Content Post The 2011 season: The Jets Suck (merged a lot)

[FreeTedWilliams]

Apparently his contract makes him un-trade and/or cut able.........

I loved the article where Sanchez calls a meeting, Holmes makes fun of him at the meeting, and then Sanchez calls another meetings and Holmes doesn't even bother to show up....

Could you imagine anyone doing that to TFB??


The Jets are imploding and frankly, it is fun to watch.....

 

[Rob0729]

Apparently his contract makes him un-trade and/or cut able.........

I loved the article where Sanchez calls a meeting, Holmes makes fun of him at the meeting, and then Sanchez calls another meetings and Holmes doesn't even bother to show up....

Could you imagine anyone doing that to TFB??


The Jets are imploding and frankly, it is fun to watch.....

Apparently he can be traded:

The Jets Options With Santoio Holmes

I expect a huge bidding war for Holmes. How can a team not want to trade for an underachieving WR who is probably more of a #2 than a #1, is a huge locker room cancer and not well liked by his teammates, is one strike away from a year long suspension, and will have $15 million in guarantees still left on his contract if he is on the Jets' roster or traded to another team when the football year starts? I bet the Jets can get two first rounders for him. Maybe the Colts will trade the first overall pick for Holmes.

 

[Tunescribe]

There will be some damage from this but they can trade him.

This is discussed in gory detail here btw:
The Jets Options With Santoio Holmes

Now Green Beans fans are talking about KEEPING Holmes IF the team brings in a new offensive coordinator to get him "more involved." A new offensive coordinator to replace the one Wrecks said is staying. OK.

I don't understand why some of these folks persist in being fans of that team. They're to the point of conjuring theoretical scenarios that have no basis in reality. If that's what it takes to generate hope going forward, it can't be healthy.

 

[Metaphors]

This is a huge offseason for the Jets. They have surprisingly few core players that don't need to be evaluated:

Keller, Conner, Kerley, Ferguson (though he is pricey for his production), Mangold and Moore on offense. Pouha, Wilkerson, Harris, Revis and Cromartie on defense. Only 11 players in the starters and top reserves.

They have a handful of players that desperately need to be replaced...Hunter, Slauson, Ducasse, Mulligan, Scott, Pace and ESmith. The good news is that this list can be addressed effectively through the draft if they hit all their picks.

The real issue is that they have a couple of players that will determine if they make fundamental changes this offseason or if they still believe they have the team to win a Super Bowl:

- Sanchez is the obvious starting point. He didn't make a leap forward this year so there are doubts that he is capable of being a top QB. Likely he gets another year but he is now playing for his job.

- Greene is a fine RB but doesn't look to be a guy that can carry an offense on his back. No disgrace in that but the Jets may be tempted if a real workhouse becomes available.

- Holmes and Burress will be the real determiner of change. Holmes will be back pending him literally firebombing the team's facilities. Burress is old and slow but was a reliable outlet. If he comes back, that really means the organization has convinced itself that they have a title contender.

- Scott and Pace are not producing anywhere near their pay level. With BThomas already gone, that means a near complete revamp of the LBs on a 3-4 defense. Maybin teased enough to return but he is only a situational player. If the Jets whiff on their LB replacements, their defense could follow their offense into mediocrity.

- Leonard is a glue guy in the secondary but he is amazingly limited. With Pool not being much of a leader, Leonard likely stays to babysit the new players in the back 8.

With the Pats just looking to sign their own (Welker, Carter, Anderson) and plug a couple of holes with 5 top 100 draft picks and plenty of cap space...

And with Miami being a consistent QB away from taking a step up in the division...

And with Buffalo showing signs of improvement (if they can stay healthy) having lots of talented youngsters...

The Jets have to be torn whether to stay the course and risk a slow decent to division doormat or to make fundamental changes and risk a rebuilding year that could lose jobs in the front office. Nervous days indeed in the swamps of Jersey.

