a win-now football team and have been so for a long time. So don't kid yourselves...they really don't have a lot of interest in carrying Tebow at QB3 to "develop him and learn from Brady". They signed him and are carrying him to see if he can help the team win today in whatever role BB and Josh see fit. It's not like we're talking about a young and green QB prospect fresh out of college, we're talking about a soon to be 26 year old playing on his 3rd team, in his 4th year in the league.

And this isn't a charity, it's a football team with an all time great coach and an all time great QB trying to win at least one more ring before the clock runs out on either of them.


That's why IMO if there are any more performances like the other night, he will not be long for this team.

How can a team be win-now for a long time? Most teams are lucky if they have a 2 year win-now period. The Patriots are a win now team because Belichick and his team plan for today, tomorrow and have arguably the GOAT playing Quarterback.

The Patriots have been able to stay close to the top given the combination of Brady, Belichick, ownership, win now and future planning.

 

[Ring 6]

I don't think any of us would mind him staying on, IF he's actually going to play any of those roles (aside from maybe scout team QB which is almost certain).

He's obviously got talent and other good attributes. The main problem many are having is the developmental spot of QB3 alone, although it is probably too early to judge his chances of staying in that spot one way or another.

I'd love to see him as an H-back at times, or things of that nature.

The other players we gave at hback are much better.
What is the point of putting a guy with no experience blocking running routes or catching passes at a position where those are the requirements?

 

[Armchair Quarterback]

When 24+ months of those are spent with the collective offensive genius of John Fox, Rex Ryan, and Tony Sparano, the regression makes alot more sense. These are among the worst offensive minds in the NFL.
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His cred as a red zone power runner alone could get him a spot
His impressive fake punt conversion ability
Occasional trick play potential
Team first, work hard, leave it all on the field attitude, etc. etc.
Not to mention that some feel he could be an excellent scout team quarterback.
All of these combined make him a plenty viable candidate to make the team.

You're just reaching (really reaching) for excuses to justify using a roster spot on him because it's clear he can't play QB (through no fault of his own apparently). It's Rex Ryan's fault he can't make more than one read, It's Fox's fault he can't hit a wide open receiver, It's Fist Pump's fault he holds the ball for 11 seconds before getting sacked.

Will he officially be listed as scout team QB on the 53 man roster? I ask because they've somehow managed all these years without reserving a spot on the 53 for the scout team QB.

 

[Ironman44]

I'll finally weigh in after observing reaction for a few days .

Tebow sucked, he held on to the ball too long and missed open receivers . Yes he made plays with his feet and extended a drive but overall it was a poor performance .

Some will point out he has not played in over a year , has had a short time with offense or even that it really wasn't in the cards for him to get so much time in that game .

Whatever .

It doesnt matter why he played poorly , it could have been because the phase of the moon and sun were not in alignment , it doesn't matter .

Tebow has this (quite possibly and realistically ) final shot to make it in the NFL at QB . He has to out play all expectation of him just being a QB 3 . He really needs to bring it the next time he gets a shot . It doesn't matter if that is fair or not , it is what it is.

And You know what ? I am 100% certain he understands it and because he DOES have the clutch gene , he might surprise us all the next time .

As a big fan of his I am just hoping there is a next time .

 

[situational_awareness]

Thread now official.



Anyways, let's see how the preseason pans out before getting all crazy about QB3. At least he didn't Sanchez himself and throw a pick six on his first series.

 

[JakeGirl]

Tebow brings a lot of good things to the Pats. OK, he's not a polished Brady like passer- we get it. But for a 3rd stringer, he has playoff experience, he can run an Option Run Game like nobody's business (while running defenders over- I love this), he can run practice squad when Pats take on more mobile QB's (which is just a fact in the NFL now), he can help you in special teams - don't laugh, but I would not be surprised to see punt protected back this year and at least a couple fake punts, and he's a great locker room/fan favorite/PR guy. And he's not costing you a thing! I think it's worth keeping Teebs on your roster. BB will hopefully use him at what he does best...and not try to make him into something he's not. We shall see!

 

[RayClay]

Tebow brings a lot of good things to the Pats. OK, he's not a polished Brady like passer- we get it. But for a 3rd stringer, he has playoff experience, he can run an Option Run Game like nobody's business (while running defenders over- I love this), he can run practice squad when Pats take on more mobile QB's (which is just a fact in the NFL now), he can help you in special teams - don't laugh, but I would not be surprised to see punt protected back this year and at least a couple fake punts, and he's a great locker room/fan favorite/PR guy. And he's not costing you a thing! I think it's worth keeping Teebs on your roster. BB will hopefully use him at what he does best...and not try to make him into something he's not. We shall see!

Costs a roster spot and a vet minimum compared to the lowest salary

 

[manxman2601]

Costs a roster spot.

So did Jake Bequette. That roster spot got us one tackle last year. In fact, checking his stats, it didn't even get us that.

 

[Bruins29]

Tebow brings a lot of good things to the Pats. OK, he's not a polished Brady like passer- we get it. But for a 3rd stringer, he has playoff experience, he can run an Option Run Game like nobody's business (while running defenders over- I love this), he can run practice squad when Pats take on more mobile QB's (which is just a fact in the NFL now), he can help you in special teams - don't laugh, but I would not be surprised to see punt protected back this year and at least a couple fake punts, and he's a great locker room/fan favorite/PR guy. And he's not costing you a thing! I think it's worth keeping Teebs on your roster. BB will hopefully use him at what he does best...and not try to make him into something he's not. We shall see!

He is not even a polished Mallet like passer. And Mallet is hardly impressive. And the point is we dont need a 3rd string QB. Never have. If we need a 3rd Stringer than that means we have a backup QB who isnt up to snuff. So, lets fix that much more important issue....yes??

I wish TT was good enough to be a solid backup because he has a couple more uses than a normal backup. And BTW he is costing the Pats something and its very valuable.. Its a roster spot.

He is just $hitt y and people just cant admit it. And I like the guy and like that he is here making the Pats the feature national games.