The Jets suck (merged)

[Deus Irae]

Almost everyone who had him ranked higher had no where near the information that the Patriots had? What is this spygate part 2? lol naaa I'm just busting balls. Whos better? That is left TBD for the regular season when they actually get on the field.

I agree that evaluating draftees cannot be done until they play in games. That's why the tight end position can't be evaluated.



Oh, and the Jets suck.

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

It's pretty pathetic that Jets fans feel the need to gloat about an AFCCG appearance.

Just saying.

Find something else for Jets fans to gloat about please. 2002 AFC East Champs!!!!!!!!

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

I'm telling you, durring that colts jets regular season game (the one where the colts laid down, and LET the jets win) I turned to my brother and said, "This jets offense may be the most boring I have ever saw" They barley put it together to beat the colts back ups..It was like the raiders played more exciting football. Yea, yea their def. may be good bud dang, that O was HORRIBLE..yet another reason why the jets suck.

Of course it was boring. They had a 60/40 run/pass ratio. And that 40% passing rate was often ugly because of Sanchez's play. It worked for them though.

 

[Shaun John 9294]

I agree that evaluating draftees cannot be done until they play in games. That's why the tight end position can't be evaluated.



Oh, and the Jets suck.

Yea but I think you can have reasonable expectations. For the TE position you got the overweight pilsbury dough boy, a rookie who hasn't played in a year because of a back injury and another rookie. I don't know about you but that situation doesn't' scream high probability of setting the world on fire. But then again you never know. Stranger things have happened.

Pathetic Patriots haha

 

[Deus Irae]

Yea but I think you can have reasonable expectations. For the TE position you got the overweight pilsbury dough boy, a rookie who hasn't played in a year because of a back injury and another rookie. I don't know about you but that situation doesn't' scream high probability of setting the world on fire. But then again you never know. Stranger things have happened.

Pathetic Patriots haha

Again, the Patriots don't need their tight ends to be their #2 receiver the way the Jets did last year. Crumpler can block, and will catch a few passes. That's what the system calls for. Keller can catch passes, and will block on occasion, that's what's needed in New York. However, if you're going to play "reasonable expectations", that allows the Patriots fans to have "reasonable expectations" about their choice of McCourty over Wilson. After all, it's two rookies playing the same level on the field (DB), and taken in the first round. I believe that the last time this happened with these two teams, It was Mayo v. Gholston, and we know how that matchup has turned out.

 

[Leave No Doubt]

God, I just hope we score a TD.
How do you make those paper bags that go over your head? Jets fans?

 

[Kontradiction]

Butler allowed nearly identical numbers in coverage compared to Cromartie just on a smaller scale. Cromartie is much more gifted and a better ballhawk while Butler is more physical. I prefer the playmaking corner so in my opinion I'll take Cromartie.

Darius Butler (2009): 35 tackles, 8 passes defensed, 3 INTs, 91 RY's, 1 TD
Antonio Cromartie (2009): 33 tackles, 10 passes defensed, 3 INT's, 17 RY's, 0 TD's

Cromartie started in all 16 games for the Chargers. Butler started in 5. We've now established that Butler is the more willing and able tackler, is just as much (if not more) of a ballhawk than Cromartie is, and is more dangerous with the ball in his hands afterward. On top of that, Cromartie is said to be as dumb as a rock (couldn't even pick up the FSU playbook) while Butler seems to be pretty bright. Like I said in my original statement, Butler > Cromartie.

McCourtney and Wilson have never played a single down in the NFL but Wilson was rated higher then McCourtney for almost everyone. Let's just call this one TBD.

Based on what I've seen in post draft write-ups and videos of their college careers, McCourty appears to be the better pure cornerback. As for the scouting reports, both have the same measurables (height, weight, 40 time). Both seem to have good ball skills and good instincts. McCourty seems to pass Wilson as a more dangerous return man and did it against better (though not much better) competition in the Big East. I'm not sure what you mean by "everyone" having Wilson ranked higher. For instance, WalterFootball had Wilson ranked #2 and McCourty ranked #3...

WalterFootball.com: 2010 NFL Draft: Cornerback Rankings

...while Gil Brandt on NFL.com had McCourty ranked #4 and Wilson ranked #14 out of all senior cornerbacks.

Senior class of cornerbacks solid heading into 2010 draft

All in all, we can only judge by what they've done in college. But, based on what I've seen, McCourty appears to be the better all around threat. We shall see.

We don't have Strickland anymore but we still have Lowery. I don't know enough about Wilhitte to make a call so tis whatever i'll take a toss up. If he is a solid cover corner I'll take your guy.

Eh, it's a wash.

I think both your safeties are better. Overall I think the Jets have more potential because of our trio at CB and their outstanding upside IMO.

