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You sir, are a moron. Someone questions why our team trades out of a prime slot of the draft, something they do every single year, and this is the best you can do ? I listed some major concerns, and you decide to drink the koolaid instead. The last time the Pats actually took both first round picks was in 2004 (Wilfork and Watson), and they won the SB that year. We've had two #1 picks several times in the last 7 years since, and have passed on several players that would have helped us.

They already have lost out on a chance for Heyward, Wilkerson and Ingram. By giving up that chance, they now pretty much have to pick a D-lineman with Pick 33, when they could have picked Heyward or Wilkerson at 28, and adressed another need with a Torrey Smith at 33, or a second defensive player at 33. Heyward and Bowers or Heyward and Brooks Reed sure sounds better than just one defensive lineman and a #1 pick next year (that most likely will be traded). It may be good ASSET management, but you can't build a team with assets, you have to build it with actual players. No way they draft all 3 picks in tomorrows second round.

Name calling doesn't really show your maturity well.

I would argue we didn't trade out of the "sweet spot" of the draft, rather we traded into this years "sweet spot" and hopefully picked up a pick which could put us into next year's draft "sweet spot"
 
With this amount of time leading up to our pick. How can we not trade it? Should be an interesting second round. If we can squeeze another future first and keep two second rounders. That would be ok with me.

Could not agree more.
 
A rookie cap is really only going hurt the first 10 picks. A late 1st rd pick is not going to demand a lot of money.

It's still 1st round money. 2nd round money is a steep drop off. I am not sure what it is right now, but a few years ago the average guaranteed salary for a first round pick was 11,000,000 something, and 2nd round was 1,900,000.

That spells HUGE savings.

This allows us to keep quite a few 2nd round picks on the roster for a long time. Talk about maximizing your value!
 
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Maybe the 2 #1's in 2012 will be packaged to pick the #1 QB in the draft....


Andrew Luck!

I hope Brady plays for a long long time, but, that being said, it is something to consider.
 
No Heyward or Wilkerson at 33?

Egg on the face of the Patriots FO. No one there that I like.
 
Wasted 1st round pick

I can't BB wasted a first on a special teamer CB. Absolute bust. Might be good for a few returned kicks, but no way he'll ever be a starter or even make the Pro Bowl. :D
 
I wonder if we get P. Thomas tomorrow. Maybe for a conditional pick.
 
I think the Pats will trade down from #33 again. One of the teams that missed out on a QB in the 1st round will want to get after Dalton or Kaepernick.

Hopefully, after the tradedown, the guy the Pats take at #40ish is the guy they wanted all along at 28/33. It's pretty hard to turn down a 2nd and 1st round pick for #28. That's some good value there.

This isn't a critique of the trade, but if you follow the theory that trading a pick for one the year later means it's worth one round higher, then the value of the Saints picks was exactly the value of the Patriots first rounder assuming the saints get the 3rd seed in the NFC (i.e. assuming the Saints pick is about 28 or 29 next year).

so, valuewise, the trade was even.

That's why I believe Belichick did not like ANY player there, and he probably has his eye on Sheard, Houston or a guard.
 
No Heyward or Wilkerson at 33?

Egg on the face of the Patriots FO. No one there that I like.


welp ... that is it .... guess we are headed for just another 14-2 season .... how dissapointing!
 
Also, Wanted to comment on trading down. I really dont mind trading out of 28. Not a huge difference between that pick and an early second rounder. But, It would be nice to move up one of these days.
 
No Heyward or Wilkerson at 33?

Egg on the face of the Patriots FO. No one there that I like.

Holy crap, if there is no one there you like we should just pass on all of our picks.
 
LOL

I know this was a joke....right?

I think at some point the Pats will end up packaging their picks to move up, be it for a quarterback or a d lineman, I have no idea. At some point they may want to grab another QB. Just don't know at this point.
 
Reggie Bush think's he's done in New Orleans, I'd take a look at him.
 
Wanna use at least one of the thirds tomorrow to maneuver one of the lower 2nd rounders nearer to the lower 30s.

Would like to trade the #33 also, I want three 1st rounders for next year to get Andrew Luck in 2012. :p
 
Grid, never let your detractors stop you my eccentric friend. I've got your back. The Solder pick was scheme-perfect and the trade-out fortified the future rounds. I can't wait to see how the future rounds play out. Not to sound like a douche (and, yeah, this is gonna sound douchey) I'm glad to see that many of the projections we harped on remained true. Especially Jordan. As much as I hate self reverence I was executing a perfect celebratory booty dance when Jordan was taken by a 43 team.
 
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