Alright I will start out by saying that your little league analogy is ridiculous, and has nothing to do with this debate and my stance.
Its a perfect analogy. Every time you are proven wrong you switch gears.
I am not making a hypothetical argument, I am making a statement and am backing it up with proof. Sunday nights game is a perfect example.
Of course you are making a hypothetical argument. You are hypothesizing how the defense would play if the offense had a bad day based on how they played in other situations and totally ignoring how they have performed with the game on the line.
Are you really saying that the Jets and Ravens defenses are better than the Patriots defense? The Jets defense is like the Patriots offense, the Jets defense carries the Jets to wins, just like the Patriots offense. The Jets offense complements the Jets defense, just like the Patriots defense complements the Patriots offense. As for the Ravens, you said the Patriots are just an average defense, but now you are saying that the Ravens are worse than the Patriots? So the Ravens are a below average defense? Are you serious? The Ravens struggle against the Pats but are 10th in total defense, 5th in rushing defense and 4th in points per game. Both of these defenses are much better than the Patriots. Just because the Patriots have forced turnovers and had 2 stops at end of games does not make them better than the Ravens are Jets.
I could care less about the better statistics that a team accumulate while winning less games.
The Jets and Ravens defenses have CONSISTENTLY failed in the 4th quarter. The Jets offense actually balied out there defense in all of those close wins vs bad teams. Werent you paying attention?
See, here is where we go in opposite directions.
The Patriots win 35-24 and the defense gives up a lot of yards but the game is never in jeopardy. The Jets win 35-3.
Then next week the Patriots win 35-24 and the Jets either lose 21-17 because the defense allowed the other team to score a go ahead 4th quarter TD, or they win 24-21 because the offense came back and scored again.
You think that means the Jets have a better defense because they have better statistics.
I say the plays that decide football games mean 1000 times more than the ones that are irrelevant to outcome.
The Ravens, Jets, Steelers all have the defenses to stop the Patriots offense and force the defense to win a game. Dont say that well the Patriots have already beaten all of those teams. The playoffs is a whole different season and prior games mean nothing.
That is plain stupid. When they played against each other it is meaningless but the statistics they got against other teams is meaningful?
Did the Patriots defense virtually shut out the Jets? Did it stone the Steelers until the game was out of hand? Did it shut down the Ravens when the game was on the line?
Head to head, the Patriot defense outplayed each of them BY A LOT. Yet, you think they must be better because you are counting yards?
Do the Jets get more credit for holding Cincy to 10 while winning than we do because they scored meaningless points vs us?
Does the Jet D get more credit for allowing 17 to Pitt than we get for playing better than they did before the game was out of hand?
I would say that the Ravens and Steelers offenses definitely have the ability to put up points on the Patriots defense. How confident would you be in playing any of those teams if you knew that the Patriots played like it did Sunday night against the Packers?
How confident would you be in the Jets if they played like they did AGAINST US, or the Steelers if they played like they did AGAINST US or the Ravens if they played like they did blowing a huge lead to Buffalo, or the other leads they blew?
It seems your standard is the worst day of the Patriots must beat the best day of anyone else, and anything that favors the Patriots, you know, like how they play, doesnt count.
Even if just the offense struggles, how confident are you in the defense? They played terrible against a back up QB Sunday night and were lucky to come away with the win. Terrible clock management at the end definitely had something to do with that, and if a decent QB was in that situation at the end of the game the result probably would have been different.
And the Steelers and Ravens and Jets ACTUALLY LOST 4 GAMES.
We can't win because we had a close game that you want to make excuses for the other team, but they are unbeatable because they lose more?
You just seem overly confident in the defense for the playoffs.
I say that this defense has made the plays when they have had to and statistic and insignificant scores in garbage time do not matter.
I am worried about the defense. Only 4 times all season has the defense given up less than 20 points. What if the offense cannot put up 20 points,
Why aren't you saying what if the Jets cant keep 35 off the board?
It is not an even playing field. Our offense is the highest scoring in the NFL. It is very unlikely it will fail in the playoffs. When it has in the regular season almost every time the defense has stepped up.
does the defense have the ability to hold a quality offense to 14-17 points? If the offense struggles in the playoffs, our chances of winning get very slim.
The chance of the offense struggling is very slim. No matter how many times you want to keep repeating yourself statistics, yardage totals, time of possession or whatever you want to pull out of your @ss are not a better gauge of what a defense will do when they need a stop to win a game than what they do when they need a stop to win a game.
Throw out the insignificant statistics and answer this statistical question. What defense has the best statistics at stopping the other team when the game is on the line. If your answer is honest, it will be the Patriots.
Now tell me why those other stats you love so much are a better indicator of what the defense will do when the game is on the line.