 

[Tunescribe]

The Jets have to be torn whether to stay the course and risk a slow decent to division doormat or to make fundamental changes and risk a rebuilding year that could lose jobs in the front office. Nervous days indeed in the swamps of Jersey.

After yesterday's hallucinogenic press conference followed by further bizarreness from team members and the fan base, I have concluded that the ENTIRE Green Beans universe has made a psychotic break with reality. Going forward it would be a mistake to ascribe any logic to the team's machinations or fan ruminations. They're not nervous, they're a bag of escaped doorknobs.

 

[Haley]

Now Green Beans fans are talking about KEEPING Holmes IF the team brings in a new offensive coordinator to get him "more involved." A new offensive coordinator to replace the one Wrecks said is staying. OK.

I don't understand why some of these folks persist in being fans of that team. They're to the point of conjuring theoretical scenarios that have no basis in reality. If that's what it takes to generate hope going forward, it can't be healthy.

If they keep him they are even dumber than they look in those green bean outfits of theirs. Who keeps a guy that doesn't want to play? Seriously, who does that?!? Heck, pay ME all those millions to ride the sideline surfboard!

Man what a disaster. Rex really ought to hire his team a leader who could keep the players in line. They could use one of those I think. What do they call those again?? ....oh yeah .... A COACH! :bricks:

 

[Deus Irae]

SNY Schein/Carlin: "Plax won't be back with Jets in 2012"
Citing 3 factors:

1) He has shown enough to the league for others to guage his worth and IN ALL PROBABILITY he will receive an offer from another team in excess of what the Jets are willing to spend on him.

2) He privately is VERY unhappy with Sanchez as his QB and would love to catch passes from an "elite" thrower.

3) Simply put, he doesnt want to play for the Jets beyond the one season they gave him to re-establish humself.

Jets Insider.com Forums - View Single Post - SNY Schein/Carlin: "Plax won't be back with Jets in 2012"

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

listen to this idiot

Sanchez: 32 TD's and 18 Interceptions...Regression? - TheGangGreen.com Message Board

I blame him and again Wayne Hunter for not defending Sanchez. Hopefully they improve his ball security, thats on the coaches to.

that kid is an idiot

 

[Deus Irae]

listen to this idiot

Sanchez: 32 TD's and 18 Interceptions...Regression? - TheGangGreen.com Message Board




that kid is an idiot

Nothing is the fault of Sanchez. Once you understand that thought, you understand where a huge chunk of that fan base is coming from.



There's a whole lot of stupid going on over there.

 

[Brady_to_Moss]

Nothing is the fault of Sanchez. Once you understand that thought, you understand where a huge chunk of that fan base is coming from.



There's a whole lot of stupid going on over there.

He is blaming their o-line, and coaches...coaches for ball security...really? How are they allowed to reproduce!

Also he doesn't see where sanchez has regressed. One poster was spot on...saying when the season was on the line (last few games) he blew it..where as years past..he would pull the wins out of his ass somehow. Most jets fans think he has regressed. But you have idiots like this that just take the cake.

what goons

 

[Rob0729]

Now Green Beans fans are talking about KEEPING Holmes IF the team brings in a new offensive coordinator to get him "more involved." A new offensive coordinator to replace the one Wrecks said is staying. OK.

I don't understand why some of these folks persist in being fans of that team. They're to the point of conjuring theoretical scenarios that have no basis in reality. If that's what it takes to generate hope going forward, it can't be healthy.

Jets fans are convinced that if they had another OC other than Schottenheimer that they would have probably won the AFC East and be the odds on favorite to win the Super Bowl. They even believe guys like Brady, Brees, and Rodgers couldn't perform in his offense and would be as bad as Sanchez.

Yes, Schotty is not a very good OC, but he has a very limited QB with a mediocre o-line, RBs, and receiving corp to work with. I think they hinder Schottenheimer more than Schottenheimer hinders them.

 

[Deus Irae]

Fun exercise thought of by a Jets fan:

Name 7 left tackles better than Brick.

