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Old 06-05-2009, 10:07 PM   #11
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And when he does that he gets run out of town by fans for removing the most important player on the team...even Ainge has scruples and trading Pierce will only cause harm than good for the team.
He's not going to be run out of town. Paul Pierce will have his number retired on the rafters and will be near the top of the all time scorers in Celtic history. But he will never, ever, be in the same category as other Celtic legends regardless of how many points he scores.
Ainge has already brought one title to Boston and is a great judge for talent. He will pull the trigger regardless of the player if it will improve the team. Heck, he lobbied Red to trade his very good friend (McHale) while he still had trade value.
Pierce is a great player, one who still has trade value and DA is a cold blooded GM who the fans will come to respect more then one of their aging stars.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:20 PM   #12
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He's not going to be run out of town. Paul Pierce will have his number retired on the rafters and will be near the top of the all time scorers in Celtic history. But he will never, ever, be in the same category as other Celtic legends regardless of how many points he scores.
Ainge has already brought one title to Boston and is a great judge for talent. He will pull the trigger regardless of the player if it will improve the team. Heck, he lobbied Red to trade his very good friend (McHale) while he still had trade value.
Pierce is a great player, one who still has trade value and DA is a cold blooded GM who the fans will come to respect more then one of their aging stars.
I can respect that but I don't believe he will actually pull the trigger on a Pierce trade unless it is a once in a lifetime take it or leave it offer that not only improves the team, it puts them in a driver's seat for championships for years to come.

I don't see how removing Pierce without a major change in the Celtics' offensive and defensive schemes would improve them on any level anytime soon...it would take nothing short of Doc being fired and a new, dramatically different coach coming in to do that.

And even then I don't think the owners would want to see their major marquee name gone, not without someone who can be the poster child for the team for another decade and bring in millions more in revenue to the team.
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Old 06-05-2009, 10:20 PM   #13
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I saw something from Paul Pierce the last 2 games that I thought I would never see. Pierce was passing off and not looking for contact. I think Pierce's future with the Celtics or with another team is as a #2. Just my opinion ... I think Pierce has given us everything he had and more. the rest of his career IMO he will have to be a passer and shooter as his body has taken a beating ... and then some for our team. How can Allen and Pierce share a position tying up all that cap space for basically 1 player ... I don't see it happening but Danny will figure it out.
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There is absolutely ZERO chance that the Celtics sign Pierce to a 5 year deal, till he's 38. The only way that happens if it's for MLE type money, which I highly doubt Pierce would take. Pierce is on the back end, of the back nine. He's 32/33 years old, where perimeter players quickly begin their decline. If PP understands that his best days are behind him, and in order for him to stay long term, he's got to be paid less, then he'll be here. If he thinks he's still on top, and wants max money for too many years, he'll be gone. In today's NBA, signing max, or big money deals to declining players, will kill your franchise. A good GM will make the difficult decision on not overpaying for marginal production, so as to prevent a handcuff of the teams salary cap. It's the same reason why DA won't resign Big Baby, when some team offers him their MLE. As he shouldn't.
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If Ainge is anything like Belichik and has the longterm goal of being competitive, then he will trade at least one of them while they still have value.

My gut tells me the celtics are going to repeat history: let the big 3 get old and start over from scratch. ugg
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everyone but PP, he retires a Jayhawk.. ROCKCHALK
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