One of them is possibly the best CB in the league, the other is an overrated idiot who got outperformed in 2009 by our rookie, and the third is a rookie. Like I said before, I'd take our entire secondary over your's, but Revis is better than any one CB we have.

 

[Joker]

Jet fan is so stupid he only wears the paper bag when they're winning...

 

[Kontradiction]

I agree that evaluating draftees cannot be done until they play in games. That's why the tight end position can't be evaluated.



Oh, and the Jets suck.

Eh, I'm basically going by what I saw in college. I agree they still have to translate to the pros.

 

[Kontradiction]

Find something else for Jets fans to gloat about please. 2002 AFC East Champs!!!!!!!!

At least you have a sense of humor about it.

 

[Kontradiction]

Yea but I think you can have reasonable expectations. For the TE position you got the overweight pilsbury dough boy, a rookie who hasn't played in a year because of a back injury and another rookie. I don't know about you but that situation doesn't' scream high probability of setting the world on fire. But then again you never know. Stranger things have happened.

Pathetic Patriots haha

Hernandez is going to be more of a slot receiver than a TE.

 

[Deus Irae]

Eh, I'm basically going by what I saw in college. I agree they still have to translate to the pros.

I get what you're doing, but Vernon Gholston would like to remind you not to do it.

 

[efin98]

Dude, among other assorted joys, you've got:

A coach who can't lose weight without resorting to life-threatening surgery, because the only time he can shut his mouth is when it's got food in it.

A man who remembers "Be fruitful and multiply" but has forgotten how to tackle.

A CB who thinks he's worth $20m a year.

A WR who's one slip away from an 8 or more game suspension.

A WR who might be facing a suspension in week 1, and who's one screw up away from a serious time out.

A RB who had a few decent weeks when he was fresher than everyone else now serving as your 'workhorse' back.

The classiest has-been in the NFL for your backup RB.

A QB who was the second worst in the game last season and seems to vapor lock under any consistent pressure.

A LB who's always going to be one piss test away from another extended vacation.

A NT who's clocking in at 390 lbs post-op.

A near-rookie replacing Faneca, leaving D'Bust to face life without his woobie.

A schedule would could easily result in a 1-5 start heading into the bye, and a matchup with the Packers coming out of that.


Or, to sum it up more succinctly: The Jets suck.

First Mega Maid, now this methodical, logistically sound post that is more solid than a diamond.

You. Are. The. Man. This. Thread.

 

[Rex Ryan's Gut]

this should be an ... entertaining ... thread.

Looks like post #2 in this thread was spot on.

 

[Kontradiction]

I get what you're doing, but Vernon Gholston would like to remind you not to do it.

Even excluding Wilson and McCourty, I would still take the Pats secondary as a whole over the Jets'. It's the safety position that swings it for the Pats to me. I think I made a pretty solid argument for Butler over Cromartie though.

 

[Too_Funny]

First Mega Maid, now this methodical, logistically sound post that is more solid than a diamond.

You. Are. The. Man. This. Thread.

I get it...

So I can be logistically sound as long as I conform to online rumors and message board humor.

Boy, the internet sure makes me feel smarter!

 

[Too_Funny]

Even excluding Wilson and McCourty, I would still take the Pats secondary as a whole over the Jets'. It's the safety position that swings it for the Pats to me. I think I made a pretty solid argument for Butler over Cromartie though.

Every team in the national football league would take Revis over the entire Pats squad.

Then they would find a way to piece together what is left.

You're better than this.

 

[Joker]

3 posts in and you have managed to leap right into 1st place in the "Intergalactic Moron Of The Year" contest here at PF. Congrats on the sucky job.

 

[Kontradiction]

Every team in the national football league would take Revis over the entire Pats squad.

Then they would find a way to piece together what is left.

You're better than this.

I would take Revis over any one cornerback that we have on our roster. However, I wouldn't take him or the Jets' secondary as a whole over the secondary we have right now. Sure, you can have Revis. When you pay him $20M a year, best of luck finding ways to piece together what is left.

I'm glad you're a fan of my work though.

 

[Too_Funny]

I would take Revis over any one cornerback that we have on our roster. However, I wouldn't take him or the Jets' secondary as a whole over the secondary we have right now. Sure, you can have Revis. When you pay him $20M a year, best of luck finding ways to piece together what is left.

I'm glad you're a fan of my work though.

You guys must have been asleep today.

Revis came out and said that was a complete farce.

Rumor milling by Michael Lombardi, who may be one of the biggest jokes in the business trying to fill in Schefter's shoes at the moment.

The Jets put in an offer to Revis. We'll see what happens.

And based off the Jets giving up 8 TD's all season last year you can have it one of two ways...

Either Rex is a better coach than Belichick or our secondary is superior.

Or you could go the crazy route and praise Strickland, Sheppard and Rhodes for the secondaries success...

Your move.