Name 7 TE's better than Keller.

Jets Insider.com Forums - View Single Post - ESPN Kay: "Ferguson regressed & got Sanchez KILLED/Ducasse is a BUST"


I figure "arguable" should be good enough.....

 

[Joker]

all anyone needs to remember is the Ray Ray 19 corollary that follows from the famous Wrecks Cryan theorem that the Jets will win the Super Bowl THIS year..every year...and that corollary is "Brady in the twilight!!Sanchez elite!!! CEILING UNLIMITED!!!"...to understand this, of course, one needs a masters degree in abnormal psychology and at least ten years of "in field" study to even begin to try to decipher what it all means to Jet fan.

 

[Deus Irae]

He is blaming their o-line, and coaches...coaches for ball security...really? How are they allowed to reproduce!

Also he doesn't see where sanchez has regressed. One poster was spot on...saying when the season was on the line (last few games) he blew it..where as years past..he would pull the wins out of his ass somehow. Most jets fans think he has regressed. But you have idiots like this that just take the cake.

what goons

It's great stuff. Pretty much all fan bases are alike. They've got their binkies and whipping boys, they defend the indefensible, etc... The Jets fans seem to be the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to brain power, though.




Maybe it's because most of the smarter NY/NJ fans follow other local teams.

 

[Rob0729]

Fun exercise thought of by a Jets fan:



Jets Insider.com Forums - View Single Post - ESPN Kay: "Ferguson regressed & got Sanchez KILLED/Ducasse is a BUST"


I figure "arguable" should be good enough.....

I don't follow tackles enough, but TEs are easy:

Gronk
Hernandez
Graham
Davis
Gonzalez
Witten
Finley
Gresham
Dallas Clark with a real QB and healthy
Gates when healthy

Keller is one of the most overrated TEs in the league.

 

[JoeSixPat]

That team has a lot more problems than Tony Romo.

Mark Sanchez on the other hand is still playing like a rookie

He's not quite that bad... Most people forget that he left college as a junior and is only in his third season.

Another team, with a qualified head coach, likely would have let him learn for a season, then started him in Year 2.

Wrecks hurts his QBs development by making promises his players can't keep. Most qualified coaches wouldn't think of guaranteeing a Super Bowl with such a young inexperienced coach.

Sanchrez's development or lack thereof reflects his coach more than himself. I have a feeling he'd do much better in a different environment.

 

[Tunescribe]

It's great stuff. Pretty much all fan bases are alike. They've got their binkies and whipping boys, they defend the indefensible, etc... The Jets fans seem to be the absolute bottom of the barrel when it comes to brain power, though.

I believe Green Beans fans are in an entirely different category, apart from the rest of the league. They exhausted viable rationalizations for the team's futility years ago and have embraced denial, delusion, weird imaginings and outright fantasy to maintain false hope. Decade upon decade of disappointment and failure has bred a culture of despair and desperation around that team so wretched that any mature, sane individual simply would move on. What you have left is a veritable carnival of fools.

 

[reflexblue]

I believe Green Beans fans are in an entirely different category, apart from the rest of the league. They exhausted viable rationalizations for the team's futility years ago and have embraced denial, delusion, weird imaginings and outright fantasy to maintain false hope. Decade upon decade of disappointment and failure has bred a culture of despair and desperation around that team so wretched that any mature, sane individual simply would move on. What you have left is a veritable carnival of fools.

At this point its probably passed down genetically. Each new generation more delusional than the last.

 

[Tunescribe]

At this point its probably passed down genetically. Each new generation more delusional than the last.

They're slowly devolving into a race of moronic mutants.

 

[Joker]

no no no...Jet fan is an entirely new SPECIES...fans of all other 31 teams are still classified as "Homo Sapiens"...Jet fan belongs to this new startling off shoot of the supposedly extinct "Homo Erectus" hominid...to wit.."Homo Dejectus